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You want predictions, or wishlists? Its a bit early to make predictions I think, assuming it's still two years off. Who knows what could happen with the competition in that time. And hasn't Panasonic stated they'll be 8K-compliant by 2020? That could screw the whole thing up. Nobody wants a 32MP m4/3 camera.

Wishlists are fun though!

-4K60 at 4:2:2 10-bit, with an intraframe option (400-500mbps)

-ability to record four audio tracks, two from the XLR box and two from the 3.5mm jack.

-move both the 3.5mm jacks upward so they don't block the screen.

-a physical lock for the IBIS- a little lever or switch is fine, doesn't have to be servo-operated.

-internal NDs

-tilting EVF with an optional big eyecup

-focus punch-in while recording

-1080p output to the app

And of course improvements to ISO performance, VFR, AF, etc.

 

 

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9 hours ago, JordanWright said:

2 skews? Gh6 Gh6s


I reckon there is a good 50/50 chance that the new GHxS series of cameras is such a small specialised niche that Panasonic won't make a new GHxS camera every time there is a new GHx line up. Instead a generation might get skipped now and then. 

 

4 hours ago, Cinegain said:

Next up: JVC GY-LS500 predictions...


Please please! Got to have 4K 10bit, riiiiight?? Please.
Maaaybe 4K 60fps too. 

Of course from my perspective I very much hope they will bring timecode input to the new JVC cinema camera as well. (as hell, even the GH5S has it! Let's get with the times people)


Seems there is one under development, "something":
 

 

We've discussed this before:
 

 

5 hours ago, aldolega said:

-ability to record four audio tracks, two from the XLR box and two from the 3.5mm jack.


Yes! As it is sad when you use the Panasonic DMW-XLR1 that you lose the stereo 3.5mm input. 

 

 

5 hours ago, aldolega said:

-internal NDs


The old AF100 had it, I reckon would have been nice if the GH5S should have had it too. Even if it meant you'd lose the mechanical shutter, as it is rare a photographer would buy a GH5S anyway.

 

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With the Tokyo Olympics coming in 2020, seem like a GH6 is a given - along with other Panasonic cameras likely to get updated before that event. I'd imagine the G9 successor would drop as well since its their fast photo body. PADF seems like a given if you're going to be shooting sports, I'm really surprised we haven't seen a hybrid AF camera from Panasonic to this point since it'll take time to refine the algorithms in real world shooting conditions. They're really behind the curve compared to Canon and Sony and falling further behind with each new DFD release.

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11 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

15 stops dynamic range in raw video. Dual Pixel AF. Multi-aspect ratio sensor (1.86x crop in Cinema 4K). V-LOG built in as standard.

No stills camera does 15 stops, asking the GH6 to do that is a bit much.

11 hours ago, OliKMIA said:

8K 120 fps in 10 bits HDR internally in ProRes or Cineform
15 stops of dynamic range
16 bits sensor
Super clean ISO 25,600
Better IBIS
DPAF
$999
Anything else?

 

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3 hours ago, Trek of Joy said:

With the Tokyo Olympics coming in 2020, seem like a GH6 is a given - along with other Panasonic cameras likely to get updated before that event. I'd imagine the G9 successor would drop as well since its their fast photo body. PADF seems like a given if you're going to be shooting sports, I'm really surprised we haven't seen a hybrid AF camera from Panasonic to this point since it'll take time to refine the algorithms in real world shooting conditions. They're really behind the curve compared to Canon and Sony and falling further behind with each new DFD release.

If you're referencing photo stills, the benchmark really is Nikon for sports AF. I haven't tried a D5, but the D500 is really amazing.

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5 hours ago, leeys said:

If you're referencing photo stills, the benchmark really is Nikon for sports AF. I haven't tried a D5, but the D500 is really amazing.

For DSLR's yes, Nikon is tops. But IMO the benchmark is really the A9, which in many cases outclasses even the D5 (accurate AF-c and no blackout at 20fps). So we're also talking about a new stacked sensor with a readout rate capable of far more in terms of speed than the sensors Panasonic is currently using. Relying on Sony for top spec tech seems unlikely, they must have something else in the works. Either way, A9 or D5 - it doesn't really matter, Panasonic just needs a dramatic overhaul of its AF system since by 2020 we'll also have a D6, a slew of Canon's with DPAF and more A7's and A9's - along with new offerings from Fuji, Olympus and so on. 

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13 minutes ago, AaronChicago said:

Realistic next steps would be 6K (maybe 8K) up to 30fps. Internal ND. 4K 120fps. They can't really cannibalize their cinema line (EVA1, VariCam) so I highly doubt they're going to add a sensor that is better than those 2. Unless by that time their cinema cameras have all new sensors.

Well, technically Gh5 already does 6K anamorphic.... so really we would be looking for 8K anamorphic in the next gen.... BUT, can you really compress 32+ MP into a micro4/3 sensor?

Hopefully, they can move to an S35 sensor, may be slightly smaller like the Canon APS-C 1.6 crop to accomodate the mft mount.

And, if they go to 8K anamorphic, then 6K up to 60p and 4K 120fps (may be higher? 180fps or 240fps). 14 bit or I will settle for 12 bit 4:4:4 

Dare to dream guys.... dare to dream... and always dream BIG. The sky is not the limit for me, shoot for the moon and if I hit a satellite - its still above the sky right? 

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The GH5s and the JVC GY-LS300CH seem to have highlighted 2 fundamental facts about the M43 system.

1. That the sensor size is small, whereas tbe mount isn't much smaller than Super35 size. 

2. The design of M43 sensors could be larger, especially if they do not have IBIS (such as in the GH5s). Also, since video requires wide aspect ratios such as 16:9, the area around the sensor could be extended to cover a larger sensor (like Super 35 for example), much closer to the electronic contact points on the camera. 

I am suddenly wondering whether Panasonic should have fit a Super35 sizes sensor into the GH5s, like the one fit into the JVC GY-LS300CH which has a M43 mount, since the chances of people using it for photos would be much less? That could have provided significantly more pixels that mattered, and a noticeably larger sensor than M43. Also, since there isn't any IBIS, the larger sensor could have translated into even larger pixels. 

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