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After flip flopping about buying it for myself and my freelance work, i   spoke to someone at the production house I work at very regularly, and they bought it through the company. 

Best of both worlds I guess 😂

I'm taking it home this weekend to get it set up for them.

 

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1 minute ago, Anaconda_ said:

After flip flopping about buying it for myself and my freelance work, i   spoke to someone at the production house I work at very regularly, and they bought it through the company. 

Best of both worlds I guess 😂

I'm taking it home this weekend to get it set up for them.

 

Best of both worlds indeed 🤣

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1 hour ago, Anaconda_ said:

After flip flopping about buying it for myself and my freelance work, i   spoke to someone at the production house I work at very regularly, and they bought it through the company. 

Best of both worlds I guess 😂

I'm taking it home this weekend to get it set up for them.

 

Good for you. It is going to be the opposite with me.

One of the production companies I work for have JVC-LS300 and GH5 cameras, and I am getting the Pocket (maybe, haven't ordered it yet!).

It is so cheap that there is no excuse for not having one, really. I already have all I need, except the cage and the F battery adapter anyway. I even have mini XLR cables!

You can keep your JVC for almost everything and still buy a Pocket for raw and other experiments. They are both m43 anyway, and probably both need a monitor.

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There are indeed users of the previous micro and pocket cameras that don't like the look of the new P4K since they say that it looks too digital. I have a coworker who keeps on debating with another coworker (who bought a P4K) about the look and 'cadence' of the old Blackmagic cameras. They both produce good footages but at the end of the day, they agree that content still matters.

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The colour and grade on that video looks terrible but maybe that's the 'organic/filmic' look that people want?

I've got the original BMPCC and I liked it a lot but the P4k is better in every way apart from size. The codec ( esp RAW) is so malleable that you can get any look out of it you want as long as you have the grading skills. If these are just limited to slapping on a 'film LUT' then I can see why it may be a disappointment to some people. 

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Yeah and I F ing hate Slo Mo Stuff. It is so stupid how often it is used. And what is crazy the footage still looks like shit in slo mo. I can't imagine how it would look in a normal speed all jerky, shaky wise. This Run n Gun crap is just that, crap footage. Buy a damn tripod. Sure for vacations and home use yeah, but for something half serious, no way.

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it is in the public domain. It can be criticized, but personally I am referring simply to the slo mo situation.

I am editing a few small pieces right now (rendering brake) for a client, and one of the videos is 98% slo mo (and the rest 2% fast forward pseudo-time lapses)! I have to do what I have to do!

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2 hours ago, mercer said:

To be fair, the filmmaker didn’t ask for his work to be posted here and torn apart.

your right of course, however once something is posted to the internet, be it here or another forum or youtube it does tend to get critiqued regardless of original intentions.   the internet with its anonymity does tend to bring the best out in those people who engage their mouth before putting their brain into action.  sad but true . personally i think the internet word for 2019 should be " RESTRAINT "  that and a bit less red cordial would make for a much nicer internet experience , but i'm not holding my breath

i think the slomo stuff is a bit of a fad, people are a bit enamoured with it at the moment and i don't mind it, if its not overdone. but i'm thinking it may take awhile to die down to a more normal level

4 minutes ago, anonim said:

I suppose to may guess answer, but still have to check: does anybody know if somewhere in UK Pocket4K is in stock for immediately buy?

if it is they should immediately ship it out here to fill my back order 😀

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5 minutes ago, leslie said:

if it is they should immediately ship it out here to fill my back order 😀

I see... so community of disappointed P4K buyers and fond lovers of previous BM color science looks pretty small or timid!

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14 minutes ago, anonim said:

I see... so community of disappointed P4K buyers and fond lovers of previous BM color science looks pretty small or timid!

not sure what you mean ?  but i do believe those that have paid for their cameras should receive them before their available to go and buy of a retail shelf . otherwise how is what you want to do any different from some obnoxious person running to the front of a line at a supermarket ? although its safe to say bm logistics are a little screwed up anyway

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@leslie I'm referring to clip above and its creator who entitled his work "Why I sold my P4K"... I mean, I asked not (just) for new camera from the store, but more if someone by chance saw it on some hot auction in UK. One friend of mine is there at the moment, so...

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4 minutes ago, anonim said:

@leslie I'm referring to clip above and its creator who entitled his work "Why I sold my P4K"... I mean, I asked not (just) for new camera from the store, but more if someone by chance saw it on some hot auction in UK. One friend of mine is there at the moment, so...

ah sorry,  somehow i didn't join the dots correctly. now that you clarified your situation  i can see where your coming from 😳

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On 1/4/2019 at 9:30 PM, anonim said:

 

 

On 1/4/2019 at 11:15 PM, anonim said:

Interesting different (reverse) acquisition approach :)

 

 

So many good cameras out there..  When I watched the GH5s vs P4K video I was more impacted by the slight changes in focus between the two cameras instead of the cameras themselves, which is in the skill department not the equipment department.  

I remember someone (@kidzrevil perhaps?) speaking about the Resolve Super Scale feature and how great it is, so that's something that might breathe new life into lower-resolution footage.  More info: https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/resolve-15-super-scale-feature/

In terms of using slow-motion, I would suggest it's a new genre of film-making.  Like all genres it will have fans and critics.  Personally, I agree with @mercer around testing a camera by actually making a short film.  That way, not only do you test the equipment by using it how you would on a real project, but you also get a real short film at the end of it, which is what all this fussing with cameras is ultimately for, right? 😆

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6 hours ago, kye said:

...which is what all this fussing with cameras is ultimately for, right? 😆

Unfortunately, I'm not (ultimately) in that camp... As far as I can recognize it, for me all this fussing with cameras has, at the end, two - strangely  and maybe interestingly - two complete opposite but convergent goals: escape from loneliness and escape to loneliness - or, better to say, creative solitude.

So, cameras with their specifics for me are ultimately  tools that help me to find a peace in that creative shelter with least amount of distraction. Saying that, with due respect for any camera's combination of virtues and isolated advantages, besides appropriate aesthetic image BM cameras were greatest for me because of providing me the best opportunity to forget to annoying WB set up... As much as GH5 (with help of GHa lut) is greatest for me because of, besides enough appropriate image, provides me the best possibility to forget to annoying antishaking set up. And when I said "aesthetic appropriate image", I mean, of course, to opportunity to dive as much as possible into wonderful solitude world of grading...

... and to wait for someone noble to join me in that world and break my solitude of an filming/dreaming/sleeping beauty (or, well, the pretty ugly beast).

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