kaylee

why doesnt canon get this: ill buy both, BOTH an slr AND a cX00 cam, horses for courses, but i need the image to MATCH!!!!!???

thats the most obvious reason id buy into their "system" – i can pick up shots in clog with my 5d4 and match it to their actual video cams with plugs and grown up features

AND the slr shoots stills~! imagine that!!! what a concept

[edit:] addendum: "protecting" other cams doesnt make sense in the same way anymore with a 4k 5d4 and a 4k c100iii on the way. things change, 2016 is half over, lets move forward

12 hours ago, independent said:

In fact, I would spend a few hundred dollars to rent a couple cameras for even a weekend....Have the DP, camera op, DIT, even editor, and of course the director, to figure out what works the best for you guys.

2 hours ago, jax_rox said:

Again, I don't know the local pricing, but most rental houses will allow you take gear for test shoots if you have an existing relationship, or have committed to a long term rental.

lots of good thoughts on cameras, image quality is super subjective so ill leave that alone

rent before you buy! or buy from a place with a great return policy so you have plenty of time to get a feel for the cam  

as promised, i watched your piece again~! my plasma isnt really happy until the sun goes down – its the most reflective surface on earth. its like the opposite of vanatblack

3 hours ago, Liam said:

I hope I don't seem like I'm defending myself on these points.. I do that sometimes. Not helpful, haha

you dont at all. but explaining your point of view in why youre doing things is just as important to ones own personal growth as it is to dialogues like this. and at the end of the day if you do something really great there will always be idiots who level empty criticisms, having the confidence to ignore these slights or defend yourself is part of the job

3 hours ago, Liam said:

great note, I was a little worried about that.. I played both parts (clearly) and dropped the pitch of the guy in plaid just a little. thought it might have been enough, but I'll take another run through to see if I can make it better.. was really worried about doing that in a cartoony way haha

after watching this again i was about to withdraw my statement regarding the voices, or qualify it, and now that i know for a fact that you did play both roles, id definitely say you did well with having them seem like different people – good work. my thought was that they should be more different, in a more iconic way. not a comical way, what you have going is good, but since we dont see the characters faces, re-doing the audio for one character wouldnt involve all kinds of tricky synching... maybe you could have a friend do some voiceover you could edit in. just a thought off the top of my head, but again, after watching it again, i dont think theyre too similar for their own good, id just personally like even more of a dichotomy

4 hours ago, Liam said:

hmm.. I was originally going to have the first guy be leaving a party in the adjacent room, to go to the bathroom (by adding muffled murmurs), to imply the second guy was sitting off by himself, later joined by the first guy, which might better explain his weird music choices?

ok sure. i was thinking that id like the music blended into the voicework more, so its a bit more entangled, sounding more like practical music in the room with them vs. dubbed background audio. but as far as ~what~ it is, like the different styles of music, thats cool but for me at 6:30 it gets pretty trippy. which is a good word to use, like im sensing these guys were on something other than alcohol lol. the conversation takes on a very 5 hour smoke session vibe u kno. but i sense thats kind of what you were going for

4 hours ago, Liam said:

The grain

yeah its definitely getting stepped on by compression, but i guess i just expect to see more noise in the shadows. and maybe a bigger blobbier (lol) grain, that looks more filmic. or no noise, thats a fine option too

4 hours ago, Liam said:

probably the whole point right now is how stupid the conversation is, ha. and the end kind of does justify that in a way I hope? making like the lack of payoff a payoff?

okay great, i kinda figured but i didnt want to say that lol. in that case, i think it should be shorter or MUCH longer. perhaps this is either something digestible that people want to watch in our short attention span culture, or its deliberately the opposite like warhols sleep or andy kaufman reading the entire great gatsby onstage

4 hours ago, Liam said:

more tempted right now to maybe just call this one done and use what I learned on my next film

thats up to you but ill tell you this: the reason my art practice is at such an incredibly advanced point today is because ive LITERALLY PUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF MY OWN WORK IN DUMPSTERS OVER THE YEARS AFTER HACKING THE PIECES APART WITH AN AX

its been a very difficult road. blood sweat and tears. but i am the sum of my parts, and i could never do the things im doing now without doing every single thing in my life that led up to the present

oh and thats just the process of being an artist. its a constant. happens to this day. but now, my "failures" are immediately recycled into a greater whole. it took me a long time to accept this phenomenon, but now i embrace it, and im all the better for it

4 hours ago, Liam said:

thought Madatcha might have been a wrestler. Googled it and everything

thats actually a great wrestler name. im picturing this guy

@Liam! thank you for sharing this

so, first of all, i thought this short piece was pretty good~! therefore let me make it clear that my constructive criticism is just that – youre definitely on to something here, something that needs development and refinement, but thats the life of an artist~! its never ending... and at a certain point you have to put stuff out there, and the people will probably like it more than you do, because theyre way less critical of your work than you yourself will always be! but thats good: when your reach exceeds your grasp, its tough to live, but it means youre growing

my first impression was that i found the way you shot the figures very intriguing, avoiding their heads and faces – not a unique notion, but a seldom used technique. almost reminds me a bit of all the cut aways robert rodriguez was forced to do in el mariachi due to lack of coverage.... which ended up benefitting his production tremendously, and people thought he was a genius for it...and it was in spanish. that helped too. but i digress

anyway, that was cool, and it developed a sense of tension from the very beginning. like, who are these guys, what are they doing? what are they planning? WHY cant i see their faces? there must be something sinister going on~! moreover, that coverage forces the viewer to listen carefully, far more so than they usually would, to get all the information possible out of what the characters are saying. without the infinite subtleties of human facial expressions, we strain to discern that missing information from the dialogue alone, the sound of the voices, the cadence, the emotion or lack thereof. its a fascinating principle

given those points, id suggest a couple things in terms of audio. firstly, it struck me that the voices of the principles are a bit too similar. theyre not identical, but since we dont have faces to associate them with, perhaps pitching one up or down in post could help differentiate the characters on an emotional level, so they seem more like two separate individuals, vs one characters internal dialogue. on the other hand, if youre going for the latter, great, push it that way instead!

additionally, i believe the score would be more effective in this case if the music in the background seemed more like music that the guys are listening to while chatting and drinking some beers, less like dubbed audio. moreover, it could be subtlety manipulated to work better with the conversation – but a random overlay of your music track where youre not ramping it/changing it to coincide with the dialogue could be great too – a bold "element of chance", as duchamp would say, can work wonders

i like the dialogue. i write "uhm"s and "like"s in my screenplays, but i keep it to a minimum, and try to have those pauses and forms of verbal static express a characters difficulty in forming a thought or making a particular point in that moment, describing their emotional state

i like grain/noise for narrative, but in this case i found it a little distracting, notably in the lighter areas of such a dark piece, if the noise was more unified over the entire image that might work better. mind you, its easy to be extra critical of something like that in a piece where we are listening even more than watching, you know what i mean?

last but not least: the content: what is this film about, what happens? like i said, i found the conversation intriguing and interesting from the beginning, but i feel like it needs something of a payoff, a conclusion, a highspot* if you will, something to complete it. i feel like these guys were having an idle discussion which might be leading to some wild action, or at least a resolution to do something extreme – like go on a killing spree. i feel like this is a teaser for something bigger... am i right?

the mention of anxiety and intrusive thoughts is great, subjects that are seldom addressed, americans being on a pharmacy full of [dangerous] drugs is our dirty little secret. id like to see more work that explores those issues – i mean how many people are on SSRIs today, like a billion??

anyway, those are just some of my initial thoughts, im gonna watch it again later tonight. but my biggest point is this: I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE THAT I WOULD CALL TREMENDOUSLY GIFTED FAIL MISERABLY IN MAKING A ~WATCHABLE~ SHORT THAT IS ~AT ALL~ INTERESTING WITH A BUDGET OF $50k OR MORE. Youve already made something that I'd like to see more of, and if this is indeed your first short (!!!), id say youre off to a great start

in conclusion, the salient principle of visual narrative is always paramount: "If its not on the page, its not on the stage"! And there's definitely merit to what youre doing, keep at it!!

Stay strong buddy!!

your pal,

Kaylee ❤️

*pro wrasslin term lol

i think its green. is that lady alive or has she passed away?

42 pages and this thread is one page 

edit: 43 now

this video is private? im signed in to youtube what am i missing here

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

I only use a potato for my filming

i smoked weed out of a potato one time  

6 hours ago, iaremrsir said:

D35

YES!!!!! ?

thats great i love your illustration

ive done that without the belt lol, maybe ill give it a try~!

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?  hakuna matata jfc

38 minutes ago, Nikkor said:

This is why I only trust respected members like myself (509 honor points).

My cameras have 12121 13337 shots.

I know you only have 251 points but I will make an exception, the only problem is that I will have to talk to your husband, father ,brother,cousin or uncle first to finish the deal as in my culture it is not allowed to sell things to women, I hope you understand this and respect diversity.

lmaooooo ? ? ? ? ? ?  omg

me right now

2 hours ago, squig said:

What's the shutter count?

omg ?

this is too funny i just legit spent three hours in traffic to see a 5d3 where the shutter count was a LIE~!!!! dude posted a screenshot of the clicks in his ad and i checked the serial when i got there and it was completely different! and to my face he was like "I dont know anything about that"

!!!!!!! thank you @Hans Punk !!!!!!!

hmm i dont have a monitor to bring but ill connect the cam to a tv or something... excellent points guys thank you.

that smallhd port protector looks official, thank you for the recommendation. ill definitely be picking one up

Thank you @squig!!!!! just who i wanted to hear from  

hi @Kurtisso!

i like both the posts above, and I might expand on those comments, but first: what kind of "storytelling" are you pursuing? are you trying to write short films, maybe a feature? something else? if youre booking professional wrestling im going to give you some very different advice

Guys I need your help!

Im shopping for a used 5d3, and I would really appreciate your feedback regarding some questions I have!

Just a few, here we go:

(1) while many sellers happily provide a shutter count, several people have said when asked that "There is no way to know the true shutter count. You can only tell how many shots were taken since last battery recharge which has nothing to do with actual shutter count", or something to that effect.

What the heck! I thought there were several software tools to determine that info... are they unreliable? Is this pure ignorance, or is there some truth to this? I find it hard to believe that an accurate number of actuations can only be determined by sending the body to Canon.

On the other hand, many sellers have no problem posting screenshots like this

...I'm confused! What's goin on?

(2) Regarding firmware: I'm buying this body to shoot ML raw (exciting!!). It is my understanding that regardless of which version of Canon's firmware is currently loaded on the cam, a *previous* version can be loaded if necessary – is that correct? As a buyer should I care about which firmware is on the camera when I get it? 

(3) This is clearly subjective, but how much do you guys care about minor body damage, scrapes/etc? As long as the body isn't too beat up, it's all good to me, but is there anything in particular I should watch out for? A scratch-free LCD is my only priority I guess... anything I'm overlooking there?

(4) Anything else? – I'm gonna go see the camera in person and have the seller demonstrate the fact that it's working properly, making in focus exposures, etc, before I buy it ...am I forgetting anything? To be honest I have bought and sold like 12 cameras/lenses on craigslist here in southern California over the years, and I've never had any problems, but this is a big purchase for me and a camera which I may have for many many years to come, and I don't wanna screw this up...!

Any and all thoughts on my purchase would be MUCH appreciated. I might pull the trigger on this as soon as Saturday.... wish me luck~!

Thank you ❤️

K

2 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

Definitely to much. I passed on one for $1300 with less than 10k clicks and a battery grip.

omg! i would buy that right this hot second!!!

13 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

They are now way bellow $1.5k and closing in on $1k

wow i wish i could find a deal like that!!! im looking right now. here in southern california people are selling bodies for $1800 with 350k clicks!!! (or at least trying to.) at that price im thinking i might as well get one refurbished from canon for a little bit more, with a warranty... im trying to buy used to SAVE money lol

1 hour ago, fuzzynormal said:

I know that's not true. 

me too wtf

this thread has really devolved smh

btw the shit im doing is 100% earth shatteirng

I called stu maschwitz and he was like ADD A VINGETTE

what a great announcement~!

color looks very promising. additionally these girls look like actual living breathing humans far more than what im used to [from shitty video cameras]

@Liam ive been meaning to repsond to this thread ive just been busy. its awesome to hear what youre working on. you clearly have a lot of fighting spirit – making films is really hard! dont give up. keep doing it

question: are you able to say in a word what your film is like, or what its about...?

my thought is that any kind of cross-promotional marketing you can do might be really helpful. example: the film is about a pro wrestler, so you flyer an indie wrestling show. you get them to post on their facebook. your film is about a skateboarder, so you send the short to famous skateboarders on twitter, and one of them puts it over to his 3.7 million followers

a lot of wise comments above about film festivals and the reality of all that. depends on your goals i guess, as well as your tolerance for paying hundreds of dollars to be ignored lol

anyway, it sounds like you have an accurate, sober view of whats going on, which is more than a lot of people. go get em!!

reading the name of this thread i just realized that slog is a word ?  so perf

slog
/släɡ/

verb
1. work hard over a period of time
"they were slogging away to meet a deadline"
synonyms: work hard, toil, labor, work one's fingers to the bone, work like a Trojan/dog, exert oneself, grind, slave, grub, plow, plod, peg; More
antonyms: relax
• walk or move with difficulty or effort
"he slogged home through the gray slush"
synonyms: trudge, tramp, tromp, traipse, toil, plod, trek, footslog
"they slogged around the streets"

noun: slog; plural noun: slogs
1. a spell of difficult, tiring work or traveling
"it would be a hard slog back to the camp"
synonyms: hard work, toil, toiling, labor, effort, exertion, grind, drudgery
antonyms: leisure

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