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So you mean just about every camera ever until a few years ago?

Cinematography itself hasn't changed much really. Where I work we for the most part still use gear mostly from the S35 days, all that has really changed is the cameras and we are starting to use more and more led lights. 

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26 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Didn't the A7s2 have ibis

Oh did it? Sorry. Again not my video just saw this random guy work, and found his video quite great looking and natural. In a time where we go for 4K gimbals and super strong AF (myself included) it’s nice to see what you can do with an old lens and basic stuff. 

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5 hours ago, wolf33d said:

 

A7S II + canon FD 35mm 40$ lens. No IBIS, no AF, with Sony colors that people can't live with, no 4K. 

Cool video.

I know that 4K / colour science / AF / etc are not required for film-making, and I know that you also know that.  

It kinda makes me question though... I thought that most people here know that too.  Do you think that there are lots of people on this board that don't understand these things?  We all get excited by the tech, but when it comes to the art I thought we all calmed down a bit and regained perspective.

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11 minutes ago, kye said:

Cool video.

I know that 4K / colour science / AF / etc are not required for film-making, and I know that you also know that.  

It kinda makes me question though... I thought that most people here know that too.  Do you think that there are lots of people on this board that don't understand these things?  We all get excited by the tech, but when it comes to the art I thought we all calmed down a bit and regained perspective.

Not Jon, although... he took his rage to youtube comments ?

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22 minutes ago, kye said:

Wow..  did he?  I guess he'd probably be pretty bland on YT considering the extreme toxicity there!

Where is Jon?! Point me ton his comments. I missed his vitriolic attitude!

DISCLAIMER: this is going to the general topic.

To the point now, most professionals work with M focus, with non IBIS cameras and deliver 1080p, and the percentage must be something like 95% of the total world output, or even more. Because 400 people on youtube use  only AF and IBIS doesn't make it the norm. For everyone youtuber there are dozens of hundrends of photo/videographers, from 50€$£ videographers (yes, they do exist and they use mainly camcorders on a monopod) to Hollywood and Bollywoodameramen amd everything in between.

I see most people here do care for youtube or something, but real life is a lot different than the latest war on specs, and the world is not only Australia and North America. The vast majority of the world still work with 70D and C100 cameras and produce glorious - low bitrate - 1080p videos!

Professionals and big production companies do not change cameras at a whim, only a few, and "rich" hobbyists (rich, in comparison with a 2nd or 3rd world country hobbyist, which, you know, is something like 6-7 billions of people!). So, the adaptation of technology is not as fast as we think from this forum.

Most people and organisations I know still shoot Canon by the way. 80D is like a dream for them. There are a few cameras that made a dent in the industry. C100/C300 was the first wave, FS5/FS7 the last few years (after the C300mkII release, Canon have lost most of the market), GH4/5, A7sii/A7iii are some other cameras that sold really well.

 

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12 hours ago, wolf33d said:

Oh did it? Sorry. Again not my video just saw this random guy work, and found his video quite great looking and natural. In a time where we go for 4K gimbals and super strong AF (myself included) it’s nice to see what you can do with an old lens and basic stuff. 

It had 4k too

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15 hours ago, Kisaha said:

Where is Jon?! Point me ton his comments. I missed his vitriolic attitude!

I see him everywhere instigating & acting like he didnt do anything. 

Here you can see him telling someone to go do drugs & liquor. That person called for people to calm down & stop attacking everything (sony fan boys on z7 vid). 

Btw: You can read his recommendations on torture porn at his website... https://jonpais.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/torture-porn-for-the-discerning-moviegoer/

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19 hours ago, Snowbro said:

Just dont ask it to autofocus ?

 

If your subject is in a small area and not moving very far or fast, I found the original A7s AF was ok (IE a singer that stays put around a microphone stand).

For very low light and for stills it will auto focus when almost every other camera has long given up and gone to bed.

For AFC?  no, just no.

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8 hours ago, Snowbro said:

I see him everywhere instigating & acting like he didnt do anything. 

Here you can see him telling someone to go do drugs & liquor. That person called for people to calm down & stop attacking everything (sony fan boys on z7 vid). 

 

Is he banned on this site, or juat taking a brake?

It is funny that most people going from here, to the general audiences, like DPR and youtube posts. EosHD seems like the college of Visual Internet Debate!

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