Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 14, 2023 Super Members Share Posted September 14, 2023 Click the link for the live presentation. The consensus seems to be that its a new camera so still a few hours left to speculate wildly. SRV1981 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 IMHO, if Blackmagic gets PDAF and IBIS (and,better ergonomics, better battery and ease of use) they will pose serious competition to everyone else. Also, true cinematography cameras will trickle down to a much larger crowd. Something that should have happened after the original pocket cinema camera. Which has superb image quality. But was s nuisance to use 🤣🤣🤣 SRV1981 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: The consensus seems to be that its a new camera so still a few hours left to speculate wildly. My wild speculation is that it will be a groundbreaking stereo 360VR camera using 16K braw files, with built in 3rd order ambisonics audio (in 32bit of course)  7 minutes ago, sanveer said: IMHO, if Blackmagic gets PDAF and IBIS (and,better ergonomics, better battery and ease of use) Come on man, be realistic! That's totally unreasonably wild speculations, that BMD would never do. You should stick with more serious speculations that are actually possible in this world we live in, such as the perfectly possible camera I just suggested BMD might release. sanveer and kye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanzzxx Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Give me L mount or give me dead! And I say that as a huge Blackmagic fan, without a mirrorless mount they’re done for in the budget cinema space. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurtlandPhoto Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I'm wondering if they may trickle some of that 12K sensor tech into a cheaper body. Pocket 12K? Or maybe a full frame sensor? Just 4 hours until we find out. SRV1981 and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Whatever it is, it'll be incredibly ugly, unwieldy, and have terrible battery life. Can't wait! IronFilm, Emanuel and kye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrille Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 wishlhlist: pocketcamera with a good formfactor and no rolling shutter - don't care wether m43 or apsc... IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV1981 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 PDAF 🤤 Chrille 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 My guess is a new modular Pocket-style box camera with built-in NDs like the 6K Pro. Chrille and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_one Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Pocket Cinema Camera 6k, same Pocket 6k Pro housing, new internals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 They did it. They went with the L-mount. Nice! Still ugly as sin though haha. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Full frame sensor, too! IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurtlandPhoto Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 The internals are all fantastic, but I don't understand why they've muddied the waters so much by using the Pocket 6K Pro body. The whole philosophy Grant talked about just screams for it to be a traditional video camera form factor. Â ...the app seems really cool though! Â j_one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankilstef Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 The big disapointment is the same form factor. I really don't like this ! I have had a pocket 4K and Pocket 6K Pro, and though they are wonderful cameras with superb image quality, I really don't like this big chunky shape, so akward to handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Agreed. Aside from just being ugly, it's just not a very practical design for a video centric camera. My guess though is that's how they save money on development and manufacturing costs. IronFilm and MurtlandPhoto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 14, 2023 Author Super Members Share Posted September 14, 2023 The reworked Micro Studio Camera then... looks with the new additions that they've accidentally created the box P4K that everyone has been asking for. A nod to Panasonic there that its possible to bring out a new MFT camera that isn't the size of a brick. However...... Unless I missed it, does that new 6K not have the ND filters ? It wasn't mentioned and looking at the rear panel the +/- buttons to control it that the P6K Pro has were not there. The AF looks like the familiar standard too though and I'm guessing much would have been made if it had something new in that department * Full frame, L mount and CDAF..... Its pretty much a BRAW shooting version of the original S5 without the IBIS then 😉 Looks pretty good but not the complete revolution many were predicting/expecting/hoping for.  *yes, yes real cinema cameras have no AF anyway etc but don't say that you wouldn't love it if it had it..  IronFilm, newfoundmass and majoraxis 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurtlandPhoto Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: The reworked Micro Studio Camera then... looks with the new additions that they've accidentally created the box P4K that everyone has been asking for. My thoughts, too! I'd think any Micro shooter is pretty happy with this new model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 14, 2023 Author Super Members Share Posted September 14, 2023 OK, here is the spec and there are indeed no internal NDs. https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/blackmagiccinemacamera/techspecs/W-CIN-20 IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Most of my speculations in another theme turned out to be true. 🙂 Blackmagic joins L Mount and produces it's first FF cinema camera. Price is good but form factor is disappointing. Still prefer Panasonic S1/S5/S5II + BM Video Assist 5 12G for BRAW video. Much more versatile combo. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, MurtlandPhoto said: My thoughts, too! I'd think any Micro shooter is pretty happy with this new model. Shame it uses LPE6 batteries though. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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