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  1. 6 points
    ok, so bmd has had its moment out in the sun again and a couple of more threads have been started, you'll either buy one or you wont . Now cam we get back to the important business at hand ? like creating content and judging said content 😉
  2. 4 points
    @Skip77 "Sucks for P4K owners" Why exactly? This is a complementary camera for the P4K, not a replacement. In many ways, the P4K is *better* than the P6K. Here are just a few of the ways the P4K is better than the P6K: The P6K files are more than *double* the size of the P4K files. The P6K is 323 MB/s vs. the P4K at 135 MB/s (at highest recording rates) Many people have trouble with their computers and workflow editing 4K footage. 6K footage is going to crush their dreams The P6K can not record 4K or DCI 4K footage in BRAW, only ProRes. The P4K + Speed booster gives you an extra stop of light and a field of view wider than Super35. The P6K field of view (crop) is less than Super35, despite Blackmagic calling it a "Super35" sensor. The P6K has a diagonal crop of 1.63 vs. 1.39 for Super35 relative to a 36mm x 24mm "full frame" sensor. Based on sensor width, the P6K is 23.10mm vs. 24.89mm for Super35, so the crop based on width is P6K: 1.56 vs. Super35: 1.45. So, based on width, the P6K is close to Super35 size. The P4K + 0.71x Speed booster has a width based crop factor of 1.35, wider than Super35. I will be researching this next week, but I suspect that the P4K + Speed booster will do better in low light than the P6K. Cost: The P4K costs $1295, the P6K costs $2495. The P4K has a better lens selection because most lenses can be adapted to the Micro 4/3 mount used by the P4K, including the EF lenses used on the P6K. I have a P6K that will arrive tomorrow. I have no intention of replacing all of my P4Ks with P6Ks, even though I could easily do so. They will work together and make an excellent team as they should cut perfectly together with each other.
  3. 2 points
    And Ignorance is beautiful. Or it isn't.
  4. 2 points
    It’s a step down for your wallet, that’s indisputable. I would absolutely dispute any claim that it’s an objectively better camera. Both cameras are EXTREMELY similar. There are subjective reasons that someone might prefer either camera. The question potential buyers will be asking is, “are those subjective reasons important enough to me to justify the higher price tag?” For me, it is definitely not. If I want a camera compatible with EF full-frame image circle lenses, I’ll just get a cine speedbooster for the P4K. It really is that simple from my perspective. I actually see the 6K as little more than a spec sheet bragging number. Seriously, for almost all practical work (that I do), 4K is more than enough. Anything more just means bigger files. If you do work that simply MUST have 6K Raw, by all means, nobody is stopping you. Get the P6K. The difference between APSC and Micro 4/3 is honestly pretty negligible. Any claims of it having less noise or better dynamic range due to its sensor are COMPLETE and utter conjecture. I’ll believe it when I see real tests, and according to all the press per BM, the DR is exactly the same. It is 2019. The concept that 6K APSC versus 4K M4/3 is a HUGE deal radical difference (all else being equal) is honestly not only laughable, but potentially bad consumer advice. They’re just different, and both are a steal compared to anything else in the market. I guess I should apologize for voicing my honest opinion on the pros/cons of these two cameras. I didn’t realize this was supposed to be the blind circle-jerk thread.
  5. 2 points
    androidlad

    Speedbooster for BMPC6K

    It's purely just glass elements inserted into the mount, designed to work with FF EF lenses.
  6. 2 points
    mercer

    Speedbooster for BMPC6K

    • A 24mm lens on the P6K... with adapted/native lens = 37mm with the speedbooster = 27mm • A 24mm lens on the P4K... with adapted/native lens = 45mm with .71x speedbooster = 32mm with .64x speedbooster = 29mm But the beauty of the P6K is that you don’t need a speedbooster because it is already S35. I would just spend the money on a fast native prime or an f/2.8 zoom and be happy.
  7. 2 points
    Well, I'm not sure its that depressing considering this is the view from its front door Yes, people live in them but this particular one was a "have a look inside my cave as I'm renovating it and give me a euro to help me with it" place. Lovely cool natural temperature in there considering it was 39C outside. If you ever find yourself in Granada, you can try one out as there are plenty on AirBnB to choose from in the same area with slightly more brighter interiors ! https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/31094926?location=Granada%2C Spain&toddlers=0&adults=2&check_in=2019-11-06&check_out=2019-11-08&source_impression_id=p3_1565545654_LYpFx%2B%2BPbPCOHpGy&s=eXoImwQB
  8. 2 points
    DBounce

    Post Your Smartphone Homescreen

    Well that's one of them. Currently using the Note 8. I don't have the iPhone handy. Just preordered the Note 10 Plus 5G... but that's not arriving until the 23rd.
  9. 2 points
    When we talk crop factor, what we are all really wanting to know is FOV. What is X lens going to “see” on Y camera/sensor. One complicator is that there is both a horizontal and vertical FOV. So in the case of the full 6K 16:9 vs the 6K 2.4:1, the horizontal fov remains the same but the vertical fov is less in 2.4:1. The reason why the crop factor is considered smaller is because they use the diagonal measurement from corner to corner, which is slightly more in 16:9 than 2.4:1, even though the horizontal fov remains identical. Now, anamorphic adds another complicator altogether. It stretches the horizontal fov but leaves the vertical the same. The math for this is relatively simple, but since I don’t do it all the time it melts my aging brain. Now again, the root of all this crop factor talk is, fov... what will this lens/camera combo deliver. The reason we use crop factor is because it is always good to have a standard, a canon if you will, to compare apples to apples. In our case we use FF 35mm as the standard, and derive a crop factor from there. Even though I’m all for this since I’ve been doing it for years, it is odd since the standard for cinematographers for decades was s35, not FF 35mm or vista vision or whatevs. But clearly we are moving in the direction of FF so I guess it worked out. BOTTOMLINE I would only pay attention to the horizontal fov numbers/crop since this is what everyone is intuitively looking at anyway. (And then just assume the vertical fov will be relative to the aspect ratio.) Here’s the simple math for a few popular cams: (btw, the width of FF is 36mm) P6K width is 23.10. So 36/23.1 = 1.558 (can we call it 1.56?) P4K width is 18.96 so 36/18.96 = 1.89 URSA Mini Pro width is 25.34, so 36/25.34 = 1.42 Alexa Mini width is 23.8, so 36/23.8 = 1.51 XT3 - 23.5, 36/23.5 = 1.53 GH5 17.3, 36/17.3 = 2.08 For anamorphic I would first calculate the width based on the pixels. So P6K uses 3728 res for anamorphic. This is about 60.68% of the sensor so we’ll call it 14.02mm. Then you have to multiply by the anamorphic ratio you’re using - 2.0 or 1.3 for this cam. So 28.04 and 18.23 respectively. Therefore P6K anamorphic horizontal fov crop factors are In 2.0, 36/28.04 = 1.28 In 1.3, 36/18.23 = 1.97
  10. 2 points
    I suggest you carefully read my post again - many of your points are arguments against points I didn't make, but you obviously thought that I did. Also, I'm aware that GH5 files aren't 6K RAW, but the logic you're failing to recognise is that a 4K crop is to 6K the same that a 150% crop of 4K is to straight 4K. The argument goes that if you're outputting 4K and are going to crop in by 150% then you need 6K, but what the logic fails to recognise is that you can scale 4K by the same amount and if you add a small amount of sharpening then it's practically indistinguishable from the straight 4K file. Therefore the argument that 6K is required for reframing and keeping similar image quality doesn't really stack up. It's funny when discussing things like this - you and @thephoenix both went to the extreme and then criticised that. That is called a 'straw-man' argument, and although neither of you did it explicitly, you both reacted like I had said things I didn't actually say. Let's examine the title of this thread and break it down: "6K RAW is over-rated. Here's why..." 6K RAW I'm not really talking about compressed 6K. If you're delivering 4K it will likely be compressed. If you're shooting compressed 4K then grading it and then re-compressing it to deliver codec then that's a lot of damage to the image. If you're shooting 4K RAW then you're already miles ahead of compressed 4K. 6K RAW is miles ahead of that and yet apparently it's "argue on the internet" levels of critical, despite that 4K RAW is already miles above the compressed 4K files that the world is awash in. overrated This is a key point - I'm not saying it's useless, I'm saying that it's overrated. To break this down further, I'm saying that there's a rating of some kind (in the direction of shiny-thing mania), and that that level of rating is above what rating it should have. Not that it should be zero, just that it should be below what is has. Here's why This is where the arguments live, and I don't mean people fighting, I mean rational points designed to explore and explain thinking. In terms of context, yes, it depends on what you're shooting and what it's for, but if I was a betting man I'd bet a serious amount of money that you're not delivering anything in 6K and couldn't tell a 2.5K crop upscaled to 4K from a 4K source in a blind test.
  11. 1 point
    OK, so I'm not massively keen to get too involved in this at all while I've got so much other stuff going on but..... Just having a look at this with my GX80 and you can forget the 709Like colour profile but something is going on with that higher bitrate command switching it into the extended mode. I thought that people had exhausted all of the permutations but if you do use that FZ2000 command that puts it into the editable formats mode ([MP4 (LPCM)] as Panasonic refer to it) then something does happen on the GX80. Namely, it displays the codec on the rear screen as being FHD50P but as AVCHD rather than MP4. It also blanks out the other recording options in the menu (though it does display it at 28Mbps) until you switch to and from MP4 and when you try and record then sometimes it will and sometimes it won't or stops quite quickly. If it does record properly though, it puts the file in the AVCHD collection file. For the GX80, I don't think this is a rabbit hole that is particularly worth going too deeply down (and I certainly won't be) but for anyone who does want to then you may (though probably may not) find something using a combination of http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=videoformat&value=mp4ed to place it into what would be the MP4 LPCM mode and then using variations on this command http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=videoquality&value=mov_50p_100mbps changing the value of "mov_50p_100mbps" for those of different formats extracted from previous capture sessions of the GH5 etc on previous pages. If your menus for the formats disappear then you can get back to them with a "safe" command of a valid format by sending this : http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=videoquality&value=mp4_24p_100mbps_4k As I say, I don't think there is much mileage for the GX80 so its not something I'm going to be spending any time on myself but based on the change of sensor in the GX9 offering newer possibilities then I definitely think that anyone with an LX100 Mark 2 might well benefit from a bit of digging with this.
  12. 1 point
    No, A larger sensor doesn't give you better low light performance... but I don't think its worth arguing with you. And untrue: I don't think P6K is a step down. If I didn't already have a camera, it might be the one I would choose
  13. 1 point
    WOW! 😮 gorgeous omg. actually i only want to live in remote areas from now on, and im moving from my current mtn to a snowier, crappier, more remote one 500 miles away THEn im going to transition to miles of property when im rich (a sq mile is 640 acres btw) so im REALLY isolated then ill be happy. with my wifi
  14. 1 point
    This is incorrect. A larger sensor doesn't mean better low light. There is no such thing as the full frame look.
  15. 1 point
    You can always tell who lives in a bubble and who doesn't by threads like this. Most people I know don't even have room for an 85 inch TV. The vast majority of people will never own a television that can benefit from 8k. Hell, I don't know that most will ever own a TV that displays the benefits of 4K.
  16. 1 point
    Explanation: Bolt this to a P4K cage: https://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB_SPEF-m43-BTB Fullframe EF Cine Mount camera. Better than a normal EF mount. End of story. It just is. The LucAdapter will be the closest thing for the P6K by making it fullframe, but it still doesn’t give you a locking cinema mount. You’re stuck with the bog-standard EF mount on that camera thanks to BlackMagic.
  17. 1 point
    My friend, it took you one year after I started this beautiful thread to ask me that question. I love the idea of 3ccd 10bit raw with a beautiful stabilized zoom lens and the classic ergos of this camera. So, cannot wait to see what shortfilms @tktagmedia is gonna shoot with it. I already loved the SD DV cam DX1 from Panny, 3 ccd beauty in colors but interlaced and DV compression. So call me anyone.:) No, Cine, you and me are already two, if I may suggest, that´s what you are talking about.:) the dvx is fully capable of 24p output. Never had one, but that´s what this cam was famous for back then. David Lynch shot Inland Empire with it I think. Now, render that beautiful footage of yours, please.:) You got the only legit digital super8 camera in your hands!
  18. 1 point
    @Skip77 If you want to read my specific case you can read here M43 has advantages. Dual ISO and bigger photons improve greatly the low light capabilities. "There are just so many options with the 4K, I have a lens regain (X0.75), I can get the no-glass Viltrox (X1.9) for dead cheap, and maybe the P4K Speedbooster (X0.64) just to be safe for my wider primes. 1 lens almost 3 different lenses! Also, consider skipping the 6K resolution altogether, there will be a lot of 8K options in a year..better save the extra 1400€ for then.." I just bought 2 lavalier microphones and their accessories for 2000€, accusing people that are "too cheap" for this camera is a very silly argument. We shoot tv shows with GH5 cameras and the Oly 12-100mm by the way. M43 is great and alive.
  19. 1 point
    PannySVHS

    Speedbooster for BMPC6K

    S35 + Lucas Speedbooster would make the 6k a "full frame" cine camera.:)
  20. 1 point
    androidlad

    Speedbooster for BMPC6K

    699EUR No relevance.
  21. 1 point
    BTM_Pix

    Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K

    I have had a whisper that it will be launched at ¥300,000 in a bundle with the 24-70mm f2.8 Art and ¥180,000 body only. Which would be $2850/$1700 as a straight conversion but I don't know how much additional it amounts to when it reaches your shores. Looking at the price of a 24-70mm f2.8 Art at Yodabashi or Bic Camera and converting to dollars its pretty much the same as B&H though.
  22. 1 point
    The spectacular ones usually have humidity issues. Very difficult to shoot for a long period of time also. I have met this guy in Edinburgh festival. He became ultra successful later on. Great low budget cave film, I believe most of it is on a studio. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/
  23. 1 point
    deezid

    Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K

    I mean by using a higher resolution the Braw induced issues are basically irrelevant now. The image has lots of texture, low freq detail, no visible sharpening, fine grain etc. after the image has been downscaled to 4K. Am pretty happy about it.
  24. 1 point
  25. 1 point
    Geoff CB

    Post Your Smartphone Homescreen

    My wife doing a hairflip
  26. 1 point
    I'm editing CRM on a mid-2014 MBP (16GB ram, i7). I don't know about multi-cam, but I can edit the CRM files natively within FCPX without any LUTS applied. As soon as I apply any LUTS, or colour correction, the whole thing falls apart. It's not a massive issue though, just create proxy files and you should have no problem.
  27. 1 point
    heart0less

    Post Your Smartphone Homescreen

    A window. A train window, to be exact. 😂 Just a simple Android, without any bells and whistles. I'm a huge fan of keeping it clear and simple. And hey - you keep posting LOCKscreens instead of HOMEscreens you requested. ( :
  28. 1 point
    kaylee

    Post Your Smartphone Homescreen

    REALLY nice. wtf is this... windows?? :o this is fucking core edit: wait a fkn min @fuzzy, thats CHEATING ITS NOT AUGUST 1ST BRO STOP BEING A POSER/TRYHARD THIS IS MY ADVICE 2 U
  29. 1 point
  30. 1 point
    hmm, you could buy 33 bmp4k's @ $1800 australian for 59400 but you probably want to only get 30 and have some change for memory cards and a couple of rig solutions and a tripod perhaps
  31. 1 point
    Leica50mm

    6K RAW is over-rated. Here's why...

    You don’t know what you are talking about until you have seen 8K monstro FF downscaled to 2 K ProRes .
  32. 1 point
    Sage

    GH5 to Alexa Conversion

    Granted everything's set up for monitoring in HLG, and you want to deliver in that format, that would be the base. It would be used following the LogC variation (just as one would with ordinary LogC). The timeline would be set to work in HLG, so that the grading tools operate contoured to HLG
  33. 1 point
    leslie

    Lenses

    maybe us owners should start a thread here on the forum for it ? At least then members wouldn't have to go far to get info or an opinion on it
  34. 1 point
    The guru of FD to EF conversions appears to be Eddie Houston. You'll pay, but the quality is reckoned to really good, and I understand he was a Canon engineer back in the day. http://thelensdoctor.co.uk/page5.html
  35. 1 point
    just in time to punch all the a7r4 and a6400 buyers in the dick. that's so Sony.
  36. 1 point
    mercer

    Lenses

    RMC Tokina 17mm f/3.5?
  37. 1 point
    MeanRevert

    Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K

    Thanks for the summary. I hope BM is able to fix any outstanding P4K bugs as well.
  38. 1 point
    Anaconda_

    Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K

    @mercer Here's everything Grant mentioned regarding the P4K update v6.6 expected 'in a month or two'. 1. Many more HUD languages 2. One screen level, using built in gyrochip. 3. Gimbal support to allow start stop and focus on popular gimbals. (No mention of what those are) 4. 4k 2.4:1 - s16 - 1.33x anamorphic desqueeze & 16x9 preview - 4:3 anamorphic 2x desqueeze preview 5. Hopefully a few other little surprises
  39. 1 point
    Oops, you are right about the crop. I was thinking the M4/3 crop as 2, not the crop factor of 1.9 from the P4K (based on relative sensor width). Super35 is normally a 1.39 crop, not the APS-C size of 1.5-1.6, so the P4K with a speedbooster is 1.9x0.71 = 1.349 is slightly wider than Super35 and the 0.64x booster is even wider. As to image quality, I am very curious about this as well. I am going to be comparing the P6K vs. the P4K with my 0.71x speedbooster next week. I suspect that there will be little to no difference. I also think that the P4K + booster will be better in low light. I can't imagine that the P6K is one stop better than the P4K, given that the P6K has smaller photosites. If BM had used a "true" Super35 sized sensor (~1.39 crop), then maybe the P6K would be >=, but they used an APS-C sized sensor (which they are calling Super35...)
  40. 1 point
    Yeah, I was careful not to add the "but you probably wouldn't want to" so that I could retain the technical win
  41. 1 point
    all ISO400 ======FHD50P28mbps.MP4======= FHD50P28mbps.MP4 ======FHD50PLACP100mbps.MP4======= FHD50PLACP100mbps.MP4 ======HLG50P.MTS======= HLG50P.MTS
  42. 1 point
    It still useful for stabilising in post
  43. 1 point
    mercer

    Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K

    Anyway, I just watched some of the P6K videos and they look pretty good. The wedding video looks great. Of course, with the data rates, I don’t know if this camera is the best option for a wedding, but for a fake, promo wedding... I do...
  44. 1 point
    Well can we just stay in one topic or merge those two ? My dear admins ? 😃
  45. 1 point
    Sample footage is coming soon, along with photos of my set up, I promise! Just been busy with my day job and life in general as of late. Anyone else out there with Andromedas still have any old footage laying around? I found this short that was made using the mod here:
  46. 1 point
    Mattias Burling

    Lenses

    A shadow is always the color opposite of the light on the color wheel. Late in the day when the sunlight is orange the shadow is blue. That's not a grade, it's real life determined by the laws of physics.
  47. 1 point
    Almost all ENG cameras, even today, use a Monochrome eyepiece. It just has more distinction than Color does. Way easier to focus.
  48. 1 point
  49. 1 point
    Thought others here might find this interesting, although it was shot in NZ.... it was actually done a long way away from myself! Down in NZ's South Island.
  50. -1 points
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