liork 128 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 And the 6DII sensor has a low dynamic range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolf33d 706 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I can't believe they are serving the 6DII sensor in this camera. This company will never stop to disappoint. A $200 APSC Nikon D5200 has better DR and produce better landscape photos than this. That's insane, really insane. They just have to put a decent sony-like sensor in their cameras and give decent specs like 4K no crop (like ALL FF mirrorless manufacturers in the world do except them) and people would be all over Canon. Every body out there no exception would buy Canon if they matched A7III specs even for more expensive because everybody agree their ergonomics is better. Yet ergonomics is not all. At the end of the day if I have the best body and menus in the world to output a 1.7 crop wobbly image at this price then I have got nothing. Yet they prefer to release garbage and only retain some of their users, with 80% of Sony/Nikon users laughing at them. Can't understand this company. kaylee and Mako Sports 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mako Sports 505 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 hours ago, wolf33d said: Can't understand this company. I mean don't act suprised. noplz, sandro and mkabi 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BasiliskFilm 79 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Looks like it is the 6DII - with a Digic 8 rather than 7, so that might help a bit. But latest spec rumour seems to have lost the 4K prediction... Looks like Canon has a surprise up its sleeve again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiago Rosa-Rosso 73 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 No one appreciates the art of recycling. Everyone just wants the brand new. This planet has finite resources. Not only that but most of the rare ore (coltan and other rare metals) are dug by little African children. Even Andrew can recycle is own 6d articles and save some hard disk. https://www.eoshd.com/2017/06/canon-6d-mark-ii-codec-worse-old-6d-lower-bitrate-no/ PS: There is some irony here. Because Canon doesn't give a shit about who dugs their coltan, but none the less aren't we a bit spoiled? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebrothersthre3 1,231 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiago Rosa-Rosso said: No one appreciates the art of recycling. Everyone just wants the brand new. This planet has finite resources. Not only that but most of the rare ore (coltan and other rare metals) are dug by little African children. Even Andrew can recycle is own 6d articles and save some hard disk. https://www.eoshd.com/2017/06/canon-6d-mark-ii-codec-worse-old-6d-lower-bitrate-no/ PS: There is some irony here. Because Canon doesn't give a shit about who dugs their coltan, but none the less aren't we a bit spoiled If Canon was reusing their parts to produce cheaper cameras than competition I guess I wouldn't mind . Are tech is off the backs of the poor though undeniably. We'd not all feel as rich as we do if we were paying for american union labor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socs 9 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tiago Rosa-Rosso said: No one appreciates the art of recycling. Everyone just wants the brand new. This planet has finite resources. Not only that but most of the rare ore (coltan and other rare metals) are dug by little African children. Even Andrew can recycle is own 6d articles and save some hard disk. https://www.eoshd.com/2017/06/canon-6d-mark-ii-codec-worse-old-6d-lower-bitrate-no/ PS: There is some irony here. Because Canon doesn't give a shit about who dugs their coltan, but none the less aren't we a bit spoiled ha ha. true. got have that new new. One thing that intrigues me about the eos rp is that it's light, and potentially can fit on the webill lab gimbal with the 35mm easily (6dii works with the pancake 40mm on the webill). waiting to see if it has clog though. so upside is it's light, but downside also is it's light, meaning it won't be as stable for handheld as the 6d and might have to stay on the webill all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebrothersthre3 1,231 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, socs said: ha ha. true. got have that new new. One thing that intrigues me about the eos rp is that it's light, and potentially can fit on the webill lab gimbal with the 35mm easily (6dii works with the pancake 40mm on the webill). waiting to see if it has clog though. so upside is it's light, but downside also is it's light, meaning it won't be as stable for handheld as the 6d and might have to stay on the webill all the time. how could the EOS M50 have clog but not this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Collins 432 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 This looks like a decent and sensible release by Canon. The smallest, lightest and cheapest FF mirrorless on the market - will probably sell really well. Bit confused what lenses you would put on this beyond the 24-105. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mako Sports 505 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: how could the EOS M50 have clog but not this M50 has C log ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebrothersthre3 1,231 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Mako Sports said: M50 has C log ?? Opps I'm wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JurijTurnsek 212 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Haha, yeez - when Sony was doing their small and light bodies everybody went ape-shit about lens-body balance and now it is a selling point. The naming scheme remains a mystery and Canon sure does know how to ugly cameras. Also, remember how Canon announced that they are moving R&D to industrial markets Anyway, it will sell well, (the lower the price, the greater the volume) but where are those budget lenses to pair it with? Hopefully, Sony et al. will be forced into a pricing battle and consumers win. Mako Sports 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mako Sports 505 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, JurijTurnsek said: Haha, yeez - when Sony was doing their small and light bodies everybody went ape-shit about lens-body balance and now it is a selling point. The naming scheme remains a mystery and Canon sure does know how to ugly cameras. Also, remember how Canon announced that they are moving R&D to industrial markets Anyway, it will sell well, (the lower the price, the greater the volume) but where are those budget lenses to pair it with? Hopefully, Sony et al. will be forced into a pricing battle and consumers win. History repeats itself, same thing with dual card slot issue on Gen 1 and 2 for Sony FF's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tweak 448 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I don't mind the look of these Canon cameras. I'd agree they aren't special or ground breaking but I prefer how they look to Sonys A line (ergonomically speaking they also look superior to me without having tried one). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DBounce 1,273 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, tweak said: I don't mind the look of these Canon cameras. I'd agree they aren't special or ground breaking but I prefer how they look to Sonys A line (ergonomically speaking they also look superior to me without having tried one). Handling with the Canons is great. They are quick to get up to speed and get the shot. I think this new camera has a place... not something I’m personally buying into. I want something with 1DXMK2 levels of performance with a modern video codec. tweak 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tweak 448 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, DBounce said: Handling with the Canons is great. They are quick to get up to speed and get the shot. I think this new camera has a place... not something I’m personally buying into. I want something with 1DXMK2 levels of performance with a modern video codec. I'm looking to replace my 5Dmkiii, I use it every so often for jobs (my main work is video though). This new camera entices me because it's so light and since I'm always travelling with a ton of stuff if it can do what the 5Dmkiii can do in a smaller, lighter package (plus as a C cam, or extra interview cam with 4K) I'd consider getting it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mokara 0 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 23 hours ago, BasiliskFilm said: Looks like it is the 6DII - with a Digic 8 rather than 7, so that might help a bit. But latest spec rumour seems to have lost the 4K prediction... Looks like Canon has a surprise up its sleeve again. Performance wise it is likely to be similar to the M50, just with a larger sensor and the new mount. The low price probably means that it lacks the dedicated processor that handles focusing in the prosumer models, so my guess is no DPAF in 4K mode. 9 hours ago, tweak said: I don't mind the look of these Canon cameras. I'd agree they aren't special or ground breaking but I prefer how they look to Sonys A line (ergonomically speaking they also look superior to me without having tried one). It is lighter than the A7 cameras, so probably it is built of less sturdy materials. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbro 1 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I just realized; Canon is going to release a relevant camera body, the day after I die. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Members BTM_Pix 5,638 Posted February 7, 2019 Super Members Share Posted February 7, 2019 54 minutes ago, Snowbro said: I just realized; Canon is going to release a relevant camera body, the day after I die. From RP to RIP then. Snowbro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaylee 1,339 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 what was the first full frame mirrorless camera that did video without a crop? a7s? how long ago did that come out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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