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Damn. After playing with the 7artisan 10mm, this camera looks so good. The electronic IBIS is working wonderfully and you don't hear any audio weirdness like with normal IBIS sometimes. The colors when you put the Log into FilmConvert are great IMO. About the 10mm, it's not perfect. For starters, there was quite a bit of play in the mount. I fixed it with a little electrical tape. However, it's super easy to focus and quite fun. The image seems quite sharp too.

Hi, I'm the author of the "Sanity" patch for the GH2. I just uploaded the last version to my Google drive, if anybody is interested in using it. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/157bZ_DRA0FzA-7QUWG3lXwQmfoTEtXQl?usp=sharing Here's a little background on why I developed it. When Vitaliy unlocked the GH2, there was a gold rush to create patches with very high bitrates. While the image quality looked great, those patches were terribly inefficient. I took it upon myself to create a patch that had the same top image quality, but at more "sane" bitrates. I can say with confidence that I succeeded, because I pixel peeped and compared the image frame by frame to the uncompressed output from the HDMI port. This way I had an absolute reference to shoot for. That was a long time ago, and I have long since sold my GH2. If anybody actually uses "Sanity", I would love to hear about it, just for old time sake!

I'm at a point where I ALMOST see no point in shooting log profiles. There are a few good ones, but most require more grading after a utility LUT is applied and/or creates scenarios where everybody's footage looks pretty much exactly the same. So if you're just slapping on a LUT and calling it a day, for 9 out of 10 shots, you could just use a standard rec709 picture profile and get similar results. With the advent of 10bit video, in recent years, most standard picture profiles look even better than they ever have with thicker color and near perfect skintones. Sure there are instances when you may need the extra stop or two of dynamic range a Log profile offers, or a specific LUT gets you a relatively quick look by shooting Log, but again... 9 out of 10 times, a slightly tweaked Rec709 picture profile will end up looking better and get you there so much easier without worrying about CSTs and color pipelines... especially since damn near ever Log profile is just trying to emulate Arri LogC which in turn was designed to emulate film. Speaking of, I have the Arri LogC3 software key on my GH6 and it's pretty good... better than vLog but it's still noisy as hell with ugly chroma noise in the midtones and shadows so I recently went back to CineLikeD and V and I am back to making a couple contrast and saturation adjustments and being happy with it. I'm sure there is a slight hit in DR, but nothing so drastic that I'm surprised or wish I shot in Log instead. So Log is cool, I'm glad it's available, but it's fairly unnecessary in most situations and can cause a bigger headache.

Went for a walk this morning. I was able to make a short video: Sorry for the music. Everything is hand-held. Shot it at various frame rates. Most everthing shot in GoPro Log 2 (the slow-mo shots are in Natural) and plopped into a timeline for cutting and added FilmConvert with the GoPro Mission 1 Pro and GoPro Log 2 profile. No grain was applied. Anyway, you'll get an idea of the colors, electronic stab, etc. I also wanted to say that I was able to update the ILS to the GoPro Labs firmware and use a QR code for putting a super-helpful histogram (better than the Lumix one on the GX800).

Very cool! I'm so glad you are keeping this thread alive. One of my first interchangeable lens cameras was the eos-m and I loved that camera. The last time I used it, almost 10 years ago, was when I tested Magic Lanter on it... I did test the raw but it was pretty abysmal back then... so I was more interested in the bitrate bump. Shortly afterwards, my camera path led me through BM and into my 5D iii, so the the eos-m just sat in the closet for years. A couple years ago I was thinking I'd take it out and mess with it again. Hadn't really thought about using it in years, so I grabbed it from the closet, charged one of my old batteries and pushed the on button... and nothing. I just figured it died... so back into the closet it went. I recently realized it may need a card with ML boot flag (or whatever it's called) on it. I ordered some new batteries and I'm going to figure out which cards are good for the new builds and cross my fingers. Anyway @QuickHitRecord thanks again for keeping this topic alive. No disrespect to the other forum members, but basic camera chat about new releases is fun and all, but the reason I started posting on EOS HD was because of posts like this.

I think only in the FB page. Here was the introductory post: I've tried it and it impressed me enough to use as the basis for my own build. This is moving fast though. Someone has already remixed the build I posted earlier today.

I've been troubleshooting this new EOS-M build with Claude, and I think it's finally stable enough to share here. So, what is it? The "FilmGate" Build for the Canon EOS-M is an experimental remix of Amit Kattal's incredible Slim GUI build, designed for people who want to shoot raw video with framing based on real motion picture film formats. FilmGate offers: • Six film presets: Academy 35mm, A35 Anamorphic, Super 16, 16mm, Super 8, and Regular 8, with crop options including 16:9, 1.85:1, and 2.35:1. • B&W Preview Option: Displays the liveview in black and white on the LCD and HDMI output (recorded footage remains in color). • 18fps: Available for S8 and 8mm presets • 1080i HDMI: The camera stays locked at 1080i output for easier monitoring. • Streamlined menus: Removes or hides several less commonly used options. CREDITS This build is based on the work of many Magic Lantern contributors, including (but not limited to) A1ex, Danne, Bilal, and Amit. None of this would have been possible without them. I am not a developer and this build contains a substantial amount of AI generated code. It is therefore not intended for inclusion in any of the main Magic Lantern builds, in accordance with the Magic Lantern LLM policy. IMPORTANT This experimental build is only for the Canon EOS M running firmware 2.0.2. It has not been thoroughly tested yet. Expect bugs and glitches. Try at your own risk! Latest: https://github.com/shaneintherain/Crop-mood-eosm-filmgate/releases/

A few more thoughts on the ILS... Here's a 4k shot of my balcony solar panels. I really thought I could make some moiré with this. Not the case, at least not in the 4:3 4k mode. Everything is hand-held with the E-stab on. For DR in GoPro Log2, it seems to be living up to their claims 14 stops. When it does clip, this is what it looks like: Personally, I can live with this. I have a FilmConvert Hazy plugin to smoothen out some of that harshness on the clouds: This was all done rather quickly and could have been better, I'm sure. Here, I cranked up the shadows just to see what it would look like. I might run it up against my S9 just because I'm curious.

I respect that choice. But I'm also not going to post every build that's offered. Maybe if I see another that catches my eye. Currently working on a new idea: FILM MODE gives you all of the film presets in some or all of 4:3, 16:9, 1.85:1, and 2.35:1, puts shutter angle on the shooting screen, and offers 23.98 and 25fps. VIDEO MODE gives you all of the standard broadcast and consumer sensor presets (2/3", 1/2", 1/2.3", 1/3", and 1/4") in 16:9 or 4:3 if possible. Choose between 23.98, 25, and 29.97fps. See shutter speed on the shooting screen, and ISO is replaced by Gain/dB. Suddenly, you can you can accurately frame for ten different lens standards, plus anamorphic. Show me another camera that can do that! This is such a cool little camera.

Great piece of tech, both ; ) Irresistible. Love the colours.

i think the meike 8mm was super nice but consider getting laowas 6mm or 7.5mm if you want such a wide fov. They’re just so much smaller and lighter

By the way, the GH2 was one of the last Panasonic cameras to have unencrypted firmware and then even when encrypted with an update, Vitaliy found a way to decrypt it and make the hack possible. I've been looking into a possible further hack for the GH2, with Claude on the job and making decent progress. LUT -> Custom Photo Style might be possible and a lot of other things!

It looks like our favourite GH2 hacker has shut up shop, personal-view.com is no longer active and the domain points elsewhere. I'll miss it

Y’all have to ask for a paycheck, ’cause I’ll end up buying this one, it’s almost impossible not to... :- )

Well, for rigging it, maybe. The camera is just so small and the mount isn't supposed to have more than a 250g lens on it. Those Meike lenses are 540g at a minimum. And just to clarify, I really don't see the ILS as a photo-first camera, unless you're taking 8k screen grabs. The interface sucks for the most part too with only 2 physical buttons and a tiny LCD (albeit decent). You don't even get a histogram out of the box- they need to fix that.

If this camera lacks a mechanical shutter, the Metabones BMPCC 0.64X speed booster is an obvious choice (as long as it doesn't hit the sensor filter). Also, the excellent Meike M4/3 cinema line that bottoms-out at 8mm is worth consideration. Meike has still versions of these lenses, but they seem to be the same price as the cinema versions. I only wish this camera had a way to sync strobes.

Very soft but cool none the less!

I was only able to muster a few shots today. I'm actually not sure what I'm more impressed with: colors and look with log and FilmConvert Nitrate + Hazy; or, my MacBook Air's (M5) ability to cut through the footage and watch in realtime. Initially, I wasn't that impressed with the Natural or Vivid profiles, but the Log looks great to me with FilmConvert. I need to try more. The ILS did very well with handheld shots at 17mm, given it's only electronic stab. I will have more lenses next week to try out. Unfortunately, I didn't have a ND of any type to test on this lens (who make a 40.5mm thread anyway? That's stupid). Anyway, next week, I'll have more stuff, including the media mod their new microphone kit. I know it sounds like I'm going all-in with GoPro, but I definitely think they're on to something. I'm quite impressed with the ecosystem too. No need to go through the anxiety in choosing between 5 different cameras either. You want wide- get the mission 1 pro or a Loawa lens.

I also get where you are coming from and that is why I bake the LUT into my footage. I set up all my cameras with 3 basic profiles based on ISO and WB for outdoor, indoor and low-lowlight scenarios. I say LUT, but there are actually 2x LUTS stacked; the conversion LUT and then my own custom ‘Look LUT’ which can be dialled in anywhere between 10-100%. It gets the look I want SOOC and it’s as unique to me as these things can be, is easy in the workflow and allows me to concentrate more on the interesting side of editing a film rather than the boring to me, more logistical grading. Only really works if no one else has a say in the end result and I’m fortunate that I’m my work, the grade is 100% my call.

Probably not. I had a love hate relationship with that camera. I think I owned 3 of them, and the best I got out of it was on the first day I shot with it... it was all downhill from there.

Definitely agree.. especially considering that if you really want to push the image around, you can convert it to LOG and make changes and then convert it back again.

Love your insights, you should post more :- )

Unless I need to, I only keep my camera bodies in cages for the added protection and then just put them in these for the top and side handles. I really, really hate rigging these dayes. It's perfect for handheld work. https://a.co/d/05vYlA3b

Mine is in the link above. The others are all being posted on the Magic Lantern EOS-M group on Facebook. Here's a sneak peek of what Magic Lantern looks like in 2026!

How and where to find the respective builds/updates?

Thanks! Will try this at my earliest opportunity. Please update with any new builds. Is there more info anywhere on the Amit Kattal builds other than the github page?

Could do as Panasonic are not Sigma’s master…but I don’t think it will have all the features of an S1ii, but no IBIS would probably be a deal-breaker for me as it would need to have a superb level of digital stabilisation for my needs. I don’t know about others, but I’m not one for rigging stuff out and so few OIS L Mount lenses.

The rumours seem promising. Still no word on IBIS though. I owned an OG Fp briefly as I fancied experimenting with Raw video, but ultimately didn't have the patience. It was quirky, small and light but the lack of IBIS and a tilting screen frustrated me. It'll be interesting to see what Sigma do. If it uses the S1 II sensor, I certainly hope Sigma's processing for any compressed codecs will be better and more organic looking than Panasonic's current offering.

Nice! I expect a lot of cool hacks to come out in the coming months. I kind of wonder if we'll get to the point where a lot more cameras get raw video capability. My build is a remix of another recent build that made the camera a lot more user-friendly. I remapped all of the presets so that the windowed sensor matches the physical size of film. Gone are 2.5K and 2.8K, etc. Want to use a 35mm film lens? There's a preset for that. Super 16 or 16mm? How about 8mm? You're covered. I've also included 1.85:1 and 2.35: aspect ratios where it made the most sense. After some troubleshooting, it's all working over HDMI too. I've also added a timecode feature (really excited about this) and updated the UI to look more elegant, with a color palette that looks a lot like this website. But in all honesty, most of my time has been spent hunting down random black flashes, broken UI elements, and glitches. I photograph/video each with my phone, upload to Claude, and we go back and forth running test builds in the camera until it's improved. It's slow work, but the camera feels a lot more stable. Don't know if you have an M, but feel free to give it a try if you're curious. How's your GH2 hack?

No way it has all the best features and also undercuts S1ii price. My guess is no ibis, not class leading af, and the evf is sold separately to make the total price higher than the S1ii. However, if it delivers on good image quality, low rolling shutter, small body with evf option, I would still be excited. It would be great to have a tiny, light body for hiking but have the option of an evf.

Hopefully S1 II sensor not S5 II!

Really looking forward to this. If it has all the missing stuff... Articulated screen, IBIS, built in EVF, Sony-level autofocus, then I'll be getting one. A lot to pack into an Fp sized body but if anyone can do it, Sigma can. And $2500 would be absolutely fine for something like that with internal raw and a unique form factor that goes after the FX5 and gives it a good mauling. All without shareholder money too... Well done Kazuto san.

An FP with the S1ii sensor, tilt screen and IBIS for me would be done deal. Before the S1ii/S1Rii came out in basically a modified S5ii chassis…which I don’t mind, I had hoped and would have preferred the cine style body of the FX3. I tested and loved the concept of the FP-L but just too many compromises. I got why Sigma didn’t make a mainstream camera but at the same time, you have to have certain stuff or it will hurt sales. As far as I am aware, the FP has never been anything but a low selling cult camera. I don’t think a new model would change that scenario that much but surely at least addressing a couple of key areas is going to help in that regard. If this new camera is an FP2 and if it has certain features, I don’t think it would be enough for anyone to be chucking away whole systems to go over to, but for those maybe already in L Mount or for folks that only need one camera, it could be viable. It has to be a bit more than an S9 though…

I have heard good things about the Laowas, but my experience with the Meike cinema line and the Metabones 0.64 speed booster is that they have excellent performance that would work well with the high resolutions and the smaller sensor.

One just cradles the lens in the left hand. Gopro offers a cage/handle with a shutter release that makes it easier. The Meike and Metabones 0.64 should pair perfectly with the 8K and 50 megapixel resolutions. At NAB, Gopro's entire booth was a gallery of huge, spectacular stills of horses shot at 50 megapixel raw, with the fixed-lens version of the Mission 1. The photographer has an amazing eye, and I was fortunate to get to talk to him at the booth. This current version would make a great hybrid -- if it only had a way to sync flash (and at a decent shutter speed). As an Olympus user, I don't spend much time worrying the interface. Yes. That's not a "stills only" problem. I certainly appreciate small rigs and the charm of using lenses with a proportional size. However, this camera offers a unique opportunity to inexpensively get a lot of performance with relatively low cost optics. Also, cameras are continually getting miniaturized, so it might not be long before the have the Alexa "Micro" with a PL mount. We all might have to learn how to work with a tiny box on the end of a lens.

Here's what Mathieu Stern had to say about his experience:

ZR ctl or Paralax Monitor is great. Interface is good and allows to change practically any major video related setting. For somebody like me who is not familiar with Nikon menus it is a great help. Connectivity with the camera is breeze too. Just plug the USB cable. It solves also another problem which Z6 III has - lack of LUT support. It is important for me as I use LUTs to set exposure. Using a LUT is by far the best and easiest way to set exposure for video and also save lots of time in post. Kudos to the creator. Megadap ETZ21 Pro+ is the first adapter that I know which allows you to stack electronically two adapters ! Any A-Mount Lens + LA-EA5 + Megadap ETZ21 Pro+ can autofocus on Nikon Z bodies. Same with Canon EF lenses and Metabone adapter + Megadap ETZ21 Pro+. Almost any Sony or third party lens for Sony E mount works (can autofocus) with Megadap ETZ21 Pro+ on Nikon Z bodies. Practically I can use all the lenses that I use on Sony. Of course there will be some penalty with continuous autofocus but I rarely use it anyway. Nikon Z mount cameras have some quirks too. For example they lack the third wheel that most mirrorless camera have. You need to push and hold a button and keep it pushed while changing ISO. Assuming that for video we lock the shutter at 2x frame rate, 2 wheels will do the job. Nikon however don't give the option to assign ISO on some of the wheels. You can only switch them - one for shutter and one for aperture and vice versa. I bought Nikon Z6 III instead of Zr. Z6 III has full size HDMI and great EVF plus a physical shutter for photos. Flip out screen being small or big is not that useful for me. A monitor or smartphone that serves as a monitor and sits on top of the camera and slightly in front is much better. Price second had is now around 1600/1500 E mark. Low enough to get it and scratch this internal RAW view itch 🙂

Thanks for your comments. I'm looking forward to mounting the ils to a fd 500mm mirror lens which will sit on a sky watcher mount for moon shots. i could add in a 2x teleconverter but i prefer a 1.4 converter. They just seem to have an edge to me. Which is something i don't have at the moment. Isn't it ironic, how companies decide on how to implement features. Some critical thinkers might go with the word crippled but i like to be more polite usually.

Honestly i thought i was generalizing, i don't believe i was accusing you of piracy. Apologies to you, if you thought that. Well not a music concert but we just had kylie Minogue do the half time entertainment at the afl grand final. I would expect out of the 100 000 crowd probably 95000 filmed that section with their smart phones. I doubt any of them would be accredited, I would have too, if i'd been there... 🥰 Hopefully the emoji displays properly as i been having issues with those little suckers.. I presume there would be licencing agreements and financial arrangements between the afl and tv stations about video copyright. I suppose neither group like the idea of having potentially a 100 000 smart phones or a smaller amount of cameras at the event but there's probably not much that can be done about it within reason. I could certainly see them getting agitated at someone wandering in with a 600mm lens without prior arrangement and i don't have a problem with that. I suspect a 600mm lens comes under "professional use" rather normal use or casual use. Personally i can see three use cases, for cameras at events, maybe you can think of more. 1) I can show my friends and family without issue that i was there having a good time 2) I could take a ten second selfie of my ugly mug and a very small pixelated kylie strutting her stuff in the background for a vlog, again no real issues. 3) I could conceivably somehow sneak a small monopod, a modern mirrorless camera with two forms of stabilization and a 10 times zoom and have at it, without paying a large chunk of money to either company and reproducing it on my social medium of choice. How to make money out of it, i have no idea. Maybe its not about the money, it could be the likes i guess or even giving the finger to the establishment. What people do and why, continues to amaze me at times. But i think we could both agree, due to intent, option 3 is wrong (probably on many levels) Initially i read this and had no idea what you were alluding to. Blame linguistics. semantics, continental drift.. In hindsight i missed the emoji as it didn't display for me properly, i now suspect what you said was tongue in cheek, it seems i misunderstood your meaning and jumped to the wrong conclusion, which may have led to the piracy issue you raised, sorry about that. Any time there is money involved or to be made, people are going to get antsy if they think their missing out. I suspect if you hosted an event free or otherwise and were the only person organised to cover that event and expected a financial return from publishing online and i rock up with my 8k gopro on a gimbal and wave it around and you find my video online for a small fee or even free later that evening, you'd be a little agitated, your not going to give me a medal.

some client work i did this year that switches between nicer video camera - iphone and minidv: i think the artifacts from minidv are really cool in an age of constant video recordings from phones and mirrorless cameras. the built in super long zooms on these old camcorders are also super useful.

I did a few more tests this morning. I wanted to check the 4K IQ, and I tried everything I could to induce moiré, but to no avail. I scrutinized the Red, Green, and Blue channels as well, and the results were impressive. I'm fairly certain it's due to the image processing because it blows away the already respectable 4K image from my Panasonic GX800. And all of my tests were done with HyperSmooth on; it only gets better with it off. I also tried my Konica 300mm f/4.5 on a tripod in 8K. I'm not sure there's much point in using 8K for distant landscapes, but for closer subjects, why not? I still think 4K looks just as good. One thing this camera is not is a 1080p camera. IMO, they should let us use 10-bit in 1080p, but they don't. Also, when you switch to 1080p, it changes the color profile too. You have to go back and reset it when you resume shooting in 4K or 8K. I think I'll just stay away from the 1080p modes unless I really need the 480fps and up.

Emanuel, I've been on many concerts 🙂 Mostly rock, pop groups and individual performers. 🙂 More or less concept is the same as Sony maybe Honor has a better implementation. IMHO it will have low market demand. I am motioncam user and visit their community forum from time to time. How many members do you think this forum has ? It recently crossed the 10K mark. More than half of the people who bought the application will run a few test clips and forget about it. Let's assume it has 10K active users or 3x this number. It is still a tiny number compared to the billions of smartphones sold per year. While the economics work for the application and team of 2 people I doubt it will work for the design and production of an add on module + related application and software that can be used only with specific smartphone model. Smarthones are primarily communication devices, then cameras. It doesn't make sense to spend 2000 Euro for a smartphone only because of a particular camera module or add on. 1000 Euro for a phone with decent cameras + 1000 Euro for a better cameras with interchangeable lenses makes more sense. Again IMHO those add on camera / lenses, telephoto lenses, robot phones, they will not last long. We'll see. Let us know if you buy this particular smartphone / camera.

Lets just remember its basically an action camera that had fixed focus for the longest time. Gopro are to be lauded for giving us a mount that allows different lenses, maybe not every lens in the world, but an improvement on what came before. I look at like, baby steps, its a start. Getting af and every other modern lens feature would be akin to putting another man on the moon i think. Probably not doable for $700 us I suspect electronics and af motors in the lens would probably drain the battery pretty quick. The mission 1 does have better battery life, i guess GoPro didn't want to jeopardise that for a pretty niche product. Well i think of af as a pretty niche product, for the longest time cinema cameras didn't have af, realistically af is a fairly new development. No doubt lots of people will argue about it but i have gotten used to peaking and for me no af is a abit of a non event anyway.

I don't know if I have any cameras that record in 8-bit at this point, but I can certainly poke around a little. Worst case, I could go even lower-fi and just shoot it on the PXL-2000.

Good to know, i have gotten used to the peaking on the e-m1 iii. Occasionally i can still mess it up however but most times it works ok and i have to add its not the camera, its me with my Goldilocks syndrome, it has to be just right... I presume that if i use a fast aperture then the corresponding zone of focus is narrower too for the peaking and with a wider aperture then the peaking occurs across a wider zone of focus thats my thinking, although i cant say i have ever seen anything on youtube to confirm or deny that.

I actually kinda like it. Don't think it needs it, but you could easily add some sprocket holes to one side and some hair/dust/grain and I think it would pass for a bad digital 8mm film look... the micro shakes just adds to it. Could use those shots as transitions in your edits.

Great to hear it's working for you. I've long suggested that the cheap Chinese lenses are a lot like the high-end vintage lenses from the SLR film camera days - both had simpler optical designs and simpler coatings. The only challenge is how good the lens is wide open, but if it's enough for your application then you're all good! Same for me. I have saved power grades for each camera that convert from camera colour space to Davincis log space, and a few Timeline power grades that apply a few variations of film emulations. I just pull all the footage into a timeline, apply the power grades, and then adjust exposure on any clips that need it (I use ETTR so this is normal for me) and mostly I'm good. The wider DR of the GH7 and iPhone 17 Pro means that the images are less crunched and therefore respond nicely to a film emulation contrast curve and so need a lot less fussing than the GH5 ones did. I standardised on 58mm filters as that's the largest size that fits most of my lenses. Actually about two thirds of my lenses have that size natively and for the ones I use a lot that don't have that I bought dedicated step-up rings and just have them permanently attached. I have a K&F Concept True Color Variable ND2-32 (1-5 Stops) as my main vND and recently bought a NiSi IR ND8 (3-Stop) fixed ND to stack on it if the 5 stops of the K&F aren't enough (5 stops is enough for full-sun at F5.6 but wider apertures than that will require more). I wanted to just buy a nice 5-9 stop one but I have a Tiffen? 4-stop filter and when I paired that with the 1-5 stop I got all kinds of IR pollution on the iPhone, so I knew that anything more than 5 stops needed IR filtration too, and I couldn't find anything that had it. I had to buy an 82mm one for the front of my Sirui anamorphic adapter, but got a cheaper Neewer 1-5 stop which seems to work ok, although that one I only shot at night and colour fidelity is less important for that stuff. I also bought a few lower-quality 1-9 stop vNDs in specific sizes for when I wanted to keep the lenses as small as possible, so I got a 46mm one for the 14mm F2.5 pancake lens which lives on my GX85, and a 40.5mm one for the 17mm F1.4, which I had thought might be a good low-light lens for the tiny GX85 Super-16 setup but I haven't shot anything with that combo yet. Funny how people end up with similar solutions!

Trim support for NE finally landing in the SDK is nice, been waiting on that one. Now it just has to actually show up in Resolve, those updates always seem to take forever lol.

took long enough for trim to land, my drives are gonna be way happier once resolve actually picks it up.