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7 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Which Kinefinity model?
VS Terra 4K?
Crop factor is 1.0x

The 4K

When I had a quick demo of it they were saying it was "around 1.75" and the KineEnhancer mount would take it to "around 1.4".

Seems that info was a bit rough as I've just seen it specced as 1.85 and 1.3 respectively.

What confuses me then is why the UK distributor sells what they refer to as a "Full Frame Package". 

https://www.proav.co.uk/kinefinity-terra-4k-ef-full-frame-package#specification

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2 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

What confuses me then is why the UK distributor sells what they refer to as a "Full Frame Package". 

https://www.proav.co.uk/kinefinity-terra-4k-ef-full-frame-package#specification

Well that is odd, but in the specs they're on the money:

 

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Camera Type: sub-S35mm Film-Style Digital Cinema Camera

Imaging Sensor4K sub-S35mm Format CMOS
Crop factor over FF: 1.85

 

1 minute ago, BTM_Pix said:

I'm going to cancel my pre-order today.


For the BMPCC4K?

57 minutes ago, Savannah Miller said:

This thread has gotten out of hand because there's nothing new to say about the pocket 4K.  No footage, no nothing, so people instead have started to argue about other things.

Got to keep ourselves busy somehow while we wait!

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'EF Full Frame Package' -> 'EF Mounting Adapter with Kine Enhancer' -> 'KineEnhancer turns Kine camera from S35 to Full Frame camera (Very closely) and increase maximum iris to One f-stop when using Full Frame EF lens' -> 'Crop factor to: 1.1 when using on the TERRA 5K/6K, Crop factor to: 1.3 when using on the TERRA 4K'

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Didn't pre-order the BMPCC4K. See no point in doing so. Atleast with Panasonic you might get a freebie or something (battery grip, V-LOG L activation). I'll just get one from the first store that has stock. Easy as that. Still quite excited for it, because the results from the original were awesome, it just wasn't very practical to use. This one seems to be... but indeed let's first wait if the results come close to the high expectations the first iteration has set. Sure hope they're able to pull of that thick lushious gradable filmic look with that Blackmagic mojo we've come to love.

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43 minutes ago, sanveer said:

Is there a particular reason for this?

I don't actually need it until 2019 and even then it might not actually be the right fit for what I'm going to be doing. 

Fotokina may also have given me pause for thought.

Plus, I can see it potentially being a time drain during the early months and I would rather observe that from the sidelines. 

 

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5 hours ago, Cinegain said:

'EF Full Frame Package' -> 'EF Mounting Adapter with Kine Enhancer' -> 'KineEnhancer turns Kine camera from S35 to Full Frame camera (Very closely) and increase maximum iris to One f-stop when using Full Frame EF lens' -> 'Crop factor to: 1.1 when using on the TERRA 5K/6K, Crop factor to: 1.3 when using on the TERRA 4K'

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Didn't pre-order the BMPCC4K. See no point in doing so. Atleast with Panasonic you might get a freebie or something (battery grip, V-LOG L activation). I'll just get one from the first store that has stock. Easy as that. Still quite excited for it, because the results from the original were awesome, it just wasn't very practical to use. This one seems to be... but indeed let's first wait if the results come close to the high expectations the first iteration has set. Sure hope they're able to pull of that thick lushious gradable filmic look with that Blackmagic mojo we've come to love.

EF Full Frame Package'  Fake News. What a misleading joke. Gee my APSC camera REALLY is a FF camera. Man did I get off cheap.

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5 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I don't actually need it until 2019 and even then it might not actually be the right fit for what I'm going to be doing. 

Fotokina may also have given me pause for thought.

Plus, I can see it potentially being a time drain during the early months and I would rather observe that from the sidelines. 

 

Hmmm ... the BEST thing about the BMPCC 4k is actually the price. Maybe battery life gets much better with an accessory (that perhaps dds other features including a cheap and ergonomic SSD option.

I guess you may be right about Vlackmagic ironing out issues with firmware as people start testing the cameras. And I guess with better innovation and more features, come more noticeable issues.

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38 minutes ago, sanveer said:

Hmmm ... the BEST thing about the BMPCC 4k is actually the price. Maybe battery life gets much better with an accessory (that perhaps dds other features including a cheap and ergonomic SSD option.

I've got no issue with lashing together a battery solution and there are enough CFast to SSD converter options out there now to sort that out fairly inexpensively.

I'm going to swap pre-orders with a mate of mine where I have it for the first two weeks so I can test it with my controller and then hand it over and take his place in line to give me some pause to see how it shakes out but also what happens at Fotokina.

I've obviously got a big investment in Nikon glass for work so I need to see what if anything they come up with in Cologne and how soon it will be available.

39 minutes ago, sanveer said:

 

I guess you may be right about Vlackmagic ironing out issues with firmware as people start testing the cameras. And I guess with better innovation and more features, come more noticeable issues.

I don't necessarily think its nailed on that they are going to have a load of issues but I'm way too far behind with all my other projects to get involved in the hand wringing and witch hunts about them if there are ;)

 

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32 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

I'm going to swap pre-orders with a mate of mine where I have it for the first two weeks so I can test it with my controller and then hand it over and take his place in line to give me some pause to see how it shakes out but also what happens at Fotokina.

I didn't realise that photokina is in the same month as the proposed/ promised released of the BMPCC 4k. That would be interesting ... 

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7 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I don't actually need it until 2019 and even then it might not actually be the right fit for what I'm going to be doing. 

Fotokina may also have given me pause for thought.

Plus, I can see it potentially being a time drain during the early months and I would rather observe that from the sidelines. 

 

I guess what is confusing people is none of that requires an alarmist post.  I thought you had some new information.

There hasn't been any game changing new information in months.

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54 minutes ago, Damphousse said:

I guess what is confusing people is none of that requires an alarmist post.  I thought you had some new information.

There hasn't been any game changing new information in months.

Apologies to anyone I may have inadvertently alarmed.

I have absolutely no new information about any announcement or development that will unduly impact any purchasing decision anyone may have over this camera.

I have simply decided it is no longer suitable for the purposes for which I, personally, had intended to use it.

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