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wow! very tempting to get AND a 6K, just for the EF mount, and the ATEM capabilities of 2 Pocket cameras.

Great one - two punch for most productions!

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12 hours ago, independent said:

Maybe full frame model dropping. With flip screen. 

the full frame will certainly come at some point, but how much will that be? Will they change their body/ergonomics? and why now? it will be making more sense to keep everything similar (a lot more profitable) until they change this generation of Pocket cameras.

I will be waiting until September to make a move, but this price drop (which isn't real yet, as all the dealers around here have the same prices 2400-3082, with 2700 the official price from the official BM retailers) is really tempting and makes a lot of sense for a lot of people.

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19 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

It’s already taken into effect at the big retailers in the US B&H and Adorama. Can’t wait till the used market drops to $1700

We are NOT U.S citizens!

Cheapest I found was at CVP for 2285euros (2474$), that seems to be the cheapest retail price in Europe, still a lot better than most new full frame hybrids and significantly cheaper than before (standard price was 2700-2800euros, and heavy discounted was near 2400euros). I am not sure how fast these prices will trickle down locally.

Maybe there will be some grey market nearing the 2000euros mark, hope so. 

It is also an indication that the 6 sold a lot less than the 4, by the way.

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10 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

We are NOT U.S citizens!

Cheapest I found was at CVP for 2285euros (2474$), that seems to be the cheapest retail price in Europe, still a lot better than most new full frame hybrids and significantly cheaper than before (standard price was 2700-2800euros, and heavy discounted was near 2400euros). I am not sure how fast these prices will trickle down locally.

Maybe there will be some grey market nearing the 2000euros mark, hope so. 

It is also an indication that the 6 sold a lot less than the 4, by the way.

I think it was largely due to how inexpensive it was. Even though the Pocket 4k doesn't check a lot of boxes for me I almost bought it just because its so cheap. 

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3 hours ago, Richard Carlson said:

My local supplier is currently quoting £2099 for the 6K with a free carry case. 

 

  https://www.ukdigital.co.uk/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-6k.html

same free case offer on the 4K as well. Looks like 5 year warranty on the 6K and 4K is included also.

 

 

I got a similar case ( a bit cheaper, but pleasantly dark-ish green) with my P4K back in the day.

@Anaconda_ Unfortunately they do not ship in my country, and anyway, it is a lot more than the 1.995$ U.S citizens pay.

I call it Euro-premium, why we do have to pay the premium anymore, I do not know..

@thebrothersthre3 "almost" is exactly 0 (zero) in any case, whoever low or high a price is.

We have discussed extensively the benefits of owing a P4K camera (even vs the 6K), it is not only because of the price, but the price plays a significant role to its success, yes, obviously.

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42 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

I got a similar case ( a bit cheaper, but pleasantly dark-ish green) with my P4K back in the day.

@Anaconda_ Unfortunately they do not ship in my country, and anyway, it is a lot more than the 1.995$ U.S citizens pay.

I call it Euro-premium, why we do have to pay the premium anymore, I do not know..

@thebrothersthre3 "almost" is exactly 0 (zero) in any case, whoever low or high a price is.

We have discussed extensively the benefits of owing a P4K camera (even vs the 6K), it is not only because of the price, but the price plays a significant role to its success, yes, obviously.

 I still need a third cam and it’s still on my radar. If it cost the same as the 6k though I’d just buy the 6k for IQ despite the other drawbacks. Just waiting to see if I can find a good deal on a used one when the economy tanks even more(hopefully it doesn’t )

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30 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

 I still need a third cam and it’s still on my radar. If it cost the same as the 6k though I’d just buy the 6k for IQ despite the other drawbacks. Just waiting to see if I can find a good deal on a used one when the economy tanks even more(hopefully it doesn’t )

It is around 1200$ in U.S, I bet you can find a used one for a lot less, the difference in money is huge, in IQ, is minimum. Have you used one? Braw, Dual ISO coupled with an ok lens and you are good to go. I am happy to use m43 lenses as well, easier, and very productive. The image is, miam..

What else do you have? why you need 3 cameras (I have 4 NX and the P4K now)? It is annoying if you have a lot of different brands and you have to match everything, that is why I try to keep one system, the P4K is bonus, and it is Braw, so it can match anything anyway.

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8 hours ago, Kisaha said:

Unfortunately they do not ship in my country, and anyway, it is a lot more than the 1.995$ U.S citizens pay.

I call it Euro-premium, why we do have to pay the premium anymore, I do not know..

Don't forget tax isn't included in he marked price in US. Not sure on the maths, but I think that will close the gap a little..

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8 hours ago, Kisaha said:

It is around 1200$ in U.S, I bet you can find a used one for a lot less, the difference in money is huge, in IQ, is minimum. Have you used one? Braw, Dual ISO coupled with an ok lens and you are good to go. I am happy to use m43 lenses as well, easier, and very productive. The image is, miam..

What else do you have? why you need 3 cameras (I have 4 NX and the P4K now)? It is annoying if you have a lot of different brands and you have to match everything, that is why I try to keep one system, the P4K is bonus, and it is Braw, so it can match anything anyway.

Yeah I have been thinking about a single system. I want something with good auto focus so I have an XT3 for that, I suppose I could just get three XT-3's. Would be pretty cheap. I enjoy RAW though so I also have an Ursa mini and just need to decide on a third cam. Either thinking another Xt3 or another blackmagic camera and the Pocket 4k seems to make the most sense(maybe the 6k). They aren't really going for below $1200 used right now. I've shot with the P4K many times but haven't edited any footage before. 

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On 4/26/2020 at 5:20 PM, Richard Carlson said:

The 6K is at a reasonable price in Aussie now

 

https://www.videopro.com.au/p-12714-blackmagic-design-pocket-cinema-camera-6k-canon-ef-cinecampochdef6k.aspx

$AU 3455 which is about £1783/€2039 less the tax back as a tourist and it comes out at £1620 Pity about the 14 days quarantine though!

 

I got it for less from videopro when it first came out. 3275.

Has anyone seen this cheap battery option:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.107.9bcb6dedrlxlJs&id=602685620258&ns=1&abbucket=2&fbclid=IwAR3dPAZdtow2g6_Q8T3Hwi9ZVj7el8Z3y93rSXa1prp2ZeLhhy6aPkya4zw#detail

 

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