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By John Matthews · Posted
I got mine from GoPro France (probably EU fulfillment facility). I paid with Paypal. It shipped and arrived super fast. Apart from an annoyingly loud beep when you turn it on, the setup has been flawless. I'm surprised GoPro isn't in Australia. Or maybe it's the tariff BS? I wouldn't be surprised the ILS version gets sold out and quick. There's simply nothing like it on the market, being so small and light-weight. I can tell it's going to be a cult classic à la 5DII, GH2, and BMPCC OG (but for different reasons), especially if no one comes out with something similar for a long time. I'm not worried about the sale of GoPro as it always moves slowly. -
the mission 1 ils seems to be more rare than a unicorn or hens teeth here in aus. i would buy 1 in a heartbeat. as i have the mission 1 pro already. I have tried to buy from gopro here in aus however the sale, for want of a better word is (blocked) its not falling over because off insufficient funds, something else stops it. i could pay cash for an alexa or high speed phantom if i desired, so i know i'm not the problem. b&h photo wont ship it to aus. thirdly, pro av one listed as one of the few available resellers for gopro here in aus called me back today after i made a request on their webpage. basically, their middleman who gets cameras for them, have no idea when one will be available. Their not even taking orders for when they do become available. His advice was to be very careful chasing an ils as he feels there are some odd things happening. He did also ask a bunch of questions whether i had m43 lenses already and other things, once i had satisfied his curiosity he was quite happy to discuss the ils. I suspect he wanted to make sure it wasnt a rushed purchase and i had some idea of what i was getting myself into. Thats kind of nice when most are just chasing a sale. congrats to anyone who does manage to get hold of one. Not sure if it because of gopro got sold or something else but it looks like it will be awhile before one falls into my hands. -
By John Matthews · Posted
I'm expecting some of this older Chinese glass to not be up to the crazy sharpness of the newer glass. For wide lenses, it's rather tricky with this camera. Sure, you could get the Laowa 6 or 7.5mm, but at that point, you might as well get another GoPro Mission 1 Pro, offering a second setup that is waterproof, etc. That's why I'm going more for the cheap stuff. I'll see this weekend if I can live with the softness of the 17mm f/1.4. Personally, I don't need the 1.4 unless in a pinch, but I'm secretly hoping that this lens can decently resolve 4k at 1.4 in the middle sweet spot of the lens. Anyway, I already have the S9 with the Laowa 28mm f/1.2 (my favorite lens of all-time). Two days ago, I was able to film a hedgehog eating at f/1.2 and 12000 ISO- the footage was so clean. Will do this weekend. Super-busy right now with teaching high-schoolers English though. :-) I'm really stoked about having smaller setups. Panasonic used to give us that in the past, but I think they've moved on; then they'll realize that had it right to begin with but it's too late (always late to the party). The whole setup with the 10, 17, and 25 with the body will be about 750g- that matters, especially considering the frame rates, codecs, and battery life. -
Yes, and I think that the right situation for it is the combination of when you want a small camera and you want to shoot impromptu things. If you're shooting in controlled environments then a larger camera probably makes more sense, which was sort-of my point, and probably not explained that well. I agree about it being a new category, it sort of feels like that to me in a way too. Cameras are all about combinations of features, and this one has some feature combinations that haven't really come together before. I can recommend the Laowa 7.5mm F2, it's really sharp, but not cheap. It's probably not the right choice now as there have been wider lenses brought out in recent times, but as a reference the Laowa is a great performer. I suspect that we're probably better off without it having AF. I suspect that (in the parallel universe where they did give it AF) the AF they gave it would have been pretty rubbish and also because it got AF it probably wouldn't have gotten any/many good MF features, so neither pathway would have been particularly useful. Back in the days before PDAF subject detection was really a thing I remember spending quite a lot of time half-hitting the shutter and then asking the camera "why did you focus on the background?!?!?". The problem then, as well as the problem now, is that when there are multiple things to focus on, the robots are choosing which one and often falling on their faces. I shoot MFT at F5.6 and at F2.5 on PDAF and CDAF models and it's great and focuses incredibly fast all the time, but only because either the DOF is so large that everything is in focus or I'm simply focusing on on the middle of the image. I have the TTartisans 17/1.4 and it's small and light and cheap, but wide open it's more of a "character lens" rather than a sharp one. It's good for emulating the softness of film in-camera, if you know what I mean! I also have the 50mm 1.2 and it's a bit better than the 17mm IMHO, but neither of them are high-end glass. Share some images with us if you're able! -
By John Matthews · Posted
After looking and foraging my various drawers in the house, I was able to find 3 Bell & Howell lenses from my grandfather: 0.7 inch, 1 inch, and 4 inch lenses. This was standard war-time military issue for war journalists. I also found 3 plastic Lomography lenses: I have ordered some inexpensive Chinese lenses too: 7Artisans 10mm f/3.5, TTartisan 17mmf/1.4, and TTartisan 25mm f2- a holy trinity for about 350 euros. From what I've heard, these lenses all suffer from poor corner performance; however, I'm throwing away 45% of that APS-C image anyway and only keeping the sharpest part. I figure those will be a perfect size too with the total kit under 1kg. I considered the Laowa cine lenses, but decided that they were simply too pricey for the concept of this kit. I'm bummed about not being able to use my AF M43 glass, but I love the limitations of straight up manual focus. I'll be shooting a lot with the 17mm this weekend.
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