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Andrew,

Jun could also view your comments about him as snide. All because he got a camera, and you did not... It feels like you're jumping to critique all video's uploaded by someone with a Pocket 4K in another attempt to support your stance that BMD is giving cameras to the wrong people.

 

I remember a thread here, some time back where more than a few guys critiqued your color grade on one of your Canon videos, and you responded like you never thought you'd receive criticism.  You have threatened to quit this whole thing more than once, and people have always begged you to keep at it. People are here because they appreciate what you've created, but you pay way too much attention to the negative...  No one can argue the numbers your site gets, but your victim attitude isn't winning.

 

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33 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

I am not slating the guy. K-pop videos are just not my artistic bent. I know it is the Trump-era and people are a little sensitive about criticism just like him. You can't seem to critique the work of someone these days without it coming across as you hating the living daylights of the person who made it. I certainly don't hate.

I just like to think objectively, that something like this from me, aimed at 800,000 camera users, would have been more useful and Blackmagic would have sold more units. But what the fuck do I know?

Maybe it needs more arses?

I like your work. It really doesn't matter what BMD thinks is best for their marketing. Your work can stand on it's own merit, so don't waste time worrying about them. The footage from the new camera is ok. Nothing exceptionally special. At no point did I stop and say OMG... It's Fck!n amazing. Given the lack of AF and low resolution stills, it will remain a niche item.

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32 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

I am not slating the guy.....I know it is the Trump-era and people are a little sensitive about criticism just like him. You can't seem to critique the work of someone these days without it coming across as you hating the living daylights of the person who made it. I certainly don't hate.

This sort of attitude is starting to get on my tits - it's the internet, you post something & you take what comes (the good & the stuff you don't want to hear).

Digital Bolex footage really stands out as something special everytime & such a shame it all went belly up. There is a film on Netflix shot entirely on the DB - "Hashtag Horror" (sorry no symbol for hashtag on my keyboard - fucking macs, suppose apple don't want anyone going on twitter being mean to them!)

When is this camera coming out, so the real tantrums can begin - I need more entertainment on my days off!

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10 minutes ago, DBounce said:

(...) The footage from the new camera is ok. Nothing exceptionally special. At no point did I stop and say OMG... It's Fck!n amazing. Given the lack of AF and low resolution stills, it will remain a niche item.

People are forgetting we are in 2018 now. Those times are gone... : )

It is much more than a 'niche item'...

The one everyone will have if not BMD users/clients yet.

Count on it ; -)

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7 minutes ago, Bioskop.Inc said:

Digital Bolex footage really stands out as something special everytime & such a shame it all went belly up. There is a film on Netflix shot entirely on the DB - "Hashtag Horror" (sorry no symbol for hashtag on my keyboard - fucking macs, suppose apple don't want anyone going on twitter being mean to them!)

Try hitting 'alt' and '3' to get the #

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56 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

I am not slating the guy. K-pop videos are just not my artistic bent. I know it is the Trump-era and people are a little sensitive about criticism just like him. You can't seem to critique the work of someone these days without it coming across as you hating the living daylights of the person who made it. I certainly don't hate.

I just like to think objectively, that something like this from me, aimed at 800,000 camera users, would have been more useful and Blackmagic would have sold more units. But what the fuck do I know?

Andrew, you do often come across as someone who is resentful, intolerant, often spiteful, takes offence easily and with a grudge against the world. 

I think if you were a nicer person, you know, showed kindness, tolerance, humility (unfashionable traits as they are these days), then you might get invited to more events. 

I don't mean that in any kind of snide or sarcastic way. I'm serious.

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BMD is a manufacturer of niche products, and as such must be able to locate where a large bulk of potential (and actual) customers are; so Andrew has a point here, viz. BMD has totally missed a golden opportunity to connect with a large number of potential buyers.

They should take a leaf out of other niche players in the industry: Red has its own forum, and forum members could seek out some senior members who have early access to new models for comments and guidance; by a similar token, PhaseOne has a good and reliable presence in getdpi.

I'm also quite amused at Andrew's reference to Cinema5D. I first came across them when I was going through coverages of trade shows, and their Youtube coverages have been the most cringe-worthy of all, by a country mile. I have come to skip them almost all the time and only watch them if they are the only channel that covers a certain product; this has happened a few times to my annoyance.

Yet I agree with most fellow members here that Andrew should not have published that rant. It doesn't do him much good; but it does enhance my trust in him enough that I've just registered as a forum member and composing my first post. YMMV.

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47 minutes ago, Bioskop.Inc said:

This sort of attitude is starting to get on my tits - it's the internet, you post something & you take what comes (the good & the stuff you don't want to hear).

Digital Bolex footage really stands out as something special everytime & such a shame it all went belly up. There is a film on Netflix shot entirely on the DB - "Hashtag Horror" (sorry no symbol for hashtag on my keyboard - fucking macs, suppose apple don't want anyone going on twitter being mean to them!)

When is this camera coming out, so the real tantrums can begin - I need more entertainment on my days off!

Yeah the Digital Bolex footage was inspirational. THAT camera was in the right hands, absolutely.

I am bored over the over-commercialised, over-stylised trash.

19 minutes ago, Jerome Chiu said:

BMD is a manufacturer of niche products, and as such must be able to locate where a large bulk of potential (and actual) customers are; so Andrew has a point here, viz. BMD has totally missed a golden opportunity to connect with a large number of potential buyers.

They should take a leaf out of other niche players in the industry: Red has its own forum, and forum members could seek out some senior members who have early access to new models for comments and guidance; by a similar token, PhaseOne has a good and reliable presence in getdpi.

I'm also quite amused at Andrew's reference to Cinema5D. I first came across them when I was going through coverages of trade shows, and their Youtube coverages have been the most cringe-worthy of all, by a country mile. I have come to skip them almost all the time and only watch them if they are the only channel that covers a certain product; this has happened a few times to my annoyance.

Yet I agree with most of the fellow members that Andrew should not have published that rant. It doesn't do him much good; but it does enhance my trust in him enough that I've just registered as a forum member and composing my first post. YMMV.

Interesting remarks.

I once shot a video for the DJ Paul Van Dyk and got EOSHD mentioned in the YouTube description. Van Dyk has Millions of followers worldwide. I got like... what... 20 referrals?

It's the RELEVANCE of the audience to the product that matters!!!

22 minutes ago, Kieran said:

Andrew, you do often come across as someone who is resentful, intolerant, often spiteful, takes offence easily and with a grudge against the world. 

I think if you were a nicer person, you know, showed kindness, tolerance, humility (unfashionable traits as they are these days), then you might get invited to more events. 

I don't mean that in any kind of snide or sarcastic way. I'm serious.

This comment is a disgrace. Why do you expect to continue to profit from my site in terms of your camera knowledge, whilst being so personally aggressive?

There is a big difference between critiquing the video of a music video producer on your own forum, to going into his house and calling him a resentful and spiteful person who doesn't show kindness or tolerance.

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21 minutes ago, Jerome Chiu said:

 

They should take a leaf out of other niche players in the industry: Red has its own forum, and forum members could seek out some senior members who have early access to new models for comments and guidance; by a similar token, PhaseOne has a good and reliable presence in getdpi.

Blackmagic HAVE their own excellent forums (at blackmagicdesign.com), and their employees actively comment on different forums.

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16 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

This comment is a disgrace. Why do you expect to continue to profit from my site in terms of your camera knowledge, whilst being so personally aggressive?

There is a big difference between critiquing the video of a music video producer on your own forum, to going into his house and calling him resentful, spiteful and with a grudge against the world.

You see - there you go taking offence again.  I certainly wasn't being aggressive. If calling for tolerance and kindness is an act of aggression, then I guess we should be very concerned about that dangerous Dalai Lama fellow. 

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I have zero to gain by talking to you Kieran. I know a troll when I see one!

@seanzzxx That is true. Blackmagic have their own forum as well, which is good on their part but also reduces support costs maybe? RED also of course have a forum but's not on the official website. Canon don't have anything.

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9 minutes ago, seanzzxx said:

Blackmagic HAVE their own excellent forums (at blackmagicdesign.com), and their employees actively comment on different forums.

That makes their choice of those who were given early access of their new cameras more, not less, mystifying, right?

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52 minutes ago, Kieran said:

 

Try hitting 'alt' and '3' to get the #

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What else are these fuckers hiding from me!

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2 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

I have zero to gain by talking to you Kieran. I know a troll when I see one!

Actually as I said before, I wasn't trying to be snidey but to genuinely help you out. If for example, I was looking to work with a person on a project, my criteria would be have they got talent? - but also - can I get on with this person?

6 minutes ago, Bioskop.Inc said:

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What else are these fuckers hiding from me!

You've always got to hide the hash 😉

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2 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Do I constructively criticize you by starting with a string of insults? No!

I have no public image to cultivate and I'm not interested in invitations to events. You want to be perceived in a certain way. It's important to you to be considered important. I'm just letting you know how you often come across and how that can get in the way of what you want. No malice intended on my part. 

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