jgharding Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 If this model retains at least a decent 10-bit 4K mode of some description, and vlog, well Canon could be a little sore after the R5 debacle 😅 https://www.l-rumors.com/confirmed-panasonic-will-soon-announce-the-new-s5-entry-level-full-frame-l-mount-camera I do wonder what this means for a GH6, if there is still one in the works or if full-frame is pretty much the Pana roadmap now... All the S5 needs really is to be a lighter, stabilised run and gun with their solid 150mbps 4k 10-bit and it'll sell a bunch. ntblowz and karin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Really curious what the price will be, the 20-60mm is perfect for travel and vlog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beritar Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, ntblowz said: Really curious what the price will be, the 20-60mm is perfect for travel and vlog. Yes very good little lens, far cheaper and lighter than 10-25mm F/1.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 2020 and Panasonic still hasn't sorted out their af smh chadandreo, arson519, Geoff CB and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Hollman Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 If this camera has PDAF it has a chance in the consumer market. If not then it will be a hard sell I think. TSV, tyger11, arson519 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Isnt the S1 the entry level ff camera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Yep, if it has 4K 60p 10 bit internal, PDAF and not crippled elsewhere, this particular Panasonic Pony of Hope could be interesting. No PDAF though and see ya. tyger11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 This could very easily turn into another G100 level blunder 🤦♂️ tyger11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Well... if they release this lower-end camera, then they better start releasing their less expensive (f/1.8) lenses to go along with it. I don't know which market they are going to target with it though. Primarily a stills camera? A true hybrid? A vlogging camera? tyger11 and noone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mark Romero 2 said: Well... if they release this lower-end camera, then they better start releasing their less expensive (f/1.8) lenses to go along with it. I don't know which market they are going to target with it though. Primarily a stills camera? A true hybrid? A vlogging camera? They’ve put themselves in a box. I doubt it having better specs than S1 if it’s suppose to be entry level. FF 4K60p is a stretch unless they also add it via firmware to S1. Affordable L mount Lenses are still limited. They just released a “vlogging” camera that nobody really likes or wants. I have no clue why they are releasing a new model. Unless it’s a GX style FF camera, which would be appealing to some. Mark Romero 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadandreo Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Matt Hollman said: If this camera has PDAF it has a chance in the consumer market. If not then it will be a hard sell I think. This Mark Romero 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Video Hummus said: They’ve put themselves in a box. I doubt it having better specs than S1 if it’s suppose to be entry level. FF 4K60p is a stretch unless they also add it via firmware to S1. Affordable L mount Lenses are still limited. They just released a “vlogging” camera that nobody really likes or wants. I have no clue why they are releasing a new model. Unless it’s a GX style FF camera, which would be appealing to some. I agree with your points (not that you need MY validation or anything... just saying your are spot on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I'm going to assume that this will be much more of a photo-centered camera. This is fine with me as that's what I'm actually hoping for: a smaller L-Mount camera (550-650 grams) with at least 24-megapixels that can be my main photo camera, and then leave the S1H (and/or S1) as the main videocamera. BUT, if they can get me at least 10-bit 422 4k up to 30fps, it would be GREAT as a b-cam to the S1H. Hope it takes the same batteries as well, but that may be hard with a smaller size. Also hoping this will be a GX8 style rangefinder camera. --- Pretty crazy that we went from the Panasonic S1 being the ONLY 10-bit 4k full-frame camera and ONLY 60fps 4k full-frame camera in the mirrorless world, and now with R5, R6, and A7sIII, that has become commonplace. Which leaves me hoping that this may outshine the S1 in video specs (or at least match it), as Panasonic can't afford to lag behind in specs as that is where they have historically been better than the competition (along with reliability, build quality, colors, IQ, features (timecode, waveforms, etc), and so much more). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Spec leaked Same spec as S1, but with smaller evf (2.36mil dot) Got Vlog Size is between R and A7, weight is similar to gh5 AF in slowmo up to 150fps, 180fps is MF only https://photorumors.com/2020/08/14/panasonic-lumix-s5-mirrorless-camera-leaked-specifications/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, ntblowz said: Spec leaked Same spec as S1, but with smaller evf (2.36mil dot) Got Vlog Size is between R and A7, weight is similar to gh5 AF in slowmo up to 150fps, 180fps is MF only https://photorumors.com/2020/08/14/panasonic-lumix-s5-mirrorless-camera-leaked-specifications/ It's even smaller and lighter than the GH5, and it still retains "Contrast AF system DFD technology". Which means it's a cheaper S1, with the same features and lower resolution EVF (?) , and a few corners cut. Which isn't so bad. No wonder the Panasonic guys found the overheating issue on the R5 (and R6?) difficult to digest. Hopefully Panasonic hasn't forgotten the M43 lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timotheus Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Can we call it a fullframe GH5? Or is it missing some other pro things? It has 10 bit, 60p, timecode, LUT assist, waveforms... teleconversion modes too! Size is in the Z6, a7iii, R6 range. But (much) better video features. Except AF of course... Price will be important, as will availability of more affordable native glass. The new zoom is a good start. Now some compact F1.8 or F2 primes would be welcome. tyger11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, sanveer said: Hopefully Panasonic hasn't forgotten the M43 lineup. Yeah, tiny bit worrisome they are releasing yet another FF camera that has a hard time competing at all. Same with the G100. Like, wtf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Timotheus said: Can we call it a fullframe GH5? Or is it missing some other pro things? It has 10 bit, 60p, timecode, LUT assist, waveforms... teleconversion modes too! Size is in the Z6, a7iii, R6 range. But (much) better video features. Except AF of course... Price will be important, as will availability of more affordable native glass. The new zoom is a good start. Now some compact F1.8 or F2 primes would be welcome. Missing the ALL-I Now if Sirui can release their Anamorphic lens in L mount that would be perfect. A small compact portable anamorphic setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 It can do internal 4K60P in 10bit 420 HEVC, which S1 is only 420 8bit internal in 4K60p. PannySVHS and tyger11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Sheesh, Panasonic should give the S1 a free update with the codec and recording options of the S5. Otherwise it feels pretty phoney. At least the VLog 10bit update should be free of cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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