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3 hours ago, Kieran said:

Seems legit. They have posted pics on Facebook of their camera setup at the zoo (basically handheld with a Samsung SSD). As well as shots of it on a crane for use in a k-pop music video.

 

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Not to be spiteful, but where's that guy that argued these Samsung SSD's would never work and it was all marketing hype? 😜 But seriously this is very exciting. I'm glad BM sent this out to a regular user to showcase its broad uses.

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Hey Alex, I don't think the DNGs weigh anything, but here are the datarates at 30 frames per second:

4096 x 2160
CinemaDNG RAW - 272 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 3:1 - 129 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 4:1 - 97 MB/s

3840 x 2160
CinemaDNG RAW - 255 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 3:1 - 122 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 4:1 - 92 MB/s

1920 x 1080 (at a 2x crop)
CinemaDNG RAW - 66 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 3:1 - 32 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 4:1 - 24 MB/s

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Can you record CDNG at 3840x2160 and 1920x1080 or it is DCI 4K only?

Cinema DNG is always full sensor or windowed when in that mode.

You cannot record CDNG 3840 x 2160 and 1920 x 1080. Only DCI 4K.

 

by AskBMD on BH page.

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Right off the Blackmagic site. No mention of a 2x crop in 1080p??

Storage Features

Storage Type

1 x CFast 2.0.

1 x SD UHS-II card.

Storage Rates

4096 x 2160
CinemaDNG RAW - 272 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 3:1 - 129 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 4:1 - 97 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 HQ - 117.88 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 - 78.63 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 LT - 54.63 MB/s
Apple ProRes Proxy - 24.25 MB/s

3840 x 2160
CinemaDNG RAW - 255 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 3:1 - 122 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 4:1 - 92 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 HQ - 110 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 - 73.6 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 LT - 51 MB/s
Apple ProRes Proxy - 22.4 MB/s

1920 x 1080
CinemaDNG RAW - 66 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 3:1 - 32 MB/s
CinemaDNG RAW 4:1 - 24 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 HQ - 27.5 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 - 18.4 MB/s
Apple ProRes 422 LT - 12.75 MB/s
Apple ProRes Proxy - 5.6 MB/s
Storage rates based on 30 frames per second

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They're coming thick and fast now:

'Sunset At Changi'

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K
ProRes 422, UHD 4K, 50FPS
ISO 100-200 (the magic hour silhouettes), 400-800 (blue hour), 1600-3200 (twilight and nightfall)
Canon FD 50mm f1.4 SSC lens
Mitakon Zhongyi FD-M43 Lens Turbo II

 

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2 minutes ago, Kieran said:

They're coming thick and fast now:

'Sunset At Changi'

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K
ProRes 422, UHD 4K, 50FPS
ISO 100-200 (the magic hour silhouettes), 400-800 (blue hour), 1600-3200 (twilight and nightfall)
Canon FD 50mm f1.4 SSC lens
Mitakon Zhongyi FD-M43 Lens Turbo II

 

Beautiful piece! Lovely colours and the grain looks 'filmic' enough ;).

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6 minutes ago, Kieran said:

They're coming thick and fast now:

'Sunset At Changi'

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K
ProRes 422, UHD 4K, 50FPS
ISO 100-200 (the magic hour silhouettes), 400-800 (blue hour), 1600-3200 (twilight and nightfall)
Canon FD 50mm f1.4 SSC lens
Mitakon Zhongyi FD-M43 Lens Turbo II

 

This one may be my favorite. The shot at 1:35 looks effin brilliant.

Has there been any word about IR filtration on these videos?

Ha, just realized that’s the shot they used for their thumbnail. 

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3 minutes ago, mercer said:

Has there been any word about IR filtration on these videos?

The guy who shot the Seoul Zoo footage had this to say over on bmcuser:

"I did another shoot yesterday which I'm editing right now. I used Hoya Pro NDs (2-4-6 stops) and I haven't noticed a thing related to IR. Blacks are neutral and clean"

So sounds promising! And yeah, that footage is beautiful.

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4 minutes ago, seanzzxx said:

The guy who shot the Seoul Zoo footage had this to say over on bmcuser:

"I did another shoot yesterday which I'm editing right now. I used Hoya Pro NDs (2-4-6 stops) and I haven't noticed a thing related to IR. Blacks are neutral and clean"

So sounds promising! And yeah, that footage is beautiful.

Thanks. One of these days, after a few more short films, this camera looks like it could be a logical upgrade for me. If I can scrounge the money together I may get it sooner to practice color grading. Being an FCPX user, ProRes is always appealing. 

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2 hours ago, wyrlyn said:

Can you record CDNG at 3840x2160 and 1920x1080 or it is DCI 4K only?

Cinema DNG is always full sensor or windowed when in that mode.

You cannot record CDNG 3840 x 2160 and 1920 x 1080. Only DCI 4K.

 

by AskBMD on BH page.

Except that's completely wrong. You can shoot all resolutions in RAW or ProRes. When they say it always shoots "full sensor" they mean that it's a 1:1 pixel mapping with no super sampling so 3840x2160 and 1920x1080 would be considered "windowed".

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From what I understand, Blackmagic uses the same IR filter in all of their cameras.  If this sensor design is less prone to IR then it will look cleaner than the other cameras, but the Gen4 color science will also help improve the images to.  I feel that whatever IR filter BM uses is just not enough for their sensors and they tended to show a little too much IR compared to the Alexa in similar situations.

With the new Gen4 color science and a stronger IR cut filter like those found in the Rawlite OLPFs will you see too much IR reduction and will the shadows start looking green?

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4 minutes ago, Bioskop.Inc said:

I'm with you there, this shot was great - not too sure about the funky colours for the sunset (colourist's choice).

I think it was a WB choice. I’ve been using cooler WB with my 5D3 and it really seems to help give that more “modern” look.

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44 minutes ago, Kieran said:

They're coming thick and fast now:

'Sunset At Changi'

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K
ProRes 422, UHD 4K, 50FPS
ISO 100-200 (the magic hour silhouettes), 400-800 (blue hour), 1600-3200 (twilight and nightfall)
Canon FD 50mm f1.4 SSC lens
Mitakon Zhongyi FD-M43 Lens Turbo II

 

Awesome.  If that isn't "filmic", I don't know what is - at $1200+.

Excellent clip by the way.

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24 minutes ago, Savannah Miller said:

From what I understand, Blackmagic uses the same IR filter in all of their cameras.  If this sensor design is less prone to IR then it will look cleaner than the other cameras, but the Gen4 color science will also help improve the images to.  I feel that whatever IR filter BM uses is just not enough for their sensors and they tended to show a little too much IR compared to the Alexa in similar situations.

With the new Gen4 color science and a stronger IR cut filter like those found in the Rawlite OLPFs will you see too much IR reduction and will the shadows start looking green?

I’ve seen some videos from Pocket and Micro where one of those cheap Chinese IR Cit filters were used, and perhaps if any is needed, they will suffice. Or maybe Rawlite will produce a sensor specific version for the P4K if one is needed.

31 minutes ago, Snuff said:

Finally, a soft organic picture, but the sun, glare looks overdone. We need to carefully select the plot and shooting parameters to fit into the DR.

 

 

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I think it’s a combo of the SSC FD lens used... the coatings just aren’t as good as even FDn lenses. But if this was Raw, you’d be able to use that Highlight Check box in Resolve’s Raw Tab... that thing works miracles.

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