John Matthews

Apple did that on the iPhone so you'd fill up your free iCloud limit 8 times faster. Then, they send you a message that basically says you'll lose everything if you don't buy more iCloud space. There is a way to turn it off though. Personally, I stopped taking photos with phones other than just practical things.

Well, I guess it's too late to get the ILS- sold out everywhere it seems! Who saw that coming? Some interesting comparisons with WAY bigger and more expensive cameras are out there now. Obviously YouTube footage. I wish he'd don it in 4k 24fps or 8k 24fps. To my eye, the GoPro is heavily dependent on lens. The Sony looks super digital to me, but maybe it's the fact it's at 60fps. Is it possible that the GoPro takes off some of that ultra digital look but leaves the detail? Maybe it's simply a sensor size thing?

The 4k 100fps is just crazy detailed and lots of latitude IMO (given it's an action cam). I've been experimenting by taking short bursts of 5s and finding just the right moment, focus, FOV. I wonder if others shoot like this. It works fairly well as a substitute for having to take actual photos. I know it's not a real photo camera, but it works great in a pinch and with some interesting features.

With the ILS, it's recommended to shoot at 1/200s or higher with a lens above 12mm (from what I hear). After, if you're bothered by the lack of blur, you can add it in post. At 12mm or wider, you can just follow the standard 180 degree shutter rule. Regarding the GX800 and the ILS, they are different beasts, with the ILS producing far superior detail in RAW (from a 50MP) sensor as long as the SS is high enough and provided you actually nail focus. Lumix lenses are usually sharper too but usually not faster when it comes to lenses with OIS; the exception being the Leica and Lumix 42.5mm's. So, that higher shutter can be made up for with faster manual focus glass. There are other shortcomings with the GX800- not great 1080p, 4k for only 5 minutes (sometimes 2 and unpredictable), and disastrous audio. The colors are amazing in the GX800 though with way better customization for that. The G100D might be a more fair comparison to the ILS. It does offer a lot too (EVF, fllip out screen). However, the readout on the sensor makes it very limited IMO and the EIS-only is unusable in 4K... decent audio though. Still, that camera is far bigger and I think that's what the ILS is all about.

I'm sure IBIS will do better. However, when I look at the footage up to 50mm, it looks decent if you have the right SS. You have to remember I'm replacing a GX800 (2017 tech). The ILS isn't really in the same league in terms of capabilities (especially audio and slow motion). Both cameras are better when using a tripod of any kind. The GX800 didn't have any IS other than optical in the lens and the video (even 4k) was more susceptible to moiré and aliasing. The ILS is effectively lighter with way better IS than the GX800- that's why I'd get it. I do like the Flip-up screen on the GX800, something I wish the S9 would have. Here are some thoughts from someone who actually purchased the camera like me:

Does anyone have experience with Gyroflow? I'm not certain, but I think you might need to shoot with the intention of using it as SS needs to be upped a little.

So, I haven't had any issues with SanDisk Extreme V30 A2 cards. In fact, it's the one they recommend and sell with the ILS. I have noticed that I need to erase the card anytime I want to upgrade the Labs firmware with Mac OS, due to the DSstore hidden files.

I installed firmware 4 for the ILS. For photos, it's night and day- so much easier to use and far more responsive- almost like a real camera! This is going to be super fun I suspect. Now, we've got 50MP RAW or JPEGs and up to 20 at a time with no lockup.

Yes. I saw your video on YouTube. We've got pretty much the same lenses, minus the 10mm fisheye and the 50mm. Today, there was new firmware (version 4). Also, I installed Labs; so, I'm curious to see the improvements, especially for photos as it was seriously lacking.

Went for a walk this morning. I was able to make a short video: Sorry for the music. Everything is hand-held. Shot it at various frame rates. Most everthing shot in GoPro Log 2 (the slow-mo shots are in Natural) and plopped into a timeline for cutting and added FilmConvert with the GoPro Mission 1 Pro and GoPro Log 2 profile. No grain was applied. Anyway, you'll get an idea of the colors, electronic stab, etc. I also wanted to say that I was able to update the ILS to the GoPro Labs firmware and use a QR code for putting a super-helpful histogram (better than the Lumix one on the GX800).

A few more thoughts on the ILS... Here's a 4k shot of my balcony solar panels. I really thought I could make some moiré with this. Not the case, at least not in the 4:3 4k mode. Everything is hand-held with the E-stab on. For DR in GoPro Log2, it seems to be living up to their claims 14 stops. When it does clip, this is what it looks like: Personally, I can live with this. I have a FilmConvert Hazy plugin to smoothen out some of that harshness on the clouds: This was all done rather quickly and could have been better, I'm sure. Here, I cranked up the shadows just to see what it would look like. I might run it up against my S9 just because I'm curious.

Damn. After playing with the 7artisan 10mm, this camera looks so good. The electronic IBIS is working wonderfully and you don't hear any audio weirdness like with normal IBIS sometimes. The colors when you put the Log into FilmConvert are great IMO. About the 10mm, it's not perfect. For starters, there was quite a bit of play in the mount. I fixed it with a little electrical tape. However, it's super easy to focus and quite fun. The image seems quite sharp too.

Here's what Mathieu Stern had to say about his experience:

Well, for rigging it, maybe. The camera is just so small and the mount isn't supposed to have more than a 250g lens on it. Those Meike lenses are 540g at a minimum. And just to clarify, I really don't see the ILS as a photo-first camera, unless you're taking 8k screen grabs. The interface sucks for the most part too with only 2 physical buttons and a tiny LCD (albeit decent). You don't even get a histogram out of the box- they need to fix that.

Yes. I had already seen that fotodiox video. Those lenses have had issue with softness in the past, but maybe someone solved the design. In addition, you've got the moon involved which only adds to the softness and atmosphere. I would assume the ILS does great under 200mm.