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8 hours ago, Video Hummus said:

400Mbps is 50MBps so a V60 card should cover it having a minimum write speed of 60MBps.

The Sony Tough cards are quality.

He also doesn’t have to shoot 400 All-I if it’s just a person talking to the camera unless he just wants performance benefits of editing an ALL-I source.

Thanks it seemed like it would be okay, but I figured it was better to ask people who have a GH5.

He wants to shoot in the highest quality mode in VlogL. He thought he needed V90 cards, which as you know are pretty expensive.

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42 minutes ago, Video Hummus said:

What do you do with your A6500?

I’m a hobbyist and use it for a wide variety of things. These days mainly just for personal projects such as travel/vacation videos, nice looking family videos etc. I don’t have any pressing needs but like to make films for fun. I have used it for documentary/short videos professionally. I might invest in a cage/top handle/usb battery bank soon to give it a final stand but the rolling shutter just kills my unsteady hands. I don’t like the idea of using a gimbal. The gh5 appeals to me over the a6500 for the unlimited record time, good battery life, log profile, and really good ibis. However I’m also thinking about maybe sticking with the Sony and upgrading my lens lineup instead. We shall see

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22 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I’m a hobbyist and use it for a wide variety of things. These days mainly just for personal projects such as travel/vacation videos, nice looking family videos etc. I don’t have any pressing needs but like to make films for fun. I have used it for documentary/short videos professionally. I might invest in a cage/top handle/usb battery bank soon to give it a final stand but the rolling shutter just kills my unsteady hands. I don’t like the idea of using a gimbal. The gh5 appeals to me over the a6500 for the unlimited record time, good battery life, log profile, and really good ibis. However I’m also thinking about maybe sticking with the Sony and upgrading my lens lineup instead. We shall see

If you decide to switch to Panasonic, you can save some money and get the G9. It has better IBIS than the GH5 but a lot of the same features as the GH5 (10-bit, VLogL, waveform monitor, etc...) since the FW update.

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1 hour ago, mercer said:

If you decide to switch to Panasonic, you can save some money and get the G9. It has better IBIS than the GH5 but a lot of the same features as the GH5 (10-bit, VLogL, waveform monitor, etc...) since the FW update.

I had no idea! I’ll check it out 

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On 12/30/2019 at 8:09 AM, mercer said:

My friend got a GH5 for Christmas and he isn't sure what card he needs for the C4K 400mbps all-i... will V60 U3 cards work?

He's looking at this card...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1512108-REG/sony_sfm128t_t1_sf_m_series_tough_uhs_ii.html

FYI - he shoots narratives, so he'll need continuous recording for dialogue scenes.

Just make sure it's a UHS-II card. I've got the SanDisk Extreme 90MBps which can do the data rate easily but isn't UHS-II so won't do that mode.

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1 hour ago, kye said:

Just make sure it's a UHS-II card. I've got the SanDisk Extreme 90MBps which can do the data rate easily but isn't UHS-II so won't do that mode.

Whatever card he buys the most important rating on it is the "V"(ideo) rating which specifies the minimum sustainable write speed, which as you can imagine, is very important for video. Cards that ha e 95MB/s or even 300MB/s ratings on them with no V30/60/90 rating are advertising the burst write speed.

But yes, he should pick up UHS-II V60 cards from a name brand (ProGrade, Sony Tough, Sandisk).

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4 hours ago, Dustin said:

I’m a hobbyist and use it for a wide variety of things. These days mainly just for personal projects such as travel/vacation videos, nice looking family videos etc. I don’t have any pressing needs but like to make films for fun. I have used it for documentary/short videos professionally. I might invest in a cage/top handle/usb battery bank soon to give it a final stand but the rolling shutter just kills my unsteady hands. I don’t like the idea of using a gimbal. The gh5 appeals to me over the a6500 for the unlimited record time, good battery life, log profile, and really good ibis. However I’m also thinking about maybe sticking with the Sony and upgrading my lens lineup instead. We shall see

I think the only thing that will be disappointing to you with the GH5 is the autofocus. Its useable in certain situations but entirely unreliable. Levi Allen (search him on youtube) shoots many of his vlog stuff (I would recommend watching his Road to Alaska series) with the GH5 using the autofocus. It's good, but if you demand 95% accuracy, it won't give it to you (neither will the EOS R, really.)

I would always recommend sticking with whatever you have, because you can make great stuff with it regardless.

But as Mercer said above, the G9 is fantastic now with the new firmware and the Vlog-L upgrade. The autofocus is also much improved over the GH5 and the IBIS is absolutely excellent.

It's was under 1K on B&H as well for the holiday but now its back to 1,200.

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1 hour ago, Video Hummus said:

 

I would always recommend sticking with whatever you have, because you can make great stuff with it regardless

I think it this is it for me. Might just need to rig it a little heavier. Going to rig it out and see if some of my woes don’t go away

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19 hours ago, kye said:

Just make sure it's a UHS-II card. I've got the SanDisk Extreme 90MBps which can do the data rate easily but isn't UHS-II so won't do that mode.

Thanks, he decided to be cautious and go with V90 cards.

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On 12/31/2019 at 10:01 AM, Video Hummus said:

Cards that ha e 95MB/s or even 300MB/s ratings on them with no V30/60/90 rating are advertising the burst write speed.

Not necessarily.  I just tested my Sandisk Extreme Pro C10 V30 U3 95MB/s and it tested at 85MB/s read and write, with a 5Gb file size and being almost full (which decreases performance - the BM app warned me that the test would be affected).  400Mbps is only about 50MB/s which the card can easily do, but the reason that the GH5 won't do the 400Mbps All-I mode is because the card isn't UHS-II.  I think that might be a limitation of the GH5 and how it writes to the card perhaps, but I'm not sure.

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It just happens that that the V60 is only on UHS-II cards, so it's the right advice, but I bought my card on the basis that it could handle the bitrate, but it turns out there is more to it than that, because on bitrate alone my card would be V60 comfortably and almost V90.

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21 minutes ago, Adam Kuźniar said:

Bros, I need a pill.. I'm getting the full-frame good autofocus sickness and I'm browsing used a7 3s :(

Man up. Get yourself a p4k and a couple of vintage lenses. ?

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On 1/2/2020 at 8:36 AM, Adam Kuźniar said:

Bros, I need a pill.. I'm getting the full-frame good autofocus sickness and I'm browsing used a7 3s :(

Best approach is to work out what you’re missing and then either fix that or give yourself a reality check..

For example, if you’re chasing good autofocus then you should consider why you need AF in the first place, and if using a deeper DoF would fix it, for example.  The reality check is to assume you just bought an A7iii, so just donate $4K to charity to simulate the financial hit of being locked into the Sony lens rort, then take all your 10-bit footage and batch convert it to 8-bit and apply a sickly green WB to simulate the experience in post.

There’s currently no FF camera that can do everything the GH5 does without giving up something.  Even the S1H (which won’t fix your AF envy) will still hit the CC pretty hard and IIRC is bigger and heavier than the GH5.

The grass always looks greener, but often it tastes just as bad, but in a different way.....

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On 1/4/2020 at 1:34 AM, kye said:

The grass always looks greener, but often it tastes just as bad, but in a different way

You're completely right and I've decided I need to borrow one from a friend, shoot some stuff and see if it works for me. Not gonna switch because of a feeling ?

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49 minutes ago, Adam Kuźniar said:

You're completely right and I've decided I need to borrow one from a friend, shoot some stuff and see if it works for me. Not gonna switch because of a feeling ?

Good plan.  Please share your findings.  Someone commented in another thread that the transition to 8-bit files wasn't a pleasant one, but then again I see great footage coming from them regularly, so I guess it depends on the situation :) 

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On 7/4/2019 at 3:18 AM, Adam Kuźniar said:

IMO Hue at -1 is the one thing I changed in all of my profiles.

I love your concert image quality. What profile and settings did you use to film it and did you color grade it later, and if so with what LUT?

Thank you. 

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12 hours ago, Rango said:

I love your concert image quality. What profile and settings did you use to film it and did you color grade it later, and if so with what LUT?

Thank you. 

Thanks man! If you're asking about these ones - 

 - then it was HLG with all options on 0 and a quick grade with FilmConvert.

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On 1/17/2020 at 6:19 AM, Adam Kuźniar said:

Thanks man! If you're asking about these ones - 

 - then it was HLG with all options on 0 and a quick grade with FilmConvert.

Yes that Jazz concert. Wow i wasn't expecting HLG, but looks great. And zeros wow. 

So Hue at -1 is for Cine profiles only yes?

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Rango said:

Yes that Jazz concert. Wow i wasn't expecting HLG, but looks great. And zeros wow. 

So Hue at -1 is for Cine profiles only yes?

 

 

 

To be honest with you I only use HLG because it's the highest DR profile besides V-Log which I don't have 😄 I think I'd use V-Log if I had it. HLG has some problems with a weird green cast that.. crap, now that I'm thinking about it I think I did have -1 on hue on that particular shoot because of that, but I went back to 0 because FilmConvert seems to correct it very well.

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