kaylee

For what I know, sensor size different ''looks'' come from field of view and depth of field.

here we go again *starts shaking in fear*

We've reached the conclusion some time ago that you can get the same FF look with a s35 camera by using a faster lens to match DOF and wider lens to match FOV. Then the aesthetic and image are identical.

wait. please... im begging you. im freaking out rn. not being ironic here: > does this mean theoretical lenses which dont exist? with wider apertures than they normally have? talk to me like im 4 years old. i feel like i get this if it means, If lenses on my 35mm ff camera had wider apertures, they could give a medium format look for their respective fields of view 

With a Canon/Nikon 50mm F/1.2 you get the same look as a MF 100mm f/2.8 or so

again, please help me understand this. why is this so confusing to me?? ive shot medium format film but it was a looong time ago. today i feel like i have a pretty strong handle of sensor size in relation to depth of field in practice, and maybe this is a more theoretical discussion? like an "all things being equal" comparison??

crying rn bc i feel so dumb  

its an important discussion for us to have

i think that high frame rates suck. ive never watched an implementation of hfr footage that improves the viewing experience for me

nowhere: not in feature films, not in sports, not in porn

it looks like puke. videoey puke. its disorienting and gross. and its tiring to watch

who disagrees? am i wrong?

if so, link me to an example of hfr footage being awesome

please share your results~! i wish more ppl were shooting video with the 5dsr. i want to see more from it

These dam sets have been fitted with a special chip that removes cinematography

lmao p much

the true horror of this whole thing is that ppl buy tvs with this motion smoothing/hfr bullshit turned on, and they never know to turn it off, and so they get used to it, and then when I turn it off for them theyre like 'No we liked it better the other way'

i rest my case~! fantastic im glad youre happy

andrew i agree with the premise of your article: this idea of stills/video "convergence" is just hot bullshit. marketing bullshit.

ykno.... some say that "COLOR" was actually a pretty sexy marketing term back in the 20th century.......

> fun story about "Ks"

when ppl come in my office for the first time, and i know them to be somewhat knowledgable about video, my new thing is to have then sit down to watch "SOME 4K VIDEO ON MY NEW TV!"

i dim the lights and play some clips. i point out the detail... "Do you see all this? Its so clear!" ppl are always amazed

then i tell them that what i said originally was a little misleading... theyre watching 4k video on my 1080p plasma

their reaction is always the same...... a gradual, creeping, soul enveloping confusion

tbh i was gonna make an analogy about jarred land and david miscavige but i decided not to

OH MY GOD

*vintage* jarred/jim right there

whats funny is i bet ppl on reduser see this as camera porn theyre prolly going crazy over it rn

so you would say that the 2008 coloring is better than the original?

i agree!

i find this to be a fascinating example for several reasons; not the least of which is that the recoloring of this comic, The Killing Joke (1988), was done in 2008 by Brian Bolland, the extremely talented man who did the pencils in the first place – the guy who drew it~!

hes no amateur, but he missed the boat here didnt he?

to approach this as a black and white page, like a coloring book, i feel that its a natural first instinct to start coloring things the colors that they are, as seen on the right above and below. but our job is to do more with color... like....... an artist lol

here, commissioner jim gordon is being driven to insanity by the joker. on the left we see what he feels. the page on the right is clearly unemotional and anemic in comparison

now, again, this is a metaphor in more ways than one when it comes to filmmaking, but its a literal point in terms of two dimensional representational imagery

But after a while longer, I began to feel... oppressed by all the imagery. 

fascinating

If you haven't seen it, you can pull up a few minutes online and see what I mean. It can be any few minutes.

i did this, and i gotta say, i found the look of the show – including all aspects of art direction which appear on screen – to be completely forgettable and boring

i watched several different clips from season one and two and my general critique is that color and lighting are not being used dramatically in terms of storytelling in a lot of the shots

dont get me wrong, its clearly technically sound, but its boring

but boring in a very pretty, attractive way, which forces you to look at it more than through it – like a window. and this is a disconnect in terms of immersion and suspension of disbelief – storytelling

in general it also looks too much like crappy-poo reality, which we all know too well

so my assessment is that you would like this show more if color was used in a more meaningful way

let me blow your mind with an analogy:

which is better? why? more here

indeed. and if nikon and samsung get together and have a color science baby... wow. that could be some camera

you can print them as big as you want. its an aesthetic decision.

300dpi is massive overkill for most printing technology _ but that's a major question, ~how~ are they being printed? photo process? inkjet? etc

bottomline you need to make some proofs at different resolution to see what youre satisfied with. 150ppi will likely render more on paper than you think

additionally, you can always up-res your frames to whatever ppi you want, which brings me back to my first statement, that you can make them as big as you want. they wont become ~pixelated~ as long as you up-res them, and the filmy character of your camera will shine though more as they grow in scale 

hi marco~!

my first reaction to those shots was totally positive. saturation is a bit punchy in the latter grabs; i agree with everything Ebrahim said

color on that ungraded frame feels good to me, id say that you can play around with it to taste, i did a bit in photoshop with good results

you dont need any magic grading voodoo~! thats for cameras that are incapable of producing good color in the first place

there are no rules here just do what you like~! i added a bit of contrast and a fair amount of cyan and blue for a more naturalistic look without loosing the warmth of your daughters skin (shes adorable btw) 

although we certainly dont agree on everything, i respect the hell out of quentin for what hes doing with this roadshow release. he should be commended for unearthing this unique aesthetic, and pushing it out to the people

quentin is not a hipster: a hipster is a poser. quentin is profoundly authentic and exactly what he appears to be: hes one of the preeminent auteur directors of his generation, one who is genuinely obsessed with, and reverent towards, the history and art of cinema

fascinating, an example im not familiar with, ill have to look it up~! of course i know what you mean, but would you mind elaborating? youre sayin, they were both shot on alexa with different lenses, yes...? i feel like im missing a bit of your insight 

colors lookin good

blackmagic has made progress

omg cool!! mattias how do you like that crazy thing?? whats it like?

oops sorry mattias i screwed up my quoting. i meant to copy this ^

using your wacom for video editing is fascinating to me, i do it too but i figured i might be like the only person on earth lol

a mouse can be a pain figuratively and literally. i have terrible carpal tunnel/nerve issues partly due to years of using a mouse 24/7 and for me just not doing that is pretty important tbh. my wrist is a hot mess lol. anyway i bet a lot of other ppl here have had issues like that, but have a continued need to work w computers, and anything besides a mouse – touchscreen, stylus, trackpad – is probably going to be way better for you in the long run, sure is for me

i feel you. i hate to say it but tbh i think all the shit tim cook says is a shoot* about them believing in ios and osx being separate companions – like he called surface "diluted" or something the other day? i was like rlly? ppl like that thing

right??? thats my plan for my ipad pro tbh

storyboarding is THE thing that id LOVE to be able to do on a tablet with a screen

i have to storyboard every shot of my entire f------- feature which is pretty challenging – storyboarding is hard

for me, i see everything very clearly in my mind, but theres something about the act of going from words on a page in a screenplay to a sketch that suggests space, camera angles and movement, lens focal length.... 

its like trying to remember a dream where, the more you think about it, the memory of it just disappears

idk if anyone can relate to that? storyboarding deserves its own thread~!

how do you make your storyboards, aarronchicago? stylus? what app? also, as a chicagoan, do you know cm punk and/or colt cabana? and cubs or white sox?

*shoot is a professional wrestling term, essentially meaning real. from wikipedia: A shoot in professional wrestling is any unplanned, unscripted or real-life occurrence within a wrestling event. The name does not originate from "shooting in" for a takedown, as in amateur wrestling, but rather, it is a carny term shortened from "straight shooting" which originally referred to a gun in a carnival target shooting game which did not have its sights fixed (terminology such as this reflecting the professional wrestling industry's roots in traveling carnivals).[1] This term has come to mean a legit attack or fight in professional wrestling and its meaning has broadened to include unscripted events in general. The opposite of a shoot is a work.

i find this very interesting as well...!

thats the advantage of, say, imovie on an ipad pro: its a touch based interface, if thats what youre looking for. v intuitive vs pointing and clicking

but the idea of stylus as a mouse substitution is completely legitimate for most desktop software as far as the existing UI, u kno? 

im really hopeful about the astropad/ipad pro combo. on paper seems like it could work

also fwiw i think that developers will eventually get on the "power apps" for ipad pro bandwagon, simply since apple is encouraging it. but its like a new video game system to write for.... itll take awhile lol. apple is clearly not leading the way by example there

as far as the hard drive... im with you, but dont hold your breath~!  although, as far as speed goes there is this so who knows

im 100% with you that ipad "apps" arent the same as desktop software. i wish they were more competitive, but its nice to see apple moving in that direction.

i dont see the ipad pro as a replacement for anything. im not trynna use mobile apps – even the ones that are part of my CC subscription – to edit photos... ever. like i said, for me, ipad pro w pencil would be a digital sketchbook – which is a huge deal. easily worth $1k to me just for that alone given the alternatives. im not a big iOS fan, but im not a big windows fan either... is there something that im missing about surface? im open to whatever... sell me on this

if an app like astropad or another solution could allow me to use scale and opacity control with brushes in photoshop on an ipad, thats icing on the cake (a lot of icing)

mmmmmm....... icing

this is a v cool idea for a thread i like this

WHO IS EXCITED ABOUT APPLE PENCIL????
HAVE YOU USED IT YET???????

as a stylus enthusiast i would love to start a discussion about this topic to get some feedback from you guys~!!!!!

who here uses a stylus????

DO YOU LIKE STYLUSES????

i do, theyre indispensable for me.

of course we’re talking about electronic styluses that work with computers and mobile devices!!!!!! not an actual pencil, paintbrush, or piece of vine charcoal (natural media which i will return to later in this electrifying post)

anyway, i found myself talking to TWO other artists at once today, random coincidence, where all three of us were bitching about the wait time for an Apple Pencil…so im clearly not the only one interested in this thing~!

ive found that i mainly use an electronic stylus for two main things: photoshop and taking notes

the photoshop part is ancient, ive been using a wacom tablet with photoshop for longer than id like to admit

the notes part is newer – something that ive always wanted to do, write notes and sketches on a mobile device~! the samsung galaxy note has been around for a while now but my first one was the note 3 and now i have a note 5

although ive used wacoms cintiq draw-on-screen devices, i havent spent enough low key time with one to be conclusive about those in relation to their screenless tablets, although the experience was very good, what i expected. anybody here use one?

from what i hear the microsoft surface has a stylus. you guys using that? looks like it has some nice features

ipads have had styluses that work with them for some time, and although i know many artists who have mind blowing sketchbooks made with them, the experience has never been enough for me. pressure sensitivity like im used to with my intuos wacom just isnt there, but considering ipads historically have never been designed to work with anything other than a finger… i actually find their third party styluses pretty impressive. not something id personally use, but a lot of folks do amazing work with them

tbh i havent really used an electronic stylus very much for the one thing that apples new pencil/ipad pro is all about: naturalistic analog drawing. but id like to

ive had a chance to use apples pencil (not to be confused with the product made by 53) a little bit and my first reaction is that its great – and the price point of an ipad pro isnt v close to a $2500 cintiq companion 2 so thats nice. i need more time with it in a real drawing app like procreate to be sure how good it is tho

but for me so far its the best electronic naturalistic 'real media’ drawing experience that ive had yet. saying this as a mac user who has NEVER owned an ipad: i would buy an ipad pro right this hot second if i didnt have to wait a month for pencil (its ‘backordered')

the thing is, dunno how this works outside the states, but in the US apple is in their holiday return period so instead of the usual two weeks, you have until January 8th to return or exchange stuff that you buy other than contracted phones (fyi!!!). that would give me almost two months to make sure i love it… but whatever ::sigh::

lastly, if i wanted my dream tablet to do something in addition to this "naturalistic drawing experience”, it would undoubtedly be what my wacom already does very well: pressure sensitivity in photoshop. im simply talking about brushes where you change their size and opacity through pen pressure

although an ipad pro sure as hell wont run photoshop, http://astropad.com/ipad/ is a thing that im very curious about. anybody tried it?? p amazing if it works, which ive heard it does, but never seen it in person. anybody use astropad???

WHO IS INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC, DO YOU WANT AN APPLE PENCIL, DO YOU USE A STYLUS, DO YOU CARE, FAIR WARNNG IF NO ONE COMMENTS I WILL CRY

i love all that stuff. to me if youre going for a pretty, dreamy, cinematic feel, vintage lenses and highly resolving contemporary camera bodies are a match made in heaven

and, if you want a harder edge, you can definitely do that in your grade. i mean more so that its a painters brush paired with a surgeons scalpel ~ for the good