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terrible rolling shutter. very bad. slow mo 1080 looks very bad also. 
looks like it will no be the so expected decent hybrid for some. Don't care so much about improvements on AF over a6300, as I wont be buying expensive sony lenses. And it would be good to have good 1080p - not always with time to process 4k, and can't afford another computer just for 4k yet. Also from the footage looks like this will be terrible hand held. 

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16 minutes ago, tomastancredi said:

terrible rolling shutter. very bad. slow mo 1080 looks very bad also. 
looks like it will no be the so expected decent hybrid for some. Don't care so much about improvements on AF over a6300, as I wont be buying expensive sony lenses. And it would be good to have good 1080p - not always with time to process 4k, and can't afford another computer just for 4k yet. Also from the footage looks like this will be terrible hand held. 

Geez. It's so badly shot. If you're going to judge the camera, judge it from something decent for heaven's sake.

I hardly think the rolling shutter will be any worse than the 1D C, A7S II, NX1, GH4 or many other 4K cameras, many of them much more expensive than $999

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30 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Geez. It's so badly shot. If you're going to judge the camera, judge it from something decent for heaven's sake.

I hardly think the rolling shutter will be any worse than the 1D C, A7S II, NX1, GH4 or many other 4K cameras, many of them much more expensive than $999

from max : Yup. If it's one clip your talking about in particular or the most it was shot with 85mm 1.4 Gmaster which is equivalent to about 130mm so hand holding that focal length without optical stabilization is not good smile emoticon I shouldn't have used the clip but was in too much of a rush to chage it.

51 minutes ago, tomastancredi said:

terrible rolling shutter. very bad. slow mo 1080 looks very bad also. 
looks like it will no be the so expected decent hybrid for some. Don't care so much about improvements on AF over a6300, as I wont be buying expensive sony lenses. And it would be good to have good 1080p - not always with time to process 4k, and can't afford another computer just for 4k yet. Also from the footage looks like this will be terrible hand held. 

Copied from video description: This is a rushed video made for a competition. Video could be no longer than 2 min and I finished it 3min before the turn in cutoff. No color grading or correction done, straight out of camera. And a lot of thing I would change if given just 15 more min, but still want to share with you. All this video was shot with fully auto focus with a few shots using the focus hold to keep the focus on a subject like the bars. The footage of the wakeboarding was mainly shot on a 70-200 F4 at 200mm F4 (so 300mm with the a6300) and the shutter was cranked way too high as we wern't provided ND. Most if not all were standard picture profile (off) maybe 1 or 2 Cine 2 but not sure. Overall very impressed with the video AF tracking. Even though it doesn't look like the subject is far, they are actually really far and coming a far distance to me. I'll have a separate video testing the autofucus this was just a quick video for the competition. Didn't have access to timelapse app for this camera and it would not install for those who had it, so time-lapse was just 4kvideo sped up.

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I tried to grade a footage of the a6300 found on Vimeo, just to play.
For a test I used this video by Gordon Laing, shot in 4k UHD @ 24p mode at 800 ISO with Picture Profile 8 (S-Log 3).

Below the ungraded and graded frames.

Banding and macroblocking in sky on the graded frame.
This appears when I converted S-Log 3 to LC709 using DaVinci Resolve included LUT.

a6300-slog3-test1-ungraded.thumb.jpg.604

a6300-slog3-test1-graded.thumb.jpg.a6165

(Attached, the LUT of this look in .cube format, if someone is interested.)

Experimental look #1 for Sony a6300 (S-Log 3).cube

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Is it just me or 1080p looks rather soft? I am comparing it with down scaled 4K version on HD monitor. I think Samsung is doing a much better job producing 1080p with minimal rolling shutter and fairly decent sharpness(surely it's not as sharp as 4K version, but difference is not as dramatic).

1080p:

 

4K

 

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Guys there is a fact that when you upload a 4K footage on Youtube or Vimeo, when you look at it, it looks nicer, and sharper than if you downscaled yourself before uploading on 1080p on youtube or vimeo...

Compressors on these platforms don't do the same work if your upload is 4K or 1080p... This is like that !!!! And that's the Wayyyy it is !!!!! (for the 80s lovers !!!! lol)

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Nicolas, I've downloaded original 100Mbit versions from vimeo, not whatever they reencode for general viewing. Those are original files which come from the camera. Gordon makes them available for download if you are registered vimeo user.

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14 minutes ago, alexO said:

Nicolas, I've downloaded original 100Mbit versions from vimeo, not whatever they reencode for general viewing. Those are original files which come from the camera. Gordon makes them available for download if you are registered vimeo user.

Woops... sorry... Ok.

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11 hours ago, liork said:

Indeed, looks like rolling shutter, bad.

It isn't present in any of the other footage, so probably the IS briefly lost it's mind at that particular point.

4 hours ago, alexO said:

Is it just me or 1080p looks rather soft? I am comparing it with down scaled 4K version on HD monitor. I think Samsung is doing a much better job producing 1080p with minimal rolling shutter and fairly decent sharpness(surely it's not as sharp as 4K version, but difference is not as dramatic).

1080p:

4K:

Keep in mind that the NX1 shoots HD at 80 mbps using a more efficient codec, so it will probably hold detail better.

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In Max´ video A6300 has obviously higher resolution than G7, also details in the shadows instead of mud.

Regarding the shadow detail it looks like a codec issue of the G7 with noise reduction dialed up too much in the profile.

 

 

 

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