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Panasonic GH5 - all is revealed!

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34 minutes ago, kye said:

I agree that the P4K can't replace my GH5.  I doubt the GH6 will replace the P4K for everyone, maybe some people will, but one of the big appeals of the P4K is RAW and there's a big difference between 400Mbps 10-bit All-I h264 or 200Mbps 6K h265 mode and the higher bit-depth crazy bitrates of RAW or edit-friendly Prores files.  The GH6 may well be a beast, but I doubt it'll have full RAW in-camera.

There's not such a big difference between the  400Mbps GH5 codec and the P4k RAW - depends how much you want to bend it in post or how much you need to recover mistakes in capture. Yes the RAW is better in a lot of respects but the 400mbps is also very good

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I know this is more of a, we like GH5 video, which is good, and you may not like his presentation, I do, but it is an excellent breakdown of the strengths and weakness of all the manufacturers out there that interest us for video, and photo. It is long as hell, but well worth the view when you have the time to see all of it..

 

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15 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

I know this is more of a, we like GH5 video, which is good, and you may not like his presentation, I do, but it is an excellent breakdown of the strengths and weakness of all the manufacturers out there that interest us for video, and photo. It is long as hell, but well worth the view when you have the time to see all of it..

 

it is too long and difficult to undesrtand for me

Does it say anything about xt3 vs gh5?

thanks

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1 hour ago, stefanocps said:

it is too long and difficult to undesrtand for me

Does it say anything about xt3 vs gh5?

thanks

Skip more toward the last 1/3 of the video for most of the comparisons. He just mostly states the advantages and weakness of all the cameras. But that is to me a good thing. He is not doing a I got 6 cameras and this is the result thing. It is all verbal. So it might not be too ideal for you.

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Had another gig where it saved the day. Fast paced interviews in a cafe, followed by B-roll in a kitchen. Tight, cramped, not much time to shoot. They only wanted 1080p, so I could easily bounce between a few primes with regular and ETC mode, all 10bit V-log. Steady handheld even with a 60mm sigma in ETC. 

 

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I tend to shoot chronologically and “edit” in camera, so can you set up a custom setting where you have “C2” set for 60p on the 2nd card slot while you have 24p set to “C1” on the 1st card slot?

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15 hours ago, mercer said:

I tend to shoot chronologically and “edit” in camera, so can you set up a custom setting where you have “C2” set for 60p on the 2nd card slot while you have 24p set to “C1” on the 1st card slot?

Unfortunately, it appears not.  I just changed it from 1->2 to 2->1 and saved it to C2, turned camera off then on again, and now C1, C2, and C3 are set to 2->1.  I did the opposite and they all changed back to 1->2, so it looks like that setting is global, not part of the custom profiles.

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On 5/23/2019 at 1:45 AM, dbp said:

Had another gig where it saved the day. Fast paced interviews in a cafe, followed by B-roll in a kitchen. Tight, cramped, not much time to shoot. They only wanted 1080p, so I could easily bounce between a few primes with regular and ETC mode, all 10bit V-log. Steady handheld even with a 60mm sigma in ETC. 

 

By ETC do you mean the kind of sensor crop zoom?

I have found it works with no loss in 4k but with HD it looks crap, very noisy. Am I doing something wrong?

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On 5/29/2019 at 1:48 PM, Thpriest said:

By ETC do you mean the kind of sensor crop zoom?

I have found it works with no loss in 4k but with HD it looks crap, very noisy. Am I doing something wrong?

It's definitely nosier. Depends on what ISOs you're using, I prefer to use it at lower ISOs if I have to. 

And honestly, I have a higher tolerance for noise than most, so what seems like no big deal to me very well might be offensive to you. 

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On 5/30/2019 at 1:48 AM, Thpriest said:

By ETC do you mean the kind of sensor crop zoom?

I have found it works with no loss in 4k but with HD it looks crap, very noisy. Am I doing something wrong?

My understanding is the ETC mode reads 1:1 from the middle of the sensor, whereas the non-ETC modes downscale from the whole sensor (6K? something like that, anyway).

Noise is always reduced when you downscale an image, so this will kind of act as a kind of in-camera NR.  The only way to improve the ISO noise and keep the same framing is to change lenses - either to keep the same focal length but get a faster lens (narrowing the DoF of course) to bring more light into the camera, or to go for a longer focal length and not use the ETC mode.  I realise neither of these is terribly convenient, unfortunately.

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21 minutes ago, Video Hummus said:

Shot on GH5 and GH5S with the new lens. Looks really good to me.

This lens with ETC is a powerhouse.

That's going to instantly be the 18-35mm 1.8 equivalent of the MFT world, you can see it already.

I like the fact they went wider at the wide end, 14 or even 12mm isn't wide enough I think, which is why I have an 8mm prime in my kit, and is either the 2nd or 3rd lens in my bag, depending on the situation, because nothing beats it for those 'wow' wide shots.

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It will look like a 18-45 f3 on a GH5S. Which is even a bit more wide. On a GH5 with ETC it can be a 20-75 f3.5.

If one doesn’t already have fast prime already (I don’t) this is a no brainer purchase. Especially since it has manual focus clutch and reduced focus breathing and a stepless aperture wheel for smooth aperture changes.

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8 hours ago, Video Hummus said:

It will look like a 18-45 f3 on a GH5S. Which is even a bit more wide. On a GH5 with ETC it can be a 20-75 f3.5.

If one doesn’t already have fast prime already (I don’t) this is a no brainer purchase. Especially since it has manual focus clutch and reduced focus breathing and a stepless aperture wheel for smooth aperture changes.

I agree.  I bought the 18-35/1.8 for my APSC camera on the promise that it is like having 28mm 2.8, 35mm 3.8, and 56mm 2.8 equivalent primes, all without having to change lenses, and it absolutely delivered in that sense.  When combined with Magic Lantern and its 3x crop mode, it made it into a 28-168mm zoom, which would be the perfect walk-around lens.  I only went a different way because of problems with ML and the fact the setup had no stabilisation and I shoot hand-held.

This lens is the same principle, but with the IBIS in the GH5.  Had this lens been around when I swapped to the GH5 from Canon I might have just bought it and never looked back.  Although I wonder how heavy it will be....  the 18-35 1.8 is prohibitively heavy for a hand-held walk around lens.

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