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You could always try 8 bit until NLEs catch up. Adobe won't spend the resources (which are likely considerable) until there is enough of a user base to warrant doing so, so they likely won't implement it for quite some time. It will be the same sort of situation as when the NX1 first came out, where for a long time the big NLE programs did not support native editing of H.265 files.

It will happen when it happens, until then you can either transcode with some utility, or just shoot in formats which are directly readable.

 

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What is the issue with the workflow using GH5 files? 
Is it something that you can't get around by using another NLE?

Adobe software can be really frustrating sometimes. When it works its great... but a LOT of the time it seems to not work. Or not as it should anyway. 


 

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Try using Assimilate Scratch. It accepts - for base editing and high-end hard grading - even a GH5 6K video (hevc) files without any transcoding. Its workflow is way more intuitive and delivery-transcoding process (including native prores!) much faster than Resolve and Premiere. Only downside for editing is - just one audio track.

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Adobe's pretty much lost me. I'm over the subscription pricing, I'm over the bloated software...

If I could find some genuine replacements for AE, Photoshop and Lightroom I'd be happy to get rid of Adobe once and for all...

Maybe it's time to try Fusion..

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The GH5 problem sucks but to be honest I've had good experiences with Adobe when I've needed help. They do screen shares and have a tech figure out problems. The three times that I've done a session with them they've figured out an obscure problem.

They do need to set up a real feature request email system though. That would be smart.

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Absolutely +10000

I am going to write a blog about this.

Adobe's GH5 support has been completely off-hand.

7 hours ago, Neumann Films said:

All right, back to individually transcoding each clip in Rocky Mountain Movie Converter (...you read that correctly).

Do you have a Mac to hand? Try EditReady, it's the best $50 I ever spent.

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7 hours ago, tugela said:

You could always try 8 bit until NLEs catch up. Adobe won't spend the resources (which are likely considerable) until there is enough of a user base to warrant doing so...It will happen when it happens, until then you can either transcode with some utility, or just shoot in formats which are directly readable.

 

 Yup, spot on!! That's exactly how condescending and unhelpful Adobe support was.  Great impression man!

(largest eye roll in the history of eye rolls)

1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:

Absolutely +10000

I am going to write a blog about this.

Adobe's GH5 support has been completely off-hand.

Do you have a Mac to hand? Try EditReady, it's the best $50 I ever spent.

Good!  No, don't have a Mac at my disposal.  

5 hours ago, anonim said:

Try using Assimilate Scratch. It accepts - for base editing and high-end hard grading - even a GH5 6K video (hevc) files without any transcoding. Its workflow is way more intuitive and delivery-transcoding process (including native prores!) much faster than Resolve and Premiere. Only downside for editing is - just one audio track.

I mean, I'm not opposed to that but moving software is like moving where you live.  Its an ordeal and I really don't have the time to do that right now.  At some point...yeah, it might be time.

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Adobe's Creative Cloud revenue grew 40% last year. They are making a ton of money despite what others said when they decided to go whole hog from perpetual to subscription-based licensing. 

And I agree with Luke. Their support is quite bad. The forums are largely there so users can help other users with minimal Adobe help.

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Adobe lost me years ago.

I am a long time stills photog.  When they went to the Credit Card model of Photoshop CS, I was out.

The arrogance of the mismanagement was it for me, it wasn't about price.  At the time, and still do, I felt betrayed.

I can go on and on about this bad experience, as it really hurt me personally, but I wont, they are available on the various many still photo websites.

Unfortunately, my stills workflow is still Photoshop CS6, I actually love it, as I have put huge ammount of time and monies in learning it for a comfortable workflow.

I purchased a Resolve dongle last year, and am slowly learning Davinci for my video work.

I just wish there was an AE alternative, as I always thought that app was very interesting to me.

Good luck to us all.

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C300 II 10-bit IPB and ALL-I 4K and 1080p play ok in the latest release (MXF container). Haven't checked since last release; 12-bit 1080p played ok but slower.

I think I read somewhere that rewrapping GH5 to .mxf without transcoding will work (fast as a file copy and lossless).

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37 minutes ago, buggz said:

I purchased a Resolve dongle last year, and am slowly learning Davinci for my video work.

I just wish there was an AE alternative, as I always thought that app was very interesting to me.

Good luck to us all.

The AE alternative exists, it's Blackmagic Fusion, on the same model as Resolve, but it's an entirely new software to learn indeed.

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I don't find the need to transcode footage all that frustrating. Yes, the lack of support by Adobe is annoying and you'd think (hope) they would be supporting this camera by now but AME does an efficient job of getting my footage into ProRes 422 HQ or DNxHR HQX. I can convert on my iMac (27-inch 3.5 GHz i7, 32GB RAM, 4GB VRAM) at about 2x speed. Then I have a working, hi-res, 10-bit master that I can bring into Premiere or Media Composer. Maybe it's my years of needing to transcode DSLR footage that not immediately having Premiere or AMA support isn't a big deal.

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Adobe is very slow to upgrade things. I hate how you have to nest when adding some fx (stabilize and twixtor) to non native res files. Fit to fill sucks, max motion effect sucks. Ame has room to improve too. It should have pass through for audio (especially when you can only relink to files with same amount of audio channels DUH), same as source frame rate, and ability to add pre/suffix to file names. Edit ready is much better.  The fan boys ruin it for those who want to improve the software. Customers need to be more demanding. 

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I abandoned Premiere for FCPX & Resolve mainly for 3 reasons:

1. Its hard to afford or justify their subscription model, unless you are a professional that makes a ton of money. It would probably be cheaper if they charged me by the hour! So I spent $200 for FCPX with Motion & Logic pro. 

2. CPU hog and bad XAVC-S handling. There us just no way I would even be comfortable editing 4K on a laptop. With FCPX & Resolve I can edit 4K footage with plenty of effects like butter with a dual core laptop and an external GPU

3. Color shifts on skin tones

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1 hour ago, jcs said:

C300 II 10-bit IPB and ALL-I 4K and 1080p play ok in the latest release (MXF container). Haven't checked since last release; 12-bit 1080p played ok but slower.

I think I read somewhere that rewrapping GH5 to .mxf without transcoding will work (fast as a file copy and lossless).

Hi JCS, this may be what you meant, I brought it up in another "Adobe" thread.

GJeffrey tool, on Vegas forum put it together, very useful, GH5 10 bit 422 to MXF, rewrap.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/gh5-4k-24-30p-problem--105152/#ca658650

I made an old style batch file, CV2MXF.bat wrapped around GJeffreys code to give basic log file and choice options.

I had previously made a batch file, old style, "Convert to Prores", it, CV2P.bat, also requires ffmpeg.

The 2 that I uploaded on 20th. on the other thread, need to be removed by Andrew, these 2 are newer.

CV2MXF.zip

CV2P.zip

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5 minutes ago, Jn- said:

Hi JCS, this may be what you meant, I brought it up in another "Adobe" thread.

GJeffrey tool, on Vegas forum put it together, very useful, GH5 10 bit 422 to MXF, rewrap.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/gh5-4k-24-30p-problem--105152/#ca658650

I made an old style batch file, CV2MXF.bat wrapped around GJeffreys code to give basic log file and choice options.

I had previously made a batch file, old style, "Convert to Prores", it, CV2P.bat, also requires ffmpeg.

The 2 that I uploaded on 20th. on the other thread, need to be removed by Andrew, these 2 are newer.

CV2MXF.zip

CV2P.zip

Cool- I tried Photon (which I wrote) which uses ffmpeg- however the latest version of ffmpeg doesn't rewrap the video correctly to MXF. Good to hear someone has it working (as it should in theory for rewrapping).

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