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Thats probably good thinking 🙂 when i did a quick google check on the mission 1 and variants the older model from the major store outlets are selling for less than $500 trying to clear old stock no doubt. Which makes me think what price could they actually sell a camera for ? I did look into the backbone at the time, however the crop put me off as i remember it being like a 5 times crop ( i could be wrong about that) rather than the 2.7 crop from the mission1 compared to a crop of 2x from a normal mft mount. My oly 12mm would become like 32mm, my 24mm sirui would become almost 65mm which is certainly something to think about. The 17mm takumar i play with a bit would become 50mm. Not sure how to get a wide angle look on a mission 1 and a mft mount ? So far i think i have to find a lens around 6mm - not more than 9mm. Haven't seen any footage yet, but i suspect a speed booster should work either 0.64 or 0.70 to get you back close to a 2x crop or is my thinking flawed as i'm curious about that ? Of course this is all still theoretical as the mission1 ils is not yet available. What limitations are you expecting with a 1 inch sensor and passive mount, the lack of auto focus ? -
By eatstoomuchjam · Posted
It's not just the ILS model that is $700 - it's the Mission 1 Pro as well. Currently the Hero 13 normally sells for about $430 and they are often on sale for $350. The Insta360 Ace 2 and DJI Osmo Action 5 are in generally the same price range. At least for traditional action camera use cases, it's a relatively hard sell to say that Mission 1 Pro is worth almost twice the price. For the ILS, Back-Bone haven't exactly been lighting the world on fire with sales. I think that there will be a first wave of adopters who quickly dislike the limitations of a 1" sensor with a passive MFT mount. I'm excited for it, but not at $700. Maybe a year or so after it's released, the price will drop. It's a lot more interesting at the price of the current Hero 13. -
Your mileage may vary for your particular speed booster but if you look at the options for MFT on MetaBones versions they are transparent about which lenses may have restrictions with their products. For Nikon lenses, for example, there are limitations for their modern E range lenses (as distinct from their older lenses for their E Series cameras). This is a typical set of available options for the manual only lenses. Fungus optional. https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/bn_16098984 For completeness, here is a rated list of fast Nikon AF lenses. https://phillipreeve.net/blog/the-rated-list-of-the-fast-nikon-af-s-f-1-4-f-1-8-f-2-0-f-mount-primes/ The EF Art ones are excellent but are chunky fuckers. -
It was better when you could buy stuff under $1000 and pay not additional taxes. Gerry Harvey complained to the government he was losing too many sales. Thats when the ten % gst got applied to everything and the government had a win and Gerry Harvey could suddenly afford a few more race horses as well. For awhile those overseas ebay buys were a bargain as the middleman got cut out out the deal. However i suspect the manufacturers or sellers have upped the base price regardless of middlemen or not and the savings aren't as spectacular as they once were. Ah ok, i read that as a reasonable (price) opposite of what you meant lol, although not sure what gopros have normally sold for over there. I think i paid $500-600 for the 9 when it came out. Confident i looked around for the best "local" deal. Playing devils advocate momentarily and to be honest i have no interest in the other models, a new chip, decent capacity battery it seems, and ability to mount mft lenses and that 1080 at 960fps even at 10 seconds is impressive, i think i would be happy to pay $700 even through its a jump over earlier gopros but it wont be $700 here, I'm expecting $1000-$1300 er i just googled mission 1 in aus. Seems like there here, except the ils gopro and its $1100 which might come as a bit of a shock to some of you 🙂
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Somewhat embarrassingly, I originally bought the EF-MFT SB to replace my M42-MFT SB, but when I put my Takumar 50mm F1.4 on an M42-EF adapter and that onto the EF-MFT SB, the rear element of the Takumar interfered with the EF SB glass when I tried to focus more than a few meters away (nowhere near infinity focus). I probably could have determined that before I bought it if I'd searched enough, which is the embarrassing part. I'm not really sure how to tell which M42 and C/Y options would have this problem too.. is there a way to know? What Nikon lenses would be F1.4 or faster? and are there issues with the SB? The native MFT lenses from TTartisan / 7artisans are good options, but aren't as fast as the two Voigtlander F0.95 lenses I have, and are also bettered by a F1.4 lens on a SB. I did shoot with the TTartisans 50mm F1.2 in Japan and it seemed pretty good, but at 100mm equivalent FOV it's on the long end for my hand-held stuff. The Zeiss ZE Planar 50/1.4 looks like a potential option, being cleaner than the Takumar+M42-SB combo. The Mikaton 50mm F0.95 would be a stop faster than the Zeiss, and would be cleaner than the Takumar too, but is more expensive. I should look at the Sigma F1.4 primes too, in case something there stands out, although they're competing with the Zeiss Planar, which I would imagine is tough competition? I already have a ton of options and combined with my very specific requirements I'm really pushing things to find any options I haven't thought of, but I didn't think it would be so difficult to find super-fast FF EF lenses!
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