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    • For example, here's a K-pop video that clearly has enough budget for half-decent cameras, but was shot on cheap looking cameras and definitely looks like it: ...and don't think it's a student film or anything, it was posted 6 weeks ago and has 9M views and lists the A&R person amongst the dozen or more people involved in making it!
    • I think compact cameras are also enjoying a resurgence because some of them are far worse than smartphones!  Just look at how retro SD video cameras have taken off, and how people are applying 00s digicam filters in post to their (comparatively pristine) smartphone footage too. In a way the high quality and ubiquity of smartphones creates a desire for something different...  which includes things like poor image quality (low resolution / DR / bitrates / etc), long zooms, ghosting and other image distortions, etc.  Beyond even that I think the fact that the phone is in people's hands for many hours a day means that having a change means putting something else in your hand, so a dedicated camera allows for that change of pace.  It also means that taking a photo at a social event or festival or solo walk etc doesn't mean involuntarily seeing all the notifications on your Lock Screen either. People are always looking for a change from what they have, and when what they have is high quality that means they will pursue low-quality.
    • Good points from @eatstoomuchjam.  That's why I went for the sharpest frame grabs I could find - considering the range of variables involved a soft looking grab might have been a scanning issue or provenance issue or there might have just been movement in the frame. Now that I've done that analysis I'm wondering where to from here. One thing I can do is to take my S16mm emulation and scale it 50% of the size and then adjust my power grade to match the grain and halation etc, and see if that looks like a 35mm scan (it should - that's how film works!!).  If so then I can proceed on that basis, but if not then I might have to get feedback and iterate again to get something appropriate. Once I've got that sorted out then I should be able to interpolate / extrapolate the parameters that needed changing and get a range of looks that vary from 8mm up towards 16 and 35mm and then beyond. At that point it'll be interesting to explore different combinations of: Film sharpness and grain Lens emulations Filtration (diffusion etc) From these I should be able to get a range of common looks, inspired by different combinations like: 8mm shot on-the-go Bolex 16mm camera shot at night The look: Faster 16mm film with mediocre prime lenses shot wide open Krasnogorsk-3 16mm camera during the day The look: Slower / clearer 16mm film with standard zoom lens (17-69mm F1.9 Zenit) shot stopped down 35mm film camera with master primes, or Cookes, or Panavision C-Series & T-Series, etc (I have a few lens tests with many of these lenses so should be able to recreate something that smells vaguely right by changing the vignetting, edge softness, CA, bloom, etc) I'd imagine that certain combinations will be more convincing than others, as we've likely come to associate certain image attributes together.   Obviously I won't be recreating them faithfully, but simply by taking inspiration from these a range of looks can certainly be developed.  One thing I have noticed is that lens designers often get custom requests from film-makers to tune a set of lenses to have a customised response.  For example maybe they want the speed and bokeh from a set of lenses to remain as-is but want more/less horizontal streaks and much more diffusion, etc.  This is noteworthy because if film-makers are are interested in different combinations of lens attributes then I don't feel like I need to try to get a perfect emulation of one lens or another either - it doesn't matter so much when you view it from a creative perspective rather than engineering perspective.   This is why my goal in my S16 emulation project wasn't to emulate this or that film stock, but rather to get something that looked like it was shot on some unknown stock with unknown provenance (e.g. maybe it's expired or wasn't stored well etc).  
    • Yes, it's on my radar too. Their Discord server is where the action is if anyone wants to follow along or get involved.  Sometimes there are even daily updates so it's very much still in development.
    • These are really nice. The best is the footprint. I played around with SpektraFilm but didn't do much with it. I should try it again.
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