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Damn. After playing with the 7artisan 10mm, this camera looks so good. The electronic IBIS is working wonderfully and you don't hear any audio weirdness like with normal IBIS sometimes. The colors when you put the Log into FilmConvert are great IMO. About the 10mm, it's not perfect. For starters, there was quite a bit of play in the mount. I fixed it with a little electrical tape. However, it's super easy to focus and quite fun. The image seems quite sharp too.

I'm at a point where I ALMOST see no point in shooting log profiles. There are a few good ones, but most require more grading after a utility LUT is applied and/or creates scenarios where everybody's footage looks pretty much exactly the same. So if you're just slapping on a LUT and calling it a day, for 9 out of 10 shots, you could just use a standard rec709 picture profile and get similar results. With the advent of 10bit video, in recent years, most standard picture profiles look even better than they ever have with thicker color and near perfect skintones. Sure there are instances when you may need the extra stop or two of dynamic range a Log profile offers, or a specific LUT gets you a relatively quick look by shooting Log, but again... 9 out of 10 times, a slightly tweaked Rec709 picture profile will end up looking better and get you there so much easier without worrying about CSTs and color pipelines... especially since damn near ever Log profile is just trying to emulate Arri LogC which in turn was designed to emulate film. Speaking of, I have the Arri LogC3 software key on my GH6 and it's pretty good... better than vLog but it's still noisy as hell with ugly chroma noise in the midtones and shadows so I recently went back to CineLikeD and V and I am back to making a couple contrast and saturation adjustments and being happy with it. I'm sure there is a slight hit in DR, but nothing so drastic that I'm surprised or wish I shot in Log instead. So Log is cool, I'm glad it's available, but it's fairly unnecessary in most situations and can cause a bigger headache.

I also get where you are coming from and that is why I bake the LUT into my footage. I set up all my cameras with 3 basic profiles based on ISO and WB for outdoor, indoor and low-lowlight scenarios. I say LUT, but there are actually 2x LUTS stacked; the conversion LUT and then my own custom ‘Look LUT’ which can be dialled in anywhere between 10-100%. It gets the look I want SOOC and it’s as unique to me as these things can be, is easy in the workflow and allows me to concentrate more on the interesting side of editing a film rather than the boring to me, more logistical grading. Only really works if no one else has a say in the end result and I’m fortunate that I’m my work, the grade is 100% my call.

Went for a walk this morning. I was able to make a short video: Sorry for the music. Everything is hand-held. Shot it at various frame rates. Most everthing shot in GoPro Log 2 (the slow-mo shots are in Natural) and plopped into a timeline for cutting and added FilmConvert with the GoPro Mission 1 Pro and GoPro Log 2 profile. No grain was applied. Anyway, you'll get an idea of the colors, electronic stab, etc. I also wanted to say that I was able to update the ILS to the GoPro Labs firmware and use a QR code for putting a super-helpful histogram (better than the Lumix one on the GX800).

Hi, I'm the author of the "Sanity" patch for the GH2. I just uploaded the last version to my Google drive, if anybody is interested in using it. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/157bZ_DRA0FzA-7QUWG3lXwQmfoTEtXQl?usp=sharing Here's a little background on why I developed it. When Vitaliy unlocked the GH2, there was a gold rush to create patches with very high bitrates. While the image quality looked great, those patches were terribly inefficient. I took it upon myself to create a patch that had the same top image quality, but at more "sane" bitrates. I can say with confidence that I succeeded, because I pixel peeped and compared the image frame by frame to the uncompressed output from the HDMI port. This way I had an absolute reference to shoot for. That was a long time ago, and I have long since sold my GH2. If anybody actually uses "Sanity", I would love to hear about it, just for old time sake!

Very cool! I'm so glad you are keeping this thread alive. One of my first interchangeable lens cameras was the eos-m and I loved that camera. The last time I used it, almost 10 years ago, was when I tested Magic Lanter on it... I did test the raw but it was pretty abysmal back then... so I was more interested in the bitrate bump. Shortly afterwards, my camera path led me through BM and into my 5D iii, so the the eos-m just sat in the closet for years. A couple years ago I was thinking I'd take it out and mess with it again. Hadn't really thought about using it in years, so I grabbed it from the closet, charged one of my old batteries and pushed the on button... and nothing. I just figured it died... so back into the closet it went. I recently realized it may need a card with ML boot flag (or whatever it's called) on it. I ordered some new batteries and I'm going to figure out which cards are good for the new builds and cross my fingers. Anyway @QuickHitRecord thanks again for keeping this topic alive. No disrespect to the other forum members, but basic camera chat about new releases is fun and all, but the reason I started posting on EOS HD was because of posts like this.

I think only in the FB page. Here was the introductory post: I've tried it and it impressed me enough to use as the basis for my own build. This is moving fast though. Someone has already remixed the build I posted earlier today.

@mercerits trendy to be a lemming 🙄. And that’s what a lot of personalities on YouTube are doing and once someone enters with non NPC thoughts and actions, you’re berated. That’s what stopped me from posting things on YouTube and social media in general, but I’m getting older and I have worthwhile years in the industry. I sure as heck can voice my thoughts and opinions and shouldn’t give a rats a$$ about what people say.

I don't know if it's overbearing as much as it's an exercise in futility for at least 60-70% of the shots. But my biggest issue is that the utility LUTs just make everybody's footage look the same. Now I don't necessarily mean anyone on this site, but if you go on YT and watch 90% of the reviewers, their footage all looks the same and a majority of those guys have their own businesses separate from their YT channel. So to eek out an extra stop or maybe two, depending on the shot, let's shoot Log, slap a LUT on there and call it a day... or do a CST... now it's like I shot with an Alexa... and call it a day. That just doesn't really interest me anymore. I'd rather have DR limitations I'm forced to work around and get more interesting images. Just a thought I've been wrestling with. It's not like I'll never shoot in Log, I'm just opening up other options and exploring different color profiles now there's 10bit video in almost any camera.

This is exactly why smartphones and smaller cameras like the GoPro Mission 1 Pro ILS are so appealing to me. You can move quickly, stay discreet, and still capture great images. I put together a great nimble kit for this project and I’m actually planning something similar with the ILS in NYC, grabbing shots in some premium locations to give the production a much bigger feel without a big crew or footprint. And I’m definitely grabbing some long and discreet shots.

It’s a real fun camera to use. It actually brought my muscle memory back to the days of manual focusing. I remember when people used to talk condescendingly to people who relied on autofocus. Now it’s flipped. So funny. The negative comments I read about using this camera is mind boggling. If the camera isn’t for you, just go about your business. Why try to bash the person wanting to experience something different?

Love your insights, you should post more :- )

A few more thoughts on the ILS... Here's a 4k shot of my balcony solar panels. I really thought I could make some moiré with this. Not the case, at least not in the 4:3 4k mode. Everything is hand-held with the E-stab on. For DR in GoPro Log2, it seems to be living up to their claims 14 stops. When it does clip, this is what it looks like: Personally, I can live with this. I have a FilmConvert Hazy plugin to smoothen out some of that harshness on the clouds: This was all done rather quickly and could have been better, I'm sure. Here, I cranked up the shadows just to see what it would look like. I might run it up against my S9 just because I'm curious.

I respect that choice. But I'm also not going to post every build that's offered. Maybe if I see another that catches my eye. Currently working on a new idea: FILM MODE gives you all of the film presets in some or all of 4:3, 16:9, 1.85:1, and 2.35:1, puts shutter angle on the shooting screen, and offers 23.98 and 25fps. VIDEO MODE gives you all of the standard broadcast and consumer sensor presets (2/3", 1/2", 1/2.3", 1/3", and 1/4") in 16:9 or 4:3 if possible. Choose between 23.98, 25, and 29.97fps. See shutter speed on the shooting screen, and ISO is replaced by Gain/dB. Suddenly, you can you can accurately frame for ten different lens standards, plus anamorphic. Show me another camera that can do that! This is such a cool little camera.

Great piece of tech, both ; ) Irresistible. Love the colours.

I've been troubleshooting this new EOS-M build with Claude, and I think it's finally stable enough to share here. So, what is it? The "FilmGate" Build for the Canon EOS-M is an experimental remix of Amit Kattal's incredible Slim GUI build, designed for people who want to shoot raw video with framing based on real motion picture film formats. FilmGate offers: • Six film presets: Academy 35mm, A35 Anamorphic, Super 16, 16mm, Super 8, and Regular 8, with crop options including 16:9, 1.85:1, and 2.35:1. • B&W Preview Option: Displays the liveview in black and white on the LCD and HDMI output (recorded footage remains in color). • 18fps: Available for S8 and 8mm presets • 1080i HDMI: The camera stays locked at 1080i output for easier monitoring. • Streamlined menus: Removes or hides several less commonly used options. CREDITS This build is based on the work of many Magic Lantern contributors, including (but not limited to) A1ex, Danne, Bilal, and Amit. None of this would have been possible without them. I am not a developer and this build contains a substantial amount of AI generated code. It is therefore not intended for inclusion in any of the main Magic Lantern builds, in accordance with the Magic Lantern LLM policy. IMPORTANT This experimental build is only for the Canon EOS M running firmware 2.0.2. It has not been thoroughly tested yet. Expect bugs and glitches. Try at your own risk! Latest: https://github.com/shaneintherain/Crop-mood-eosm-filmgate/releases/

If watching camera YT has taught me anything, it's that there's no such thing as bad attention. In fact, if you can stir up some haters, then your videos will get more "engagement" and you'll do better in the algorithm. The two 'personalities' on YT who keep starting arguments with each other are all the better off for the controversy. So I say... post away! Anyone who brings some experience and/or some nuance to the table will definitely be ahead of the pack, especially for camera-related content.

I agree to a degree. I definitely think it can get over bearing and could possibly slow down your workflow. That’s why I shoot mostly burning a custom look in camera, but there are times when you really want to push the boundaries of an image. Whatever it is, I just make sure I’m capturing great images.

I just bought a used G9 without the LOGkey. That little bit of extra LOG DR I'm used to on my GH5 is leaving me wanting to go buy the key for the G9. It's not much increase in DR, you're right about that, but I do miss not having that little bit of extra juice to squeeze ... and, ironically, I do a lot of Standard profile 8-bit. So I ain't exactly super discriminating about my footage.

Probably not. I had a love hate relationship with that camera. I think I owned 3 of them, and the best I got out of it was on the first day I shot with it... it was all downhill from there.

Definitely agree.. especially considering that if you really want to push the image around, you can convert it to LOG and make changes and then convert it back again.

Unless I need to, I only keep my camera bodies in cages for the added protection and then just put them in these for the top and side handles. I really, really hate rigging these dayes. It's perfect for handheld work. https://a.co/d/05vYlA3b

Mine is in the link above. The others are all being posted on the Magic Lantern EOS-M group on Facebook. Here's a sneak peek of what Magic Lantern looks like in 2026!

How and where to find the respective builds/updates?

Thanks! Will try this at my earliest opportunity. Please update with any new builds. Is there more info anywhere on the Amit Kattal builds other than the github page?

Could do as Panasonic are not Sigma’s master…but I don’t think it will have all the features of an S1ii, but no IBIS would probably be a deal-breaker for me as it would need to have a superb level of digital stabilisation for my needs. I don’t know about others, but I’m not one for rigging stuff out and so few OIS L Mount lenses.

The rumours seem promising. Still no word on IBIS though. I owned an OG Fp briefly as I fancied experimenting with Raw video, but ultimately didn't have the patience. It was quirky, small and light but the lack of IBIS and a tilting screen frustrated me. It'll be interesting to see what Sigma do. If it uses the S1 II sensor, I certainly hope Sigma's processing for any compressed codecs will be better and more organic looking than Panasonic's current offering.

Nice! I expect a lot of cool hacks to come out in the coming months. I kind of wonder if we'll get to the point where a lot more cameras get raw video capability. My build is a remix of another recent build that made the camera a lot more user-friendly. I remapped all of the presets so that the windowed sensor matches the physical size of film. Gone are 2.5K and 2.8K, etc. Want to use a 35mm film lens? There's a preset for that. Super 16 or 16mm? How about 8mm? You're covered. I've also included 1.85:1 and 2.35: aspect ratios where it made the most sense. After some troubleshooting, it's all working over HDMI too. I've also added a timecode feature (really excited about this) and updated the UI to look more elegant, with a color palette that looks a lot like this website. But in all honesty, most of my time has been spent hunting down random black flashes, broken UI elements, and glitches. I photograph/video each with my phone, upload to Claude, and we go back and forth running test builds in the camera until it's improved. It's slow work, but the camera feels a lot more stable. Don't know if you have an M, but feel free to give it a try if you're curious. How's your GH2 hack?

No way it has all the best features and also undercuts S1ii price. My guess is no ibis, not class leading af, and the evf is sold separately to make the total price higher than the S1ii. However, if it delivers on good image quality, low rolling shutter, small body with evf option, I would still be excited. It would be great to have a tiny, light body for hiking but have the option of an evf.

Hopefully S1 II sensor not S5 II!

Really looking forward to this. If it has all the missing stuff... Articulated screen, IBIS, built in EVF, Sony-level autofocus, then I'll be getting one. A lot to pack into an Fp sized body but if anyone can do it, Sigma can. And $2500 would be absolutely fine for something like that with internal raw and a unique form factor that goes after the FX5 and gives it a good mauling. All without shareholder money too... Well done Kazuto san.

An FP with the S1ii sensor, tilt screen and IBIS for me would be done deal. Before the S1ii/S1Rii came out in basically a modified S5ii chassis…which I don’t mind, I had hoped and would have preferred the cine style body of the FX3. I tested and loved the concept of the FP-L but just too many compromises. I got why Sigma didn’t make a mainstream camera but at the same time, you have to have certain stuff or it will hurt sales. As far as I am aware, the FP has never been anything but a low selling cult camera. I don’t think a new model would change that scenario that much but surely at least addressing a couple of key areas is going to help in that regard. If this new camera is an FP2 and if it has certain features, I don’t think it would be enough for anyone to be chucking away whole systems to go over to, but for those maybe already in L Mount or for folks that only need one camera, it could be viable. It has to be a bit more than an S9 though…

I don't know if I have any cameras that record in 8-bit at this point, but I can certainly poke around a little. Worst case, I could go even lower-fi and just shoot it on the PXL-2000.

Maybe late to the party.. Left-Handed Girl is maybe the latest film completely shot in the wild (and with a phone)