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    • I’m gonna add this opinion: i dont like any of the of the stock r709 profiles or luts from any cameras, including arris.   so what’s the best sooc looking camera? None of them imo. I almost always shoot with a custom LUT because of that.
    • Many cameras have baked in LUTs.    I’d scoop a Nikon in z6 size with z8 sensor!    I’m not buying anything lol   I think this is the best critique of my post. It’s wild how heated anonymous strangers can get lol.    so let’s say scenario wise:   1. you’re vacationing with your significant other and want to get as close to “film” look with minimal effort. What camera are you taking? a. Budget $4k for a body  2. you have a mini doc for run and gun - turn around time is short. What camera brings you closest to the image you like without much grading?    a. Budget $4k for body b. Budget $10k for body  3. you have time and want to shoot a big doc or narrative - time isn’t an issue, what camera do you take -  a  budget - $5k b  budget - $10k again thanks for asking an awesome clarifying question! 🙋‍♂️ 
    • Yeah I heard the original question, and I think that while the posts diving into complex grading are fascinating and useful to those of us who do post, I know that getting good color SOOC is a separate question. One big point about your question is that it doesn't break down by manufacturer. Not all REDs look the same, not all Sonys look the same, etc. I think the Sony FX6 looks fine, but I dislike the FS7. Also, most cameras have different profiles. Sometimes, there is greater  difference between profiles on the same camera, than between normal/natural/standard/default/whatever profiles on many different cameras. And even within a profile, you'll have totally different results based on how many controls you leave on auto (such as WB) and your lens. SOOC and minimal grading are completely different. SOOC excludes log profiles, for one thing. There is budget as well. Best SOOC ever? Alexa 35, probably. Under $10k? C500mkII gets my vote. Under $2k? Nikon Z6 is solid. Are you including lenses in your budget? I like the color out of my Canon L 24-105 better than that of my Canon 50 1.8 (tested on Sony A7rII). Though I have also used terrible lenses for specific scenes, specifically to make them less appealing. If you want a specific answer or even a specific discussion, ask a more specific question because your original question is extremely open ended--which is fine to start with! But it's probably more useful and interesting to narrow the parameters a bit.
    • For my own stuff, I prefer it to be as 'faithful as possible' to the original scene, within the limits of the tools I've got and the amount of time I'm prepared to spend fiddling with it. I don't care what someone else wants to categorise that as, but I suspect it would come under your 'video' category. Personally the parts of the production process I find most interesting are being out-and-about recording the content, the basic editing (the clip choice, 'flow' and the cutting) and getting the best out of the ambient sound. Adjusting the image doesn't usually get much more advanced for me than brightness, contrast, saturation and sharpness, unless there's a clip that's particularly 'off' what I think it should look like in the lighting conditions at the time. But I'm perfectly happy respecting and enjoying other peoples artistic choices, including abstract art (which is inherently non-realistic). But nobody likes every piece of art they view...
    • In these images there seems to be the possibility of getting nearly identical color, though I'm not versed in grading - but it seems that these 4 different comparisons show SOOC images to be different enough for many to have a preference.  Again, that was the original question:  what camera do you choose when you don't want to grade much and get close to your preferred look with minimal effort. Some of the banter here has pushed me, personally, to the notion that I prefer the look of Canon images given the same lighting situation over Sony but the compact Sony bodies, lens options, etc. make them a better buy for the SOOC-esque scenario.  May have to wait to see what Canon announces in May. Wrapping up - just heard someone say the C70 looks great even with not the best lighting but the R5 does not.  I also prefer the look of Red cameras from what i've seen than much of the Arri (skin tones in particular).
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