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I attended a Black Magic event today and got to play around with the BMPCC4k for a while (maybe 30 mins or so). I cannot discuss all my observations for fear of causing unnecessary panic, but I will state a few things I noticed. 1. The autofocus is not the best, but with the M43 lens advantage, and focus peaking things should be fine. 2. A lot of firmware features were disabled and flavours of ProRes were limited along with recording capabilities, to prevent people from sharing random non final firmware footage. 3. The on-board fans for the camera were not only absolutely silent, they were also unnoticeable (I put my finger over the vents and noticed almost nothing). 4. The Windowed HD is a substantial crop. So Metabones may make a BMPCC4k specific adaptor (which would be essential IMHO). 5. Low Light seems decent. I would like to compare the GH5s with it, though the Black Magic doesn't seem to have any noise reduction, and so at higher ISOs, noise seemed visible (as was the high level of detail in the image). I think once a few units reach reviewers, I would love to see this reviewed for low light, among other things. 6. I found it to be heavy with cinema lenses. But I guess this may have been due to the lenses more than the body. Also after the composite, it should shave off at least 100gms off the weight. 7. Very impressive ergonomics. Especially the wheels the grip. After Panasonic's IBIS + OIS we're literally spoit if anything doesn't offer anything like that (Canon cameras?), it's a little disappointing (I know stabilizers are good enough). I feel Blackmagic is working with a lot of accessory makers. I hope they get a battery grip with atleast 3 hours of juice. If Panasonic tweaks the VLog, I am sure they can easily get atleast another Stop of Dynamic Range out of the cameras (if not more). I realised that M43 is in need of a very fast zoom lens with a decent Range (f2 12-36mm). They could make it fat or large, who really cares. And it must have good OIS (for cameras that don't have IBIS).

I was thinking back today just how much I enjoyed the images produced by my beloved old Sony FS100. I have shot with quite a few cameras since then, but I think I can honestly say that the FS100 produced some of the best-looking images on a consistent basis for me than any other camera I have worked with since. I shot primarily with Glen Cairn's G log ultimate which gave me beautiful dynamic range and color straight out of camera. Many times my grade was a simple lowering of the blacks and white balance adjustment. And, the files for 24mb/sec AVCHD, so easy in post. We moved on with cameras because of the size and ergonomics but I think that if Sony rehoused the FS100 sensor in a mirrorless body today, I would be the first buyer. Here are some 720p images from some of my old films for posterity sake. Does anyone else have fond memories with this camera? Some stills from your work with it?

Yeah, I know, couldn't stop staring at her Lav!!!

I think the PMW F3 is a far better camera for nearly the same money. Heck Adorama had a F3 for like 775 bucks. https://www.adorama.com/us 1018391.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwkYDbBRB6EiwAR0T_-gfda0onpd5_BqiNOttXZz3lzZ9EwQZSYaHldHxvZDtz_FSGxsciNBoCelsQAvD_BwET They have a Panasonic AF100 for 625 bucks, and a Bunch of FS100's. But yeah Like I have said, really good 1080p, even 720p is still good enough for 95% or more of video needs.

Haha. I hate both left and right extremes as well. Fed up of hearing their nonsense. We've had leftist new-age hippy conspiracy from JCS, and I had to let him go. We had right-wing conspiracies, and they are an even quicker way to get banned from any camera forum not just this one. I have a feeling a sub-forum makes things even worse, which is why LL had to close their coffee corner. There wasn't much coffee, but a lot of weirdos. Maybe we should keep the present situation, where the politics at least starts off filmmaking-related. Rather than actuals redneck threads one after the other.

I come here for entertainment and for camera information, not to read the political posts of what I consider idiots from both extremes. Subforum, please.

Yes No Yes No FACT is.. You prove my point, fake news... Yes.. Trump.. No... Trump... You are an idiot No, YOU are an idiot Banned The usual course of this kind of thread. Creating a sub-forum seems to be a good compromise.

Do you guys hold stock options at Sony?

It's 2018 and a good video feature arrives on a Canon EOS! I immediately assume it's an accident, so taunt is Canon holding the leash on performance. The 6D Mark II even managed to step back on quality from the 2012 predecessor which was already dreadful by the standards of 6 years ago. That's no accident! Indeed, what makes the M50 appealing to me is the happy accident of what crop factor you get when you cut an 8 megapixel window out of a 24 megapixel sensor. All the best things are happy accidents when it comes to Canon, who gave us DSLR video by accident, then later RAW video on a 5D Mark III with Magic Lantern by accident, then with the M50's ridiculous crop - a Super 16mm camera! Read the full article

Its only "assumed" for trolls. For photographers, its real. And there is no photographic "loss" in high ISO. Actually, D850 noise has slightly higher quality. According to lack of knowledge about Nikon advantages even among its loyal customers. According to their almost invisibility in social media. Oh you needed a copy of circuit design to evaluate! Well, they can't give it to you ? Or possibly not.... https://petapixel.com/2017/03/22/sony-keeps-best-sensors-cameras/ Oh certainly yes. Sony semi is way larger than Sony Imaging, and they don't say No to their high-volume-ordering partner in favor of their imaging division. Bussines facts don't care about your feelings.

Here's a link to an article about Grant Petty. https://www.smartcompany.com.au/entrepreneurs/influencers-profiles/blackmagic-design-founder-grant-petty-on-how-a-burning-revelation-led-him-to-create-his-300-million-video-technology-company/ I have much respect for the way he and his company does not over charge, even though they could charge more if they wanted too. In particular, the updates to Black Magic's Resolve Studio have been free of charge over the years and now they are basically throwing it in with the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k. Yes, I would pay $1295 for the Pocket Cinema Camera 4k without Resolve Studio.. If it takes a few days, weeks, or months past the end of September to ship the Pocket Cinema Camera 4k, I will still be extremely happy with Black Magic, once I have my Pocket Cinema Camera 4k in my hands. IMHO, it will be more than worth the wait.

Lets be honest....companies dont give a damn about Sony's fabrication machines. There are a dozen major facilities that can do that for everybody. Why do companies choose Sony so often? SONY PATENTS! The only way to gain access to Sony's sensor architecture patents....is to BUY access to them and have "Sony" fab them into your sensor! If ANY other plant tries to infringe on Sony patents and "clone" Sony technology, you could literally have your camera pulled from store shelves and be forced to pay damages back to Sony. Its too risky....its much better to give Sony your specs and leagally buy the rest of Sony technology that way. This sensor fab thing is just a big, massive pattent war. And Sony protects their pattents like a pack of wolves protects their kill. Any idea that Sony just happens to be the plant we chose out of thin air by chance to fab OUR sensor is hilarious. Sony sensor architecture PATTENTS are what make their sensors amazing....not their fab equipment. If you take that away then you can go to Aptina or Dalsa or CMOSIS or Samsung our anybody else....thats why companies like Nikon and Panasonic and Samsung dont for their best cameras.

Isn’t making such a statement the best way of causing panic? But interesting observations - thank you. Any indication of when official footage might be available?

I shot with one briefly not long after it was released, mostly to shoot some beach tourism stuff with the underrated A-mount 16-50/2.8 on one of the LAEA adapters. I used Glencarin's profile as well. For me its biggest issue was how easily it clipped the highlights, this meant heavy ND use since I mostly shoot outside in bright sunlight. The ND color cast was a PITA to remove (admittedly I'm not the best colorist), so was AVCHD on my Mac back then. Internal ND's would have made a huge difference. I think it was a step forward at the time being a large sensor cinema camera, but with fs700r's selling for $1500 or so, the fs100 feels really outdated by comparison these days. I've said for years I'd like to see something like the a6500 or even the fs700 sensor in a VG10/20/30 style small camcorder body to fill the gap between the a7 and the FS lines. The add-on XLR module would give you real audio. The new AF would be killer on a camcorder with a larger body to dissipate heat. But that will never be a reality. Side note, I got my mint fs100 from a wealthy guy in Miami for peanuts who just wanted to get rid of it. He was using it to shoot porn and bikini babe videos of his wife. He upgraded to a C300 to shoot them in 4k. We met at a cafe and he rolled up in a convertible Ferrari, he was an interesting character, it was straight out of Boogie Nights. Would love to be able to see what he's doing now. Chris

I don't envy you, "moding" is always a dirty game, if you ban someone, people will yell "censorship", if you don't the forum will quickly be filled with non-sense an nauseous arguments.. At least the sub-forum allows to keep all this content in one place under quarantine. Good luck.

Umm yeah... those images are gorgeous... I particularly love the bottom 4. Are Glencairn’s G Log settings transferable to the newer sLog2/3 capable cameras? I love these kind of posts, so thanks for sharing. After 5 years of hobby shooting, I find myself way more interested in older cameras I couldn’t afford then than the modern 4K cams available today. I know gear and tech marches forward but it seems like there was better looking footage from those cameras than what is floating around now. I guess the pool of shooters was smaller back then, so there is more muck to sort through. Hell, I alone have 50 or so horrible videos clogging up searches... lol.

Some of the best HDR 8k images I've captured with the new Ricoh organic CCD sensor involve rednecks and the best skin tone/motion cadence you've ever seen. And redneck culture is the backbone of America. You got something against rednecks!? You hate America for some reason? If you don't like it leave! Think for you're selves, sheeple!

I haven't tried the FS5, but have spent some time with the fs7. They are nice cameras for sure, just don't seem that came out of the camera special touch that the FS100 did. Maybe the 1080P helped with it to a certain extent, 4k can be a bit harder to get right without feeling like plastic.

Wellllllllllll........... if you go back and look at my post: What I did NOT say was: "Great news for new F8n owners"

Or possibly not.... https://petapixel.com/2017/03/22/sony-keeps-best-sensors-cameras/

It might surprise you but I don't read every thread on EOSHD! So only just saw this and, whoa, that lav in the opening scene is massive compared to the top she is wearing! The lav is almost giving her more coverage than her clothes.

Just a guess. But as it is a 'Hasselblad' camera there is a fair chance it will come with a 'leaf shutter'

11.8 stops according to DJI 12.8 for X5S

Here it is:

Thanks! Sony 16-35 f4, SLR Magic 35mm 1.2, Zeiss 55mm 1.8, Canon 135mm f2, Metabones IV adapter, and the SLR Magic variable ND

Shot this video for a Bible camp I was at last week entirely with Pro Color V4 HDR:

I voted move to a sub forum, despite the obvious bias presented in the poll options. Lots of forums have places for political discussions since they always tend to get heated. The arguments always go in circles since an internet argument isn't going to change anyone's opinion. Its also clear from reading through some of the recent threads here and elsewhere, some people really don't know or understand American politics (especially on a state/local level which had a huge impact on recent elections), our economy and our history. As an American I fully support free speech. But I don't go to camera, Jeep, mountain bike, guitar and travel forums to read ill-informed political discussions. Chris

I have to laugh when I see the lowlight of these cameras. For years I have been using cameras that start being pretty shameful, even for home videos, at ISO 3200 or 6400. Nit-picking these cameras at ISOs this high feels like being judgemental of someone that won bronze in the olympics!!

@Sage, here i bring some stills to share. Daylight interior. With a grade and without, raw shot in Cine-D. Feel free to experiment!

That is some pretty amazing footage. Grats.

Probably not :p Although Mattias guestimated that the D750 had 13 stops of DR in Flat profile. He compared it to his black magic cameras shooting in raw and prores, if I remember correctly. To my untrained eye, Nikon seems to have some kind of magic going on with their Analog / Digital converters that sony still doesn't seem to have mastered