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Hey guys,

Just saw on Reddit that the Samsung T5 is not on the list of Recommended media for 4K DCI BRAW 3:1/60fps. 

It is listed under '4K DCI 3:1 RAW up to 60 fps' for some reason, though.

Has anyone seen any problems with theirs?

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24 minutes ago, MeanRevert said:

Hey guys,

Just saw on Reddit that the Samsung T5 is not on the list of Recommended media for 4K DCI BRAW 3:1/60fps. 

It is listed under '4K DCI 3:1 RAW up to 60 fps' for some reason, though.

Has anyone seen any problems with theirs?

Mine works perfectly for all codecs and frame rates 

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On 3/22/2019 at 7:20 AM, Anaconda_ said:

Yes, you need to use a self powered mic that has at least +10 or even better +20db on it. The Rode Videomic Pro and Pro+ have that, and a few others. Unfortunately, the VideoMicro requires plugin power, which this camera doesn't provide. You can record with it, but you'll get a very quiet signal, which you can boost / noramlize in post, but that will also bring up the noise floor. 

I've heard many people, Curtis Judd for example, aim to record at around -18db and then boost in post. So if your mic can get you around that level, according to that theory, it's fine. I would still find that quite limiting, as it's better to use a louder mic and turn the input down in camera. That way you can reduce the noise floor from the camera's preamp when you push it in post.

Alternatively, you could try running your mic into the XLR port, which is said to be 6 - 12 db louder than the 3.5mm jack.

Perhaps it's just me but I have not been able to find a 3.5mm female to mini XLR male cable. I do see 3.5mm female to XLR though. I guess I can then do an XLR to mini XLR conversion. Does no one make a straight shot conversion cable? 

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You could make one, XLR cables are very easy to cut open and reattach to a new plug. Unfortunately, I don't think mini XLR is all that common and there's not much market for various different versions of it. 

But yes, simplest solution is 3.5mm-XLR-Mini XLR.

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There's a Mysterious new update that came out today:

What's new in Blackmagic Camera Setup 6.2.1

What's new for Pocket Cinema Camera 4K

Improved stability for future software updates

No new features in 6.2.1 for other camera models.

Get it here: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/ 

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9 hours ago, MeanRevert said:

Perhaps it's just me but I have not been able to find a 3.5mm female to mini XLR male cable. I do see 3.5mm female to XLR though. I guess I can then do an XLR to mini XLR conversion. Does no one make a straight shot conversion cable? 

You can get a female to mini XLR male adapter here (they have mislabelled the picture in the listing).

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20pcs-lot-KL-Mini-Xlr-Male-to-3-5mm-1-8-Mini-Female-TRS-Audio-Adapter/32544035870.html

Unfortunately the minimum order is 10 pieces but I suppose it means you would always have spare ones handy !

 

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Pictures of the Tilta F970 Battery Baseplate fitted to the Tilta Cage. You can use the Batery Baseplate fixed directly to the bottom of the camera without the cage. It provides 7.4v and 12v outputs.

With a fully charged pattern NP 970 7800 mAh battery using the 7.4v output I am getting 1hr 35mins of continuous 4k Prores recording to the external SSD.

 

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40 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

You can get a female to mini XLR male adapter here (they have mislabelled the picture in the listing).

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20pcs-lot-KL-Mini-Xlr-Male-to-3-5mm-1-8-Mini-Female-TRS-Audio-Adapter/32544035870.html

Unfortunately the minimum order is 10 pieces but I suppose it means you would always have spare ones handy !

 

if someone wanted to do a group buy and resell one they didn't need on ebay and add a couple of dollars for postage i'd be in on buying one

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1 hour ago, ah5168 said:

Pictures of the Tilta F970 Battery Baseplate fitted to the Tilta Cage. You can use the Batery Baseplate fixed directly to the bottom of the camera without the cage. It provides 7.4v and 12v outputs.

With a fully charged pattern NP 970 7800 mAh battery using the 7.4v output I am getting 1hr 35mins of continuous 4k Prores recording to the external SSD.

That's a pretty tidy setup considering how many things are there..  cool :)

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2 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

You can get a female to mini XLR male adapter here (they have mislabelled the picture in the listing).

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20pcs-lot-KL-Mini-Xlr-Male-to-3-5mm-1-8-Mini-Female-TRS-Audio-Adapter/32544035870.html

Unfortunately the minimum order is 10 pieces but I suppose it means you would always have spare ones handy !

 

Great! Ordering now. Will let you guys know once they arrive if anyone else needs one. 

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I talked today with the official reseller.

Most pre-orders will be serviced until the end of April, and after that they will have a normal flow of cameras. They told me that if I pre order today, they estimate I will have the camera before June.

I think I will do it.

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1 hour ago, Kisaha said:

I talked today with the official reseller.

Most pre-orders will be serviced until the end of April, and after that they will have a normal flow of cameras. They told me that if I pre order today, they estimate I will have the camera before June.

I think I will do it.

quite a few  people in the bmp4k facebook page are getting theirs. Either bm ramped up production or everyone in the factory is finally back from holidays. I suspect that maybe production might have been a bit  slow while they sorted some minor issues out. haven't heard of anymore battery doors issues. although i have seen someone get one with the buttons upside down a couple of days ago.

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2 hours ago, MeanRevert said:

Great! Ordering now. Will let you guys know once they arrive if anyone else needs one. 

Make sure you triple check with that supplier that it is the right one in terms of gender on the mini XLR end as the listing and the image match but as I say the caption on the image is wrong.

They also have a listing for the female ended one that as with that one shows the correct product but with the wrong name on the image.

At least they are consistent with their mislabelling but its worth checking !

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I have Blackmagic Cinema Camera as a saved search on my eBay page just in case a Micro or Pocket pops up really cheap and I’ve noticed a significant increase of P4Ks being listed.

So preorders must be filling up pretty quickly now. I guess some people are going to get stuck with 10 P4Ks they won’t be able to sell for a steep profit... lol. 

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18 minutes ago, mercer said:

I have Blackmagic Cinema Camera as a saved search on my eBay page just in case a Micro or Pocket pops up really cheap and I’ve noticed a significant increase of P4Ks being listed.

So preorders must be filling up pretty quickly now. I guess some people are going to get stuck with 10 P4Ks they won’t be able to sell for a steep profit... lol. 

Yes, still a wiser choice to wait on that preorder

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1 hour ago, BTM_Pix said:

Make sure you triple check with that supplier that it is the right one in terms of gender on the mini XLR end as the listing and the image match but as I say the caption on the image is wrong.

They also have a listing for the female ended one that as with that one shows the correct product but with the wrong name on the image.

At least they are consistent with their mislabelling but its worth checking !

Thanks for the reminder. Waiting to hear back from them! 

6 hours ago, Anaconda_ said:

There's a Mysterious new update that came out today:

What's new in Blackmagic Camera Setup 6.2.1

What's new for Pocket Cinema Camera 4K

Improved stability for future software updates

No new features in 6.2.1 for other camera models.

Get it here: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/ 

I'm thinking this is to fix the problem with the last setup in that windows users couldn't install 6.2 update without that workaround. 

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5 hours ago, Kisaha said:

I talked today with the official reseller.

Most pre-orders will be serviced until the end of April, and after that they will have a normal flow of cameras. They told me that if I pre order today, they estimate I will have the camera before June.

I think I will do it.

If somehow may help, P4K is already at disposal in Hungary.... (Shop price is about 1500-1550e, if you manage to get back tax, about 1200e)

https://www.gaia.hu/blackmagic-design-pocket-cinema-kamera-4k.html

4 hours ago, mercer said:

I have Blackmagic Cinema Camera as a saved search on my eBay page just in case a Micro or Pocket pops up really cheap and I’ve noticed a significant increase of P4Ks being listed.

So preorders must be filling up pretty quickly now. I guess some people are going to get stuck with 10 P4Ks they won’t be able to sell for a steep profit... lol. 

For new project with my engagement, listening my advice head of production already invested in 2 second hand BM micro cameras :)

(As you know, their image is unbeatable...)

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37 minutes ago, anonim said:

For new project with my engagement, listening my advice head of production already invested in 2 second hand BM micro cameras :)

 (As you know, their image is unbeatable...)

I loved my time with the Micro. Being an FCPX user, it was great having those ProRes files to directly import into FC. Unfortunately, I was an early adopter so there weren’t many options for rigging and being a run and gun, hobbyist filmmaker... it just wasn’t practical. Now there are way more options, I even noticed that Fotga recently released a cheap, little 5” monitor that has LUT support and the ability to power the camera... it takes Sony NP batteries. So needless to say, if I come across a Micro for the right price, I’ll surely buy another. 

Heck, even the Micro Studio 4K now exports a Raw signal through its SDI and could be a great little camera to pair with an external recorder. 

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9 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

They just send me the official offer 1.750+VAT and a peli style case (worth 90-95€) as a sweetener. Yeah, I am doing it!

 

I don't understand why price in Greece is so high, being in EU (and so close) as Hungary?

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