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On 4/5/2021 at 12:23 AM, elgabogomez said:

Red still has the patent for compressed raw recording, atomos got a deal with them and was able to have the prores raw, canon got a deal with them and is able to have canon raw lite. Blackmagic created Braw to avoid a Red lawsuit and is in the clear. Everyone else can’t have internal compressed raw on any camera.

Now s1h can send out the hdmi signal for compressed raw to two different formats, so no, I don’t think internal raw is coming to any Panasonic camera any time soon.

They should just make a battery grip that contains an M2 SSD slot that automagically connects to the camera and records the compressed raw on that - bingo..  "external" raw.

Or licence Prores from Apple and offer those options.  

....or just make it possible to select whatever bitrate and bit depth you want and turn off sharpening, that would do it for me.  

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More DR, internal ProRes and external RAW would be preferably to more pixels.

A7SIII is the closet FF camera that has come to pulling me out of MFT land as a primary camera. The 12MP sensor kinda kills it for me. I wish it was closer to 20MP for photography. 15MP might have bee

It is interesting that the top three spots on Andrew's list of the most popular cameras on EOSHD are all M43 cameras.  Yet every day we have new posts bemoaning the impending death of the format.  And

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On 4/6/2021 at 9:25 AM, kye said:

They should just make a battery grip that contains an M2 SSD slot that automagically connects to the camera and records the compressed raw on that - bingo..  "external" raw.

Or licence Prores from Apple and offer those options.  

....or just make it possible to select whatever bitrate and bit depth you want and turn off sharpening, that would do it for me.  

I think there is also the issue of "how" the RAW data is compressed not just the insanely broad "all RAW from camera compressed higher than 3:1" belongs to RED.

Canon clearly has some kind of deal with RED when there is CRAW Light 8:1 in Hybrid DSLM R5. This, and the fact they fit internal NDs in RF mount flange, makes me incredible excited for future camera generations from Canon.

So I find it doubtful we will see RAW in GH6. I would be really surprised. I think they should do what Sigma did and just offer uncompressed 10-bit and 12-bit RAW and develop that external storage grip solution you are proposing and have the huge file sizes countered with cheap M.2 SSD media recording.

It has been forever since we heard even a whisper of a rumor about hybrid GH cameras. They are either entirely reworking the model line or they are going to kill it and focus on S series FF cameras.

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20 minutes ago, Video Hummus said:

It has been forever since we heard even a whisper of a rumor about hybrid GH cameras. They are either entirely reworking the model line or they are going to kill it and focus on S series FF cameras.

Well... the GH5 is still a very viable camera. It's kind of hard to see where they are going to go from here without some serious redesign, on their part and on Sony's part (since I believe that Panasonic is still dependent on Sony sensors for their cameras).

Is there an m43 sensor out that allows for 4K 120fps readout speeds? If so, is it cost prohibitive?

How about dual gain optimized tech, like the sensor in the Canon C70? That could give m43 sensors another stop or two of dynamic range. 

And everyone would love improved autofocus. But would the current m43 lenses be capable of exploiting a new autofocus system if it were released in a GH6? Maybe there are design limitations in the current lenses that prevent them from benefiting from phase-detect AF.

And since a full frame Panasonic S5 sells for less than $2000 now (maybe just a temporary sale price), at what price can Panasonic sell a whole lot of GH6 cameras at?

Anyway, I don't know. Now sure what Panasonic will do. Although I get the feeling they will do SOMETHING interesting.

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10 hours ago, IronFilm said:

The GH5S sensor could already do that speed. 

In fact the Z Cam E2-M4 ("same" sensor) does 4K 160fps 10bit internal!

There are only a few things the would make the Z Cam closer to the perfect Micro 4/3 cinema camera.

1. SDI output (and/or less lag on the HDMI output) (like the Red Komodo)

2. Better internal RAW like BRAW. (like Blackmagic Products)

3. On chip electronic variable ND filter as you have to use an EF mount if you want variable ND (Like FS5 etc electronic variable ND filter)

4. Mini XLR's rather than Lemo 5-pin. (like the Pocket 6k Pro) (this is not that big of a deal but would make the audio capabilities more obvious)

5. Larger touch screen display (like the Red Komodo) (Can be controlled for an external monitor or wifi app which works fine)

6. Higher resolution sensor when available.

I hope the GH6 will get some of the above and still have in camera image stabilization and hopefully 8k 16:9 internal recording capabilities...

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13 hours ago, majoraxis said:

There are only a few things the would make the Z Cam closer to the perfect Micro 4/3 cinema camera.

1. SDI output (and/or less lag on the HDMI output) (like the Red Komodo)

2. Better internal RAW like BRAW. (like Blackmagic Products)

3. On chip electronic variable ND filter as you have to use an EF mount if you want variable ND (Like FS5 etc electronic variable ND filter)

4. Mini XLR's rather than Lemo 5-pin. (like the Pocket 6k Pro) (this is not that big of a deal but would make the audio capabilities more obvious)

5. Larger touch screen display (like the Red Komodo) (Can be controlled for an external monitor or wifi app which works fine)

6. Higher resolution sensor when available.

I feel perhaps 1 to 4 is only another generation away, perhaps? (a Z Cam E3-M4??)

5. they've already got a touch screen display option
6. 4K I reckon is plenty:

 

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