kaylee

6 hours ago, IronFilm said:

On 11/25/2016 at 8:35 PM, kaylee said:

*the only exception is in terms of safety

Nope, that is still not an exception. 

You should instead report the safety issue to the person above you. 

In extreme cases where that is ignored... you might consider going to the next person up in the chain, or similar, but you're still many steps away from the point of bringing it up directly with the director. 

yep thats true @IronFilm on a literal level that is absolutely correct, hear hear. i meant like if a bullet is headed for the director in slow motion

 

5 hours ago, tupp said:

On 11/25/2016 at 8:35 PM, kaylee said:

when i was going to art center, art school number three for me because i was pursuing an education not a degree,

Nice to know that a fellow alumnus is on the board!  I consider it more of a professional design school rather than an art school.  Most of us were pursuing a profe$$ional education when I attended.

yeah for sure. art center is a unique place. the most talented student body ive ever seen... most of the people walking the halls are geniuses

i got a p good fine art scholarship transferred to the film program ?  both weird majors for art center believe me i know. but my vision was always to learn from the whole school as much as possible. like i went and talked to the transportation design students and hung out with them (amazing), learned about rapid prototyping and stuff.

not surprised that youre an art center alumnus @tupp~! youre smart

i avoided leaving with a huge amount of debt, but some ppl were in $300k+

thats frickin crazy. thats a house (not here tho lmao)

welcome @Tarantinofan! i cant wait to see your kick ass movie 

 

so, film school. my question is this: what are your goals? to be a commercial director? a famous filmmaker? a great Artist™?

if the answer is the latter, that you want to be an artist who uses filmmaking within his practice, i would highly recommend going to "art school" and taking all the classes you might not have thought about taking: basic drawing, color theory, 2D design, ART HISTORY, etc. ykno those "foundation" classes that many art schools make everyone take even if youre majoring in film? these experiences will broaden the horizon of your creativity exponentially

"film school" is a different proposition. in general i feel like youll waste a huge amount of time at great expense. a KEY point to film school in our contemporary world is MAKING CONTACTS – in a place like LA. v few places like that, and theres tens of thousands of fresh film school graduates working at restaurants who can tell you that there are very few jobs in hollywood

if youre trying to create your own content, its a radically new era, you can do so much yourself, and broadcast it to the whole world. film school programs can be kind of nuts where you dont pick up a camera for the first year or something... imagine if i taught a drawing class with no pencils or paper for a year. people learn by doing, so just making ANYTHING will be hugely educational

2 hours ago, Geoff CB said:

He walked right up to the director in the middle of shooting and asked what the scene was about. He was kicked off set

??????

when i was going to art center, art school number three for me because i was pursuing an education not a degree, i was taking film classes, and the first day the department head asked, "When should you, a new person on a film set, tell the director your opinion?"

the answer was... NEVER!!!!!!! SHUT THE HECK UP!!!

lol ppl dont get that when theyre new, i understand, but that was on day one bc its literally one of the WORST THINGS YOU CAN DO. to me this is common sense but its whatever*

*the only exception is in terms of safety

several years ago out of sheer laziness i plugged my mac into my 53" samsung plasma so i could work while lying on the couch under a blanket... and ive never looked back. i do 99% of my work at home this way now. SOoo great for watching video

using windows, is there a ui scalability? i wish that was built into osx. when my friends macbook pro is plugged into her huge 70" 4k tv the osx menus and interface elements look ridiculous imo

also, last time i checked macs cant do 4k out at over 30hz... no bueno. im assuming that a pc can? whats that connection? do u need a tv with hdmi 2.0? 

i love this thread! please post i want a 4k tv but i dont want the os interface to be so damn small i cant see whats going on... maybe ill get a pc idek

12 hours ago, hyalinejim said:

Second hand 5d3 with ML plus cards and hard drives is probably do-able for below 2000

it sure is i did it!! ?

12 hours ago, hyalinejim said:

a well exposed 5D3 image is a dream to work with in post and, as this guy says, 1920 x 1080 is enough for a 2k DCP.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18286.0

tru tru. i watched that guys trailer and it looks great! if you didnt know better, woudnt you think that it was shot with a MUCH more expensive camera? i would ?

alexs's face tho

1 hour ago, Axel said:

come on, this thread was read 620 times, but only 21 contributors to the poll?

you shamed me into voting ?

im super interested in the idea of hdr in principle and i appreciate this thread. im not educated on the latest news but ill get way more into it when i have a chance to see a great example of it in person in a nice dark room

as opposed to fads like the revival of stereoscopic 3D, this is progress

GUYS!!!! I THINK YOURE ALL FORGETTING SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT

THIS IS MY DOGEE JASPER

HE IS A LITTLE PUMPKIN!!!!!! HE IS MADE OF SUGAR

LOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THOSE ARE HIS SNOWSHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JASPER IS AN ANGEL ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

AN. ANGELLLLLLLLL

See? I made a point and backed it up with actual facts. Think about it

On 11/12/2016 at 10:03 AM, HelsinkiZim said:

I am giving a workshop (yikes!) to a couple of teenagers about inexpensive filmmaking and I wanted to ask you all what topics you would talk about if you were to cover the very basics of teaching someone to go out and shoot for the first time with their phones or DSLRs on zero budget.

What kind of advice would you give a first time shooter (above and beyond story)?

I have my some takes on the matter, but would appreciate some fresh views that fill in the gaps in my knowledge.

 

those kids should JUST MAKE STUFF thats my advice

they should edit together *something* before they even know it

having them start doing things to ask questions about asap, capitalize on that innocent enthusiasm~! 

like heres an exercise: tell a short story about nothing with your camera. a girl making coffee, thats it: thats not a story, but in terms of various shots that make a visual narrative through juxtaposition and other techniques of the language that we call cinema, of course it is!

dunno how your workshop is structured or if any of that is possible lol, but at the very least id encourage them to USE WHAT THEY HAVE, AND SHOOT STUFF. 

13 hours ago, Emanuel said:

The point is no matter how worthy Sanders' proposals are, no one can build up a whole wall / world against Trump's voters. People tend to forget it. World can't be saved. Neither the people.

Only a bit less worse than it really and actually is. And always will :-(

E.

Thank you so much! yeah lol im always right about US politics in terms of predicting the future –– even this year

anyway please send my dollar to:

Kaylee Fabian

1234 Anystreet

Cario Egypt 11311

 

P.S. @Ed_David i also bet myself a dollar that you would start this thread

you guys owe me a dollar

 

4 hours ago, hyalinejim said:

I don't think it's that bad. Are you referring to the screengrab above, or the DNGs I posted?

yeah... looks good to me~! thanks for the dngs @hyalinejim

1 hour ago, kidzrevil said:

Running out to buy an 80d cause wowwww

i kno rite... so how long can an 80d shoot 1080p for now?? like 12 seconds or??

this is awesome news thanks for posting @Katrikura

15 hours ago, Jonesy Jones said:

Julian...

i was in Julian the other day and i had apple pie with cheddar cheese on it

@Liam i feel your pain my friend. ive been there

id like to help, and respond at length, but im on mobile rn, so first please tell me this so i can get the temperature of the situation:

~

so you want to be a filmmaker. what are you willing to do to get what you want?

how long are you willing to work for it? how hard?

i would guess that youre in your early 20s. what if i told you that youre going to exceed your creative goals by leaps and bounds one day, and that people all over the whole world will see your work, but its going to take 15 years?

is that ok with you?

why or why not

ok what brand should i get squig? does it matter?

13 hours ago, Ricardo Constantino said:

Please guys, give me at least one good reason not to sell my G7 and buy a 5D Mark III for RAW shooting. I'm going nuts here!

im afraid i cant do that Ricardo!!! I LOVE SHOOTING 5d3 RAW VIDEO. and its a KILLER STILLS CAMERA ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

this morning i loaded the latest nightly build of magic lantern (ive been busy smh) and went out for the day to shoot... with no problems whatsoever!!! magic lantern recorded continuous 1080p 24fps raw until my cf card ran out of space

its really not hard at all once you get used to it!!! you just have to jump in the pool

the color is stunning. what this camera does with its 12 stops is one of a kind... im thrilled with the way all of my clips look so far. i havent even figured out a workflow, but the results are ALREADY worth investing in. im SUPER STOKED 

BUT SPEAKING OF CARDS!!!! i clearly need some!!! ?  64GB goes by really fast – what should i get???

3 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

A mistake Ive done a few times is that I accidentally record to the SD, which of course is only there to contain the firmware and can only record 10 seconds or so.

i did that too lol

2 hours ago, hyalinejim said:

Yes, and very occasionally for me ML tries to record to SD even though CF is inserted and set to "preferred card" in ML menu. You know this is happening if the bit rate in the upper right corner of the screen is lower than 86 to 90.

A reboot solves this one, but it's had me scratching my head more than once.

this is exactly the stuff i need to hear. thanks so much guys

thank you @squig will do!!!!! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

UPDATE

OK!!! so ive been shooting a lil bit trynna figure a workflow thatll be ok for my computer!!! im so busy with work i havent had much time to play with my new camera but i have accomplished the shooting of quite a few raw clips.... and ALL of them look better than any of the video ive ever shot... so im stoked!! v happy!!!

BUT!!!

i drove out to the country on my day off to do some ml raw testing and, of course, once im in the middle of nowhere ml started crashing during raw shooting. this hadnt happened before, and it *didnt happen later that evening when i tried shooting again*.... recorded fine, longer clips that i had before actually, 30 sec+, and i did NOT change ANY settings inbetween it working and not working

what happened earlier in the day was this: i started recording and anywhere from 4-20 seconds in the green camera icon turned yellow and then red. being smart i was like "uh oh thats bad". then the recording stopped with a message like "Recording stopped automagically", it did that a handful of times, and one time the message said something brief about a "bug" - i dont remember exactly cuz it was only on the screen for like a half second (!!!). i tried taking out the battery and the cards, the only thing i know how to do lol, none of that worked. same errors when recording, recording stops. then, like i said, later that night its fine! oh and also it was not hot at all during the day - nice cool weather

anyway, im using old ml firmware that came on the card with my used camera, since ive been advised to use the latest nightly build, do you think that would solve my problem? i mean ill definitely update to it once i have a chance to figure out how to do so, im just trynna to troubleshoot the issue... could it be the 64GB komputerbay card that came with the camera? might be 3+ years old. does the canon firmware matter beyond the fact that its old enough to run ml? what should i know here?

i reached my like limit but im spiritually liking all the posts in this thread rn ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

awww awesome ? ? ? ? ?  thats so helpful

1 hour ago, squig said:

raw doesn't have audio and is a little less processor intensive than MLV without audio

dope thank you. so theres no reason to avoid .raw if im not trynna record audio?

1 hour ago, squig said:

In Resolve select BMD flim for grading (not REC709) to get the most latitude and switch on highlight recovery.

yes i read about this thank you for confirming

1 hour ago, squig said:

You have full raw controls in Resolve like in ACR except no denoise in Resolve lite

i kno i already like it so much paying for the noise reduction sounds reasonable lol 

1 hour ago, squig said:

I find LUTs very tedious and annoying, I've got too many of them, it's like when I got a reverb unit with 200 presets, drove me nuts. Better to just start with a film profile, then build on it.

yeah im personally not into luts but i think people have done some beautiful stuff with film convert etc. im tryin to get a workflow going where i can nuance parts of my image as much as possible... ykno everything resolve does lol. im coming from a stills/photoshop background so after effects is almost kind of familiar although i havent used it much. i want the footage in my feature to look really naturalistic like i didnt key everything when in fact i did lol. depending on the shot, but i might decide that a character whos in half my movie wearing a green jacket needs to be just a bit more pale, and his jacket needs to be more yellow. stuff like that. not that im shooting my film with 5d3 raw....... but you are ?

1 hour ago, squig said:

The 40mm pancake lens is pretty good, I've got one too. I'm a vintage glass freak, no love for L glass, but the 40mm looks kinda oldschool;

yeah it does. its so light and tiny i pick up the camera and think its the body only. im so glad you mentioned it because....... vignetting?? wth am i doing something wrong? i mean i read the reviews and i kno its there but its severe. i kno its easy to fix in acr/lightroom but what the heck is it that bad??

1 hour ago, squig said:

I'm a vintage glass freak, no love for L glass

yeah i cant wait to get my collection of old ff lenses started!!! i enjoy some weird old glass lol. im gonna ebay some helios glass first #weird ?

1 hour ago, squig said:

it's gonna be my DPAF gimbal lens when the Mark IV does raw

i so hope this happens itll be a great upgrade once i figure out what im doing ?

 

///hi @hyalinejim!

31 minutes ago, hyalinejim said:

If you value the ACR image quality

i kinda do. ive done enough reading on the topic to know that thats a thing. but idk. im extremely familiar with canon color + acr from stills and the footage ive shot so far looks EXACTLY the way i expected it to look in acr.... which counts a lot for me

33 minutes ago, hyalinejim said:

it might be worth investing in Cinelog

ooooo! nice

37 minutes ago, hyalinejim said:

Luckily the RAW histogram option shows the noise floor. Try to stay out of it.

sweet i will investigate

38 minutes ago, hyalinejim said:

Finally, check out the new crop.rec module (not to be confused with the older greyscale crop mode). It turns your camera into a superzoom!

whoa awesome! #module is one of the words that was scaring me like #node but im working thru it

 

///Hi @garethw!!! welcome

i made this account to inspire new posters when zachgoodwin was first getting out of control. glad to see its working lol

19 minutes ago, garethw said:

2) If you are not careful you get vertical banding on the DNG conversions... MLVviewer has button to fix this for the MLV's and raw2dng in its lastest edition also fixes it. BUT I got tripped up on my first shoot and failed to notice the lines until it was too late.

holy shit ? yeah ive heard about the dreaded vertical banding but i dont know anything about it. i checked the vertical stripes correction box in rawmagic lite because it seemed like a fun box to check and i havent seen problems yet (???) is this just if youre pushing the footage or is it obvious all the time?

23 minutes ago, garethw said:

4) You need to be careful of your shadow details... with a raw photo in camrearaw you can boost the shadow visibility if you start to lighten them in raw video the noise becomes apparent very quickly.. You have lass possiblities as far as I can see than with a raw photo.

ive gathered that. sometimes i think that im just used to creating more noise in lifted shadows in stills because that noise is WAY less noticeable/distracting when its not moving. and although thats true i keep hearing ETTR so ill do that lol

 

14 minutes ago, Nikkor said:

Congrats, but here in sweden it goes for 250$

?

i kno i was gonna fly to sweden to buy one (still wouldve saved money) but im too busy with work

 

9 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

Definitely use something like Rawmagic

hi @Mattias Burling thank u!! youll be happy to kno that i already came across that exact tutorial when searching this out ???  youre internet famous

i downloaded rawmagic lite!!! im p happy with rawmagic to resolve i think im gonna try that first ?

 

@EVERYONE BUT WAIT OMGZ

the first short clips ive shot have some weird jerky motion here and there, looks like dropped frames to me but i have no idea what im talking about. i went .raw > rawmagic > dngs > acr > export as numerically named jpgs > import image sequence in premiere > render out. could be a file naming thing i guess but it doesnt seem like frames are out of place?

im just tryin to make sure everythings working ok before i get too deep into this. could it be the komputerbay cf card that came with the camera? might be 3 years old. what memory cards are best to use for performance? im fine with buying whatever is best

U GUYS R AWESOME THANK UUUUUU

this gives me a ton of stuff to research when im at work all week

UPDATE: OMG I MADE A RAW VIDEO!!!! I AM RAWING!!!!!!!!! ?????

i just exported jpgs from acr to premiere for immediate gratification lol

whats the difference between raw and mlv... audio?

i used rawmagic lite to concert .raw to dngs

3 minutes ago, squig said:

If your mac is up to it you can play/edit/grade the raw files realtime in Resolve with MLVFS. http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0

If your mac isn't up to it you can still use MLVFS and transcode to ProRes (preferably 4444) in After Effects, or make proxys. You can't use the sliders on the first screen in ACR, they cause flickering, but you can use the sliders on the second ACR screen  (curves) instead to adjust shadows and highlights.

Expose to the right to keep the noise down, you can recover the highlights in post. Use the histogram with ETTR hint and experiment to find the sweet spot.

Set FPS to exact.

Use the latest build, there's a lot of builds with a pink frame bug which was recently fixed.

Just gimme a yell if you get stuck, there's a lot to absorb because ML is so customized, but once you get your head around it it's really easy to use. Once you get your config how you want it it's saved to the card. Backup the ML files to your mac so you can easily reload them when you reformat cards.

Most of the ML crew are really friendly but there's one fascist there that made me lose interest in being a mod. They do tend to hassle people for asking questions before doing a search, but are helpful if you can't find something. I don't use any of the photographic features but I can help with any video stuff.

aww yisss just what i needed youre the greatest @squig!!!! wow this is gonna be fun i have the day off tomorrow to play around woo hoo

yeah the ml board is too intimidating for me to post on ? thanks so much for your help. i promise not to pm you unless im super stuck ?

1 hour ago, fuzzynormal said:

I couldn't get optimized media to work reliably with h.264 footage in Resolve. Maybe with raw it's better. I'd like to know your experience with it once you give it a shot. 

ill definitely let you know! ?

OMGZ GUYS I FINALLY GOT A 5D3!!!!! ??????

for those interested i need it now for stills so i bought it used off craigslist here in california for $1800 - came with 4 batteries, battery grip, 2 chargers, sd card, cf card, and 40mm pancake. its still under the resellers warranty (not canon, local shop) for another month, two small marks on the bottom of the body otherwise in great condition, and 12k on the shutter.

the seller was legit and he already had magic lantern on the sd card! so....

PLEASE HELP ME WITH MAGIC LANTERN RAW 5D3 BEST CURRENT PRACTICES

Whats the easy way to do things in terms of workflow? Mind you i am brand new to this so dont spare the details. I have a mac with the adobe suite, fcpx and resolve lite. speaking of which...

TRY RESOLVE ITS FREE

i really have to thank you all for teaching me so much over the years ive read this board. when i first downloaded and opened resolve i had NO idea what was going on. thanks to a lot of learning i am now able to get into it a bit and i love it - resolve is AWESOME. and ykno what? it wasnt nearly as hard to get started as i thought it was going to be

so this is a special message for anyone who has had the ambition to try resolve but is too intimidated, or someone who tried in the past and gave up almost immediately (me lol). its really not that hard at all, for me the big disconnect was never using a node based app before and being terrified of that for some reason, but nodes are kinda like a tree of adjustment layers - its just weird looking at first ?

/anyway please prescribe me a raw workflow!!! id like to use resolve cuz i wanna learn it anyway but im open to whatever. any tips/tricks/pitfalls to avoid also much appreciated!!!!!!

thanks for the inspiration and all the knowledge guys!!! i really might not have bought this camera if not for eoshd ?

wow i love animation what a fun topic!!

2 hours ago, Liam said:

Satoshi Kon

so awesome this is some of my favorite stuff ever – btw im discussing all of this in a purely visual sense rn

just gorgeous 2d design what a genius

2 hours ago, Liam said:

having never even drawn much before

ive drawn a lot, and thought about drawing a lot more, but i just dont have the talent of these illustrators in any way shape or form – im good at copying. whenever i look at animators sketchbooks im just like wtf. they amaze me

99% of the drawing i do is based on photographic imagery that i create, not unlike whats going on below. classic disney animation is some of the most lyrical, beautiful work of its kind to me, just delightful

so, since youre already a cinematographer, you could make that work for you in all kinds of ways. and im not saying start drawing like those disney dudes... i certainly cant... you can abstract photo derived imagery almost to oblivion as an animator with powerful results that retain the gestalt of what youve shot

then again

2 hours ago, Liam said:

Don Hertzfeldt

something completely different

i was gonna make an analogy about dons work with the simplicity of the simpsons and then i was like OH SNAP MY FAVORITE COUCH GAG (simpsons intro)

this is disturbing and beautiful

STILL LOVE U HOMAR

"When simplicity goes head to head with complexity, simplicity will win every time"

^ example

the more iconic your work, the weirder you can get. i mean this is a dog and a cat..... a dog and a cat

im working on my own take on animation... its coming along but unfortunately ive failed at inventing a technique thats easy lol

anyway animation +/-

+ beloved by people of all ages, transcends race and culture

+ can be done by one person

+ easy to be unique

- hard

- time consuming

and as always, the age old saying "if its not on the page its not on the stage" holds true – write something you love first! thatll get you through the long nights slaving over a hot computer ?

also...

this was way ahead of its time