Administrators Andrew Reid 10,228 Posted June 20, 2019 Administrators Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 7/2/2018 at 10:30 PM, John Brawley said: It's never going to happen. Sony won't allow it. They will never allow it. Kinefinity can say "future adaptors" all they like. Sony run a closed eco-system. This is their MO. Sony own the mount. No other camera other than one made by Sony will have a native E mount. Lens adapters to Sony e-mount already exist. A Kinefinity mount can just be an adapter. Reverse engineering is entirely legal too. 16 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: I'm still trying to find a supplier for the e-ND that can make a larger piece so slightly back burnered at the moment while I concentrate on other things. The electronic part does work in concert with my other controllers such as this one (and the app as well actually) so when it happens it will be integrated. Currently, the size of the glass that I have is only really suitable for in mount versions, which is a bit of an issue with cameras such as the P4K which relies on speed boosters. Anyway, I've just done a quick and dirty pic (literally when you see the finger prints all over the glass) to illustrate what the build along would have been with the smaller piece. I used the MicroBit as the controller (in an electric blue DIY case obviously) as its cheap and easy to program for everyone (although I would obviously provide the source code) so at its very, very basic component level this is how it works and you could finesse it from there in terms of housing etc. and not using croc cables to connect it! In this version you just use the two buttons to increment and decrement the ND level as seen here at 0%, 50% and 90% reduction although you can scale it anyway you want. Another advantage of the MicroBit is that it has a very simple Bluetooth link function so you can use a second one to remote control it. When I source the bigger piece, I'll put it up properly but thought it might be interesting to you in terms of how it works as it will be exactly the same simple principle but bigger! I'm actually pondering a mechanical version of it at this point though.... The Holy Material EXISTS!! Good luck with the project mate! BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebrothersthre3 1,231 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hope you can get this off the ground man. Definitely would be down if its in the sub $200 range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kisaha 1,744 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 7 hours ago, BTM_Pix said: I'm still trying to find a supplier for the e-ND that can make a larger piece Wait till you see what this one does..... I love big knobs! Tell us! (Nice "marketing" picture also). As of the ND solution, in mount is good enough for me, as I will be using it run n gun with native m43 glass and then is when I need most an e-ND solution. I could do both options of course. Seriously, if I set the ND issue I am ordering the P4K the next day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Members BTM_Pix 5,672 Posted June 20, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, Kisaha said: I love big knobs! Its for focus control. Unlike the small Record Start/Stop one, this one can control all the parameters as well as monitor them. It also has the multiple recallable Aperture/ISO/Shutter/Temp/Tint memory slots functionality from my app. The focus controller works with native MFT lenses and EF lenses on Metabones smart adapters and has adjustable rotation range (i.e. how many complete turns it takes to go from minimum focus to infinity) and one shot AF by pressing the wheel in. As per my app it has storable focus points with the option to instantly switch or with a selectable transition rate. The big difference with this though is that there is also a manual option where you control the transition with the wheel. Internal battery recharged by USB and can also be used while being charged that way too. Time from switch on to connected and controlling the camera is around 3 seconds so a lot quicker than an app. 32 minutes ago, Kisaha said: Nice "marketing" picture also Haha....it was just a quick picture to show @Andrew Reid that it is daylight viewable. It is actually a terrible marketing picture for my balcony wall cleaning skills though ! Kisaha, kye and Cinegain 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kisaha 1,744 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 @BTM_Pix thought so, but its even better ofcourse! Is this going to be kickstarted also? After the Lukilink fiasco I "promised" myself I would never kickstart again, but I can easily change my mind anyway! Congrats, you are on a roll as of late! All those increase the usability of the P4K significantly. I am not lying when I say that I will get the camera because of you. Thank you. BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Members BTM_Pix 5,672 Posted June 20, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, Kisaha said: @BTM_Pix thought so, but its even better ofcourse! Is this going to be kickstarted also? After the Lukilink fiasco I "promised" myself I would never kickstart again, but I can easily change my mind anyway! Congrats, you are on a roll as of late! All those increase the usability of the P4K significantly. I am not lying when I say that I will get the camera because of you. Thank you. Yes it will be on Kickstarter. I understand the apprehension about Kickstarter to be honest but rest assured nothing of mine will ever be going on there until it is ready to go from a functionality point of view, which both this and the small one already more or less are. The problems with Kickstarter invariably happen when it is being used to fund development rather than just funding production. I'll put up a small video when time allows next week to show both of them in operation. The small one has another trick (or two) up its sleeve that I'll also show in the video. Andrew Reid, kye, Cinegain and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MeanRevert 172 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 BTM, if the kickstarter starts in August, when would we receive our units? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Members BTM_Pix 5,672 Posted June 21, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 21, 2019 13 hours ago, MeanRevert said: BTM, if the kickstarter starts in August, when would we receive our units? Presuming a 30 day campaign, I would expect it to be shipping within 4-5 weeks of the conclusion. thephoenix 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Members BTM_Pix 5,672 Posted June 22, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 22, 2019 Some more information and pictures regarding the PBC in the NewsShooter feature here : https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/06/22/cda-tek-pbc-pocket-bluetooth-controller-for-bmpcc-4k-ursa-mini-pro/ Kisaha, webrunner5, matthere and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonesy Jones 0 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I think it’s pretty awesome you’ve got a write up in newsshooter. Great work. Don’t let the glory get to your head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kisaha 1,744 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jonesy Jones said: I think it’s pretty awesome you’ve got a write up in newsshooter. Great work. Don’t let the glory get to your head. He is almost a "regular" there! BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
independent 122 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Can you develop an app to bring the same functionality to an Apple Watch or smartwatch? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icarrere 26 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Hi, really nice! I would add a blocking mecanism, to block all buttons. Keep on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Members BTM_Pix 5,672 Posted June 22, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, independent said: Can you develop an app to bring the same functionality to an Apple Watch or smartwatch? You mean you don't like the very stylish red strapped version of this one ? The AppleWatch is something I've considered (as well as the Android equivalents when I made the app) but, in all honesty, my conclusion was that its overkill for this task in terms of complexity and certainly in terms of cost. The advantage with this (apart from it only being €60) is that you can attach it to a tripod or gimbal far easier than a watch and the expansion port offers us more possibility to extend what it can control. It'll make more sense when you see one of the expansion units. 12 minutes ago, icarrere said: Hi, really nice! I would add a blocking mecanism, to block all buttons. Keep on You mean you would like to lock out controls from being able to be operated from the camera itself ? Kisaha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icarrere 26 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: You mean you would like to lock out controls from being able to be operated from the camera itself ? I mean if I do not use it as a watch and to put it in a pocket, it would be nice if it can be blocked Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Members BTM_Pix 5,672 Posted June 22, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, icarrere said: I mean if I do not use it as a watch and to put it in a pocket, it would be nice if it can be blocked Ah OK, I thought you meant the camera. A lock mode on the unit is easy enough to implement. icarrere 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
heart0less 693 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 While I'm a big fan of Gerald's techy videos, this short isn't really my thing. Looks like a footage from the beginning of DSLR revolution. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emanuel 2,510 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Beginning of DSLR revolution?? Are you serious? I don't think in 90s we had that yet. My 5D2 arrived about a decade, a decade and a half later... Crappy enough to stand even as that, you mean? ; ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebrothersthre3 1,231 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 hours ago, heart0less said: While I'm a big fan of Gerald's techy videos, this short isn't really my thing. Looks like a footage from the beginning of DSLR revolution. The over exposed highlights are ugly. webrunner5, tonysss and kye 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kye 2,937 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: The over exposed highlights are ugly. I think that blown out highlights might be the worst aspect of poor quality digital, for me at least. Worse even than poor resolution, over-sharpening, or low-bitrates with macro-blocking. That's one of the primary benefits of shooting with 10+ bit depth, you can expose for the greatest DR and then choose your middle exposure in post while applying a nice highlight roll-off, and do it without breaking the image. To this end, I haven't really noticed the DR of my GH5 being too low as I can normally get the exposure I want and also not clip highlights. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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