jase Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Here my first actual piece i shot with the filter. I have to admit that I am quite pleased! Cosimo murgolo and kidzrevil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 Looks great jase well done :) The filters don't nnecessarily increase DR but they do make the tonal gradation much smoother and more film-like. I love it. I should be doing my first narrative piece with it next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Acuña Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Wow, I really like the results of this filter, It looks very filmic, I think I'll take it for my GX7. Do you think DR is improved with this filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 To be honest: I dont know. A couple of observations: - if you look closer, you will see that blurred background tend to look noisy when FilmConvert is used. - focusing is a bit harder due to lower contrast - Focusing without a hood got much harder in direct sunlight; i really need an EVF. Maybe I will upgrade to GM5. Since I am a frequent reader here at EosHD, i am infected with a constant GAS. However, when editing a new shot, I am still amazed by the quality of this combination (I only shoot 720p@50fps!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I just ordered one of these to try instead of the Ultra Contrast (because it was so cheap) on my shiny new GH4: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001U8885U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AJ1X1FSMF7YWQ They are a combination of the UltraCon and Tiffen's Digital Diffusion FX (which reduces digital sharpness a bit). I got grade no.4, because they didn't have grade 3. I hope 4 isn't too strong. Presumably the effect on contrast will be the same as the Ultracons. Tiffen official info: http://www.tiffen.com/pressreleasehdtvfx.html I'm really looking forward to giving it a try. I think the Ultracons are a great find for Panasonic cameras in particular, because they completely negate the over-sharpened, contrasty, "videoy" look they are always getting accused of having. They make MFT glass much more attractive to me now as well. The other thing I'm wondering - and think I'm seeing in the videos posted here (which look awesome btw ) - is, as well as increasing 'perceived' dynamic range (not real DR though) and improving highlight rolloff, do the ultracons not also dispense with the dreaded Lumix shadow-noise problem to some degree? I assume that because they effectively put more light into the shadows, the sensor isn't having to go so close to the noise floor. Of course you can always pull these 'brighter' shadows down in post to get more contrast, but the noise won't be there so much. Am I right about this? Doesn't this make these filters more useful than, for example, a flat profile or log curve, which uses the sensor to put more brightness in the shadows? Macroblocking won't be improved much though I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Sounds great Matt, cant wait to see your results! I have to admit that I find myself watching the footage with the filter quite often. It looks beautifully (to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 The Ultra con gives a softening effect on its own due to the way it softens the tonal graduation. I'm not sure if it needed to be combined with a digital diffusion. I think the filter does increase DR in the highlights a little, along with the overall effect of making them roll off more nicely. You won't notice much difference in noise levels. Yes it lifts shadows a little but you're still shooting into underexposed areas and you'll continue getting noise regardless. For what it's worth, the noise (especially in 4k) should be very fine. EDIT: Hmm actually I just did a little test and you're right. The filter lifts shadows enough that you don't have to lift them in camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Here is a 2015 test comparing different strengths of Ultracon, low con etc... Some of the filters look drastic, but If you open multiple browser windows side x side and pause the test on Clean, Ultracon, lowcon etc.. you can make a better comparison. Keep in mind small vs large viewing screens and different focal lengths change the strength of a filters look. I use Schnieder Digicon a bit, as it lowers highlights by adding black specs in the filter. As you can see in the test, it is almost like an optical log. I also have used Hollywood Blackmagic to take the digital edge off, but it isn't included in the test. Curious how it compares to Glimmer Glass? http://vimeo.com/116316115 Inazuma and dahlfors 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 That's really great, thanks for sharing. I might have to get that nude filter. Could be good for Panasonic cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I have this beautiful filter for sale due to lens switch. The version I got is the tiffen ultra contrast 3 (52mm). Anyone interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I have this beautiful filter for sale due to lens switch. The version I got is the tiffen ultra contrast 3 (52mm). Anyone interested?How much do you want for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I always struggle looking at footage and wondering if it came from a choice of filter used or if he is just a good colourist?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Making your struggle even more difficult: Tiffen has software that simulates most, if not all, of their filters in a plugin. IronFilm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Ha!! So why buy the filters? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Because that is like having a bag of M&Ms and then empty it out over a glass, with some of the M&Ms missing the glass completely and fall on the floor and say 'look, now they're in the glass'. No, they aren't, not all of them. Just effin' great. I was looking forward to eating those, but I ain't eating 'em offa this floor!Better to deal with things before they get captured, rather than the notorious 'fixing it in post'. jagnje 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagnje Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 hahha nice comparisonthe details that are not captured just simply aren`t there...no plugin filter can recover what isn`t there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Rather yet, instead of recovering, it's destroying. Apply some filter afterwards and they remove details that were there... which truly is a sin.But then again. It's just for simulating purposes, so you kinda get the general idea of what these filters would be doing. IronFilm knows that. So I guess, it's all good. Just not to give the wrong impression to newbies reading along that such a thing might just be an idea grandioso to actually implement in an editing workflow. Unless you want to pimp out some quick screengrabs for sharing on your Facebook page... then by all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Forsman Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I have a 77mm set of 3 Tiffen UltraContrast filters, in strengths of 1, 3, & 5. Happy to sell to anyone interested. I love the look but have moved to vintage lenses that are already low contrast. The 5 in particular is great at lifting shadows when shooting at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Policar Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I have a 77mm set of 3 Tiffen UltraContrast filters, in strengths of 1, 3, & 5. Happy to sell to anyone interested. I love the look but have moved to vintage lenses that are already low contrast. The 5 in particular is great at lifting shadows when shooting at night.How much would you want for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Forsman Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 They'd be $265 USD new from B&H. So I'd take $200 for them. They're in excellent shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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