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2 hours ago, kye said:

I think screens are an impossible challenge.  You either build it so it tilts up and down or so that it flips out and then tilts.  There are pros and cons to both designs, and neither design helps that much in bright sunlight.

I've had times when the flippy screen on the GH5 was a PITA because I wanted to tilt it up but didn't want to basically double the width of the camera.  Other times I've appreciated the fact I could angle the screen more than facing directly up or down, and occasionally I've used it in selfie-mode.  I also routinely use the EVF because it's not bright enough for full sun.

I am 100% fun of the tilt up and down design. You can work high or low and maintain a very good balance to work with. For me that is solved.

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I like the pictures. A lot.  This camera will probably replace the micro cinema camera for me as it’s not much bigger and is much easier to work with.  I didn’t feel as strongly about the 4K

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2 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I've probably said it before but whoever makes an HDMI input version of this tiltable EVF will make a fortune.

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Yup, I was searching for a small, hdmi evf for ages the first time I bought the Micro. A small handgrip, a tiny evf, a native m4/3 lens and the Micro would be the tiniest workhorse Cinema Camera around.

 

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4 hours ago, mercer said:

Yup, I was searching for a small, hdmi evf for ages the first time I bought the Micro. A small handgrip, a tiny evf, a native m4/3 lens and the Micro would be the tiniest workhorse Cinema Camera around.

 

Its a pity Sigma haven't done it for the FP as the loupe is an OK solution but adds such a huge bulk to the overall package.

Olympus used to make the older Leica one but I don't know who makes this newer one. 

The guess, of course, would be that its their good friends Panasonic which begs the question why they don't offer it for their own cameras.

 

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11 minutes ago, kye said:

Not to mention that a touchscreen interface becomes somewhat useless.

Now you're just being picky :)

The FP has enough dedicated buttons outside the screen edge to operate it effectively to be fair but even so a flip up option for the loupe would still be welcome.

 

48 minutes ago, independent said:

I remember there was a lot of excitement on here about that EVF when it was about to be announced but a lot of deflation when the price was revealed as it was twice what was anticipated.

Its a well specced unit and a good price relative to others in that sort of market though.

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3 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I remember there was a lot of excitement on here about that EVF when it was about to be announced but a lot of deflation when the price was revealed as it was twice what was anticipated.

Its a well specced unit and a good price relative to others in that sort of market though.

The 1920x1080 viewfinders are pricey. The Blackmagic is $1500 and the Zacutos are about $2000. If this one was a little less expensive, they would probably sell very well.

If you want to give yourself a heart attack (or a good laugh) go to B&H. Search for "electronic viewfinder", then sort by price from High to Low. There are some *crazy* expensive ones out there.

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7 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I remember there was a lot of excitement on here about that EVF when it was about to be announced but a lot of deflation when the price was revealed as it was twice what was anticipated.

Its a well specced unit and a good price relative to others in that sort of market though.

While this is of course true, speaking in terms of relativity; I could either buy this EVF, or another P4K for the same(ish) price. And I know which route I'd go. 

I personally don't even feel and EVF is strictly necessary. I've shot with the P4K in very bright sunlight, and while it was a little challenging, it was far from impossible and I got great results. Here's a couple examples, both shot with no external batteries, monitors, hoods etc. Just the camera and 14-140mm Pana lens. Here you can see by the shadows that I'm on the sunny side of the street.

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And here, there are no shadows, which shows the screen would have been hit by direct sunlight. 976198835_ScreenShot2019-07-19at08_20_54.thumb.png.8f23dcac416347e4dbc695a3c7e439ae.png

(Grabs are off YoutTube, so anyone looking for blue sky funniness, it's on compression not the camera)

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33 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said:

While this is of course true, speaking in terms of relativity; I could either buy this EVF, or another P4K for the same(ish) price. And I know which route I'd go. 

Yep, I think thats exactly where the relativity bit hard with the Portkeys!

Even with the red dot premium, the Leica one is under £400 so it should be possible for someone to bring one to market with the additional electronics and powering for that sort of price which I think makes it a different proposition.

Nice shots by the way.

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12 minutes ago, MeanRevert said:

Wow, what a development!  Does the unit have a follow-focus gear to integrate with manual focus lenses or does it only work with Panasonic/Leica lenses?

It works with any native MFT lens and EF lenses on a Metabones smart adapter.

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2 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

It works with any native MFT lens and EF lenses on a Metabones smart adapter.

Knowing how much better the native lenses autofocus, I suspect the performance is much better when not using adapted lenses.

5 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

It works with any native MFT lens and EF lenses on a Metabones smart adapter.

By the way, is the communication two-way? I mean, if I select a focus point using the touch screen, are you able to use that information with your focus system to maintain focus?

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5 minutes ago, drm said:

Knowing how much better the native lenses autofocus, I suspect the performance is much better when not using adapted lenses.

Its manually autofocusing (as contradictory as that sounds) so the behaviour is different to the internal one shot AF.

 

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