Geoff CB 1,424 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: Good news Geoff!! So the F mount adapter is pretty good then? Do you have the 58mm F1.4G? The adapter is better than I expected, because of the wide Z-mount the adapter slopes towards the lens, makes it seem very very sturdy. It was clearly designed to be on the camera for extended periods of time. My voigtlander lenses were recognized and stabilized through the mount, which is very nice. I tried the 58mm on it, creamy stabilized goodness . AF wasn't silent but usable with shotgun I think, smooth. Unfortunately we were not allowed to keep the footage or images we shot Also tried the Sigma 105mm 1.4. That is a insanely large lens. Not a fan of it. It did not focus well with the adapter. For still it was barely usable, video was a no-go. Seems native Nikon glass works the best. Wish they had it, but was unable to try out the 105 1.4 Nikon. Simon Young 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Collins 431 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Simon Young said: This german speaking dude has done the most extensive testing of the Z7 so far. He put the camera to work during two weeks. The talking head part in this video is shot with the S-lens, 35mm at f2.0. Focus sticks to his face like glue. It’s shot without an ND filter, hence the wonky motion cadence, in auto white balance and standard color (not flat). He says he prefers the Canon and Fuji skin tones but that the Nikon is probably more accurate but that this footage might look strange because he’s very sunburnt after climbing mountains in Switzerland. He’s praising the view finder and the lcd-screen, very responsive it seems, but he’s not too keen on the size of the house (too small) the size of the glass (too big albeit very sharp) and he’s very disappointed that there are no separate video settings - it’s cumbersome to constantly change exposure settings manually between video and stills. Other than that he overall thinks it’s a very fun camera to use, but in the end suggests those who are not invested in the Nikon system to wait for next generation. Looking at the 'mode dial' on the Z7, I see there are U1, U2, and U3 available for custom settings. So presumably it is easy to say set one for 4k video and one to 1080 slo mo. Then it becomes easy to switch between stills and video. hansel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hansel 60 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Has anyone seen a test of ibis in combo with VR of AF-S lenses? I can’t find any... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Andrew Reid 10,136 Posted September 16, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted September 16, 2018 On 9/14/2018 at 11:57 PM, Geoff CB said: The adapter is better than I expected, because of the wide Z-mount the adapter slopes towards the lens, makes it seem very very sturdy. It was clearly designed to be on the camera for extended periods of time. My voigtlander lenses were recognized and stabilized through the mount, which is very nice. I tried the 58mm on it, creamy stabilized goodness . AF wasn't silent but usable with shotgun I think, smooth. Unfortunately we were not allowed to keep the footage or images we shot Also tried the Sigma 105mm 1.4. That is a insanely large lens. Not a fan of it. It did not focus well with the adapter. For still it was barely usable, video was a no-go. Seems native Nikon glass works the best. Wish they had it, but was unable to try out the 105 1.4 Nikon. Looks sweet with that tiny Voigltander. I would rather shoot with this any day than a Pocket 4K. What do people think the audience notices most - full frame look, or raw? I'd say, if you're good at grading LOG, they'll notice the full frame look more. So why go through the pain of shitty battery life, limited ergonomics and missing EVF on the Pocket when you can get a Z6 at around the same time for $700 more? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nikkor 886 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Looks sweet with that tiny Voigltander. I would rather shoot with this any day than a Pocket 4K. What do people think the audience notices most - full frame look, or raw? I'd say, if you're good at grading LOG, they'll notice the full frame look more. So why go through the pain of shitty battery life, limited ergonomics and missing EVF on the Pocket when you can get a Z6 at around the same time for $700 more? If active D-lighting works in 10bit it could be pretty impressive... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mercer 4,154 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Raw is unnecessary for 95% of the people on here... as is ProRes really. IBIS is definitely a more relevant feature for a videographer. With that being said, I’d love for one of the major manufacturers to license ProResLT, I just watched a few videos online from the Ursa Mini 4K, since it can be had for about the same price as a kitted P4K, and the ProResLT videos looked amazing... for web consumption at least. Since ProRes is less processor intensive than an h.264 codec, it would have been a great move for Canon if they are indeed having heat dissipation issues. To add, I am very intrigued with the Z6 and the 10bit external. I’m probably going to pick up a BMVA this Fall, for a project, does the Z6 output 10bit 1080 as well, or is it just 4K? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Andrew Reid 10,136 Posted September 16, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted September 16, 2018 Yes would be great to have 10bit ProRes LT 422 with LOG on a mirrorless camera. Unless you're a PC user. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebrothersthre3 1,231 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 How is the 120fps? Better then Panasonic and Sony or no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff CB 1,424 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 32 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: How is the 120fps? Better then Panasonic and Sony or no? Looked very good on the back of the camera, but I couldn't take it off the card so can't make a call on quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebrothersthre3 1,231 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Geoff CB said: Looked very good on the back of the camera, but I couldn't take it off the card so can't make a call on quality. Ah darn. Personally I don't think full frame or raw matters to audiences. The real question is if you need RAW for your project or if you need full frame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Calabros 226 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I'm sure you guys can grade better, but I loved the footage https://vimeo.com/290295765 Geoff CB, Castorp, Emanuel and 6 others 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Young 211 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Eric Calabros said: I'm sure you guys can grade better, but I loved the footage https://vimeo.com/290295765 That’s fucking crazy and might have stopped me from buying the x-t3 Castorp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timotheus 146 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 This shot... Simon Young, Castorp and Geoff CB 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Ash 109 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Eric Calabros said: I'm sure you guys can grade better, but I loved the footage https://vimeo.com/290295765 looks pretty good,says all night shots recorded at ISO 8,000 and above handheld at F1.4-F1.8, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff CB 1,424 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Timotheus said: This shot... Really interested if that was shot with LOG or Nikon FLAT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nrubloc 32 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 It appears more like HDR video that was derived from N LOG than just Nikon FLAT, at least in relation to the screen capture of the lake shown above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Towd 78 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Eric Calabros said: I'm sure you guys can grade better, but I loved the footage https://vimeo.com/290295765 That's some impressive looking footage, but there looked to be some serious stuck white pixels in the night shots. I hope they get that ironed out in the final version. It's such a PITA to have to kill those in a lot of shots. Giving me flashbacks from the 5DmkII. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronFilm 4,075 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, Towd said: That's some impressive looking footage, but there looked to be some serious stuck white pixels in the night shots. That was specifically mentioned in the notes of the video by the uploader, that he had some stuck pixels but that is because he had a very early pre production model. So this is of no great concern to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Castorp 119 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Eric Calabros said: I'm sure you guys can grade better, but I loved the footage https://vimeo.com/290295765 It looks incredible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Towd 78 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, IronFilm said: That was specifically mentioned in the notes of the video by the uploader, that he had some stuck pixels but that is because he had a very early pre production model. So this is of no great concern to me. There is a lot I like in what I'm seeing with this camera. And the skin tones look pretty solid in torchlight and daylight. Hopefully the rolling shutter isn't too bad even if it takes going to the crop mode to control it. I just absolutely hate dealing with stuck pixels. So hopefully you are right and it will be fixed for the final release. Just something that really popped out to me even if it was being shot at high ISOs. I may wait until I see some more tests before pulling the trigger. But nice to see some Z6 footage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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