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2 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

People tend to forget when this same camera outcome didn't exist at all for any price actually... Nothing at all.

Closer only into the $100,000 realm without mention studio recorder and player to add a post production suite, to double or triple the investment.

I am done with so picky and uneducated complaints. People need to get scope before start shooting without perspective.

Well of course. I don't think the body being cheap is uneducated though. You could take bodies in the same price range that are much nicer.

But yes its a revolutionary camera.

You can say the same about the GH5 though or the Fuji XT3 etc...

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27 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Well of course. I don't think the body being cheap is uneducated though. You could take bodies in the same price range that are much nicer.

But yes its a revolutionary camera.

You can say the same about the GH5 though or the Fuji XT3 etc...

Sure, even though fair reports on lack of reliability for X-T3 should concern much more than plastic because it doesn't look like very likely PRO... Sigh : )

I am a PRO because that's what I proudly do for living from a plastic camera !

This even makes me a better PRO... LOL

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The image is there. Definitely. Good ISO performance too. We all are going to buy one. This is going to be a standard in our trade, either as A, or B, or special cam, or whatever. Also one can adapt whatever lens, so anything is possible. With 1500 total money you have everything you need.

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3 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

Sure, even though the XT3 reports on lack of reliability should concern more than plastic because it doesn't look like very likely PRO... Sigh : -)

I've heard reports of Canon and Sony cameras dying abruptly too. I am not really worried though. I always bring back ups in case of such a thing.

I've heard of RED cameras abruptly going bad, its just the nature of tech IMO. If you really need 100% reliability you just have to be prepared for such a break down. I guess its always possible that your main camera and 2 back ups all break down, but its a freak of nature.

I'll definitely be getting the BMP 4K though I feel like it will be outdated in a short period of time. I guess that is the case with all cameras though.

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8 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

I'll definitely be getting the BMP 4K though I feel like it will be outdated in a short period of time. I guess that is the case with all cameras though.

Funny, I think exactly the opposite. This camera is already outdated from the scratch... Remember, it is MFT : D Well, to my eyes otherwise, it will be much hard to be beaten. To take the previous example(s), not even when BMD will launch a substitute ; -)

8 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

I've heard reports of Canon and Sony cameras dying abruptly too. I am not really worried though. I always bring back ups in case of such a thing.

I've heard of RED cameras abruptly going bad, its just the nature of tech IMO. If you really need 100% reliability you just have to be prepared for such a break down. I guess its always possible that your main camera and 2 back ups all break down, but its a freak of nature.

I never had a single problem with Panasonic gear BTW...

I guess that's why I don't mind to be called a Panny fanboy : -D

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32 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

Funny, I think exactly the opposite. This camera is already outdated from the scratch... Remember, it is MFT : D Well, to my eyes otherwise, it will be much hard to be beaten. To take the previous example(s), not even when BMD will launch a substitute ; -)

I never had a single problem with Panasonic gear BTW...

I guess that's why I don't mind to be called a Panny fanboy : -D

I was as well but I left as Auto focus wasn't good enough for me. Their bodies were really great though. Can't beat the feel and size of the GH5. The GH4 was really nice too. 

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6 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

The new updates definitely seem a lot better then before. Still can't compare with Sony or Fuji unfortunately. Its the old contrast detect system.

Source for (verifying) such bold statement? ; )

Prejudice?

It can even be true but what do you or we know on the subject matter?

I can't compare them... Can you?

Where's a fair comparison? And you or anyone else will be able to shut fanboys mouth then... ; -)

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2 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

Really? So now prejudice or theory beat practice? Since then?

 

Post it, publish your findings or they are just coming from your keyboard. This applies from mine or someone else's as well : -)

None of the tests I've seen show auto focus that compares to Sony or Fuji. So there is no reason to believe a contrast detect system is going to magically beat systems that have inherently superior hybrid contrast/phase systems in them, especially in low contrast or back lit situations.

The last firmware I had on my GH5 was a lot better, usable at least. But its way behind the fuji.

Its not prejudice. A system with only contrast detection is lesser technology then one that has both.

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12 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

None of the tests I've seen show auto focus that compares to Sony or Fuji. So there is no reason to believe a contrast detect system is going to magically beat systems that have inherently superior hybrid contrast/phase systems in them, especially in low contrast or back lit situations.

The last firmware I had on my GH5 was a lot better, usable at least. But its way behind the fuji.

Its not prejudice. A system with only contrast detection is lesser technology then one that has both.

And today? ; )

Well, 2 million dollars won't make that 100 bucks dinner less expensive than your million... ; -)

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8 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

And today? ; )

Well, 2 million dollars won't make that 100 bucks dinner less expensive than your million... ; -)

There is such a thing as a logical assumption. The XT3 has better high speed video then the GH5 or S, so I am content regardless.

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3 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Nothing against. Let's put our money where evidence is, though : ) I'd sincerely appreciate to see AF comparatives. People talk, talk but from theoretical presumptions... Facts are beyond that.

Sure, if someone shows the GH5 beating an XT3 or A7III I'll believe it. However just because panasonic releases a new firmware addressing auto focus doesn't automatically make me think its now operating as well as the two previously mentioned cameras. They've already made like 3 firmware updates addressing auto focus. 

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19 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Sure, if someone shows the GH5 beating an XT3 or A7III I'll believe it. However just because panasonic releases a new firmware addressing auto focus doesn't automatically make me think its now operating as well as the two previously mentioned cameras. They've already made like 3 firmware updates addressing auto focus. 

Indeed. Even though the results I've seen they have impressed me. They should be working hard to address the issue, isn't it? No GH5 here now. It only remains my four G7 units, so I am unable to see by myself. Hey, I am a believer, though! : -)

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Very well @andrgl, it is the second time at least (I only recall my positive remark on Sareesh aka wolfcrow you certainly don't share) you downvote me from your customary reaction towards some members over here when you don't like anything, so I suggest you spill the beans this time...

I am all ears to see your visual : D and factual evidence that we can't have hope on Panasonic firmware updates or you will only downvote me once again instead...?

LOL : )

 

PS: Because if it is for my OT discussion with @thebrothersthre3 once you've downvoted his entries as well or you are virgin over there as we all : -D let me remind you something to our -- mine and his defense in behalf of the fact that P4K is the resurrection of MFT to mismatch the Northrup's death proclamation ; ) I see nothing but useful to not presume the Queen of the format (GH series) is already outdated. Even Fuji's for its price range and segment, let alone questions on reliability and so on, they also converge to be related to this new Pocket 4K camera, obviously (just my 2 cents, fellow : -)

 

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Has anyone tried out the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 g2 with the BMP4K? Looks like the perfect combo for handheld stuff to me. I came across some footage a while back and it didn't look like there was much lens breathing either (sorry footage link lost at the moment).

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