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Panasonic GH5 - all is revealed!

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This thread got me thinking .The teasers Neumann Films does in his VLOG posts, plus his cryptic comments in this thread... might point to a new MFT cam with better low light capabilities.

Funnily enough, 43rumors thinks a big MFT announcement is imminent in december (news posted today)

In his vlog Neumann - after teasing us with a "Classified" after unboxing something unidentified - shows a lot of available light night shooting... possibly with that new cam? this rimes well with Cliff Totten's Analysis of the GH5 sensor and its successor, the IMX294CJK. That new sensor is 10megapix-ish, and high sensitivity. Please find the link to the sensor here.

It features bigger photocells, and even a HDR mode on-chip. I'm not even getting started on 4k120p or anamorphic modes.

It's all conjecture at this point and wishful thinking... but wouldn't a GH5s be damn nice?

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4 hours ago, jonpais said:

....please leave a comment below if you intend to purchase a Panasonic HDR TV because of the GH5. I kind of doubt it.

I am planning to buy a good HDR TV to watch my GH5 videos. It may not be a Panasonic TV.  LG or Philips OLEDs are first two items in my list for Santa Claus.

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Different cameras do different things. Sony cameras have the low light capability and that is one of their main calling cards.

Another body, from someone it seems?

 

17 hours ago, Neumann Films said:
7 hours ago, mercer said:

Hmm... I don’t think anything I wrote above is negative of Panasonic or the GH5? But yeah we’re still buds, I just enjoy talking about cameras and watching what people can do with them. I may have seemed overly critical of the GH5, but in reality I was sooo close on multiple occasions of ordering one. I chose to go the ML Raw route after watching dozens upon dozens of videos. But the GH5 is an amazing camera that would benefit a lot of filmmakers and perhaps not the right choice for a lot of other filmmakers/videographers.

With that being said, I wouldn’t recommend the 5D3 and ML Raw to most people either. 

I honestly don't know if RAW is being added to the GH5 or not.

It would be great if it was though!

Different cameras do different things. Sony cameras have the low light capability and that is one of their main calling cards.  The GH5 is more "all around" in my opinion. 

Its a beast!

 

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Well, it was already rumored that Panasonic would split their flagship into flagships... like Sony did with the A7, A7R and A7S series. So... now that they've decided to give us the photocentric G9... maybe up next indeed a low MP count GH5s with lowlight focus (clean ISO6400, usable ISO12800?).

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18 minutes ago, jonpais said:

@Vesku You’re able to fit the GH5 in your pocket? Incredible.

Yes. I have a just right size belt bag. i can carry my GH5 with 14-140mm zoom with its "pocket" but it cant take any external devices other than one battery and some SD cards. 

I must try some tiny external mic and test if I can get better audio. GH5 mic low tone limiting is so bad. I wonder if an external mic uses GH5 counter noise tech for handling noises?

By the way your Rode test video is not fair if the Rode mic is closer to you than the GH5 internal mic. The distance to mic is the most important factor when trying to record speaking in noisy room. (Not counting long very directive mics).

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The whole point of the video is you’ve got to get the mic off camera. Even an inexpensive mic will outperform the GH5 as long as it’s close to the subject. The in-camera noise cancelling is to eliminate noise from the IBIS. The GH4 audio was not without its own problems. But if you can only carry a couple SD cards, whatever. It’s your show.

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7 hours ago, jonpais said:

The whole point of the video is you’ve got to get the mic off camera. Even an inexpensive mic will outperform the GH5 as long as it’s close to the subject. The in-camera noise cancelling is to eliminate noise from the IBIS. The GH4 audio was not without its own problems. But if you can only carry a couple SD cards, whatever. It’s your show.

There is not always a "subject" in video. Ambient sound is quite often all I need. If I want to hear someone talking I try to put the camera as close to subject as I can. A good directional mic would be helpful with people talking in noisy places. A good mic is of course better than in camera mic. In my videos the in camera mic has been good enough. I just dont like the way GH5 limits low frequencies.

A big mic may be a bit scary too for a subject if I want the most natural or "stealth" recording. Also in some places it makes too much attention to use a big mike. The guards or officials may want to stop me shooting if they think I am making a video story or documentation. With a plain GH5 I can shoot more freely and without too much attention of others.

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When I was in Singapore last month, I purchased an Angelbird 128GB v90 SD card for $250.00. It wasn’t until after flying home that I discovered the card couldn’t keep up when shooting 400Mbps. I emailed Angelbird and they responded promptly, asking me to return the card to them. Two weeks later, I received a replacement, which works just fine. While Panasonic is selling their card for a whopping $500 at B&H, the Angelbird has been marked down to $200.00, which also happens to be $50 less expensive than even the SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC Memory Card, which is not v90, if such things matter to you. 

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A trick for shooting 4k 30P 8bit with 150Mbs bitrate if someone do not want to use 10bit 4:2:2.

Use 150Mbs 4k 60P and adjust shutter speed 1/30s -1/50s. The file is 60P with every frame doubled. It is in practise 30P 150Mbs.

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