zerocool22

I understand what rolling shutter is.
Let me explain even more clearly.  If I pick up a camera and shake it while recording, I get motion in the footage because the camera is pointing in a different direction when each frame was exposed.  This is called camera motion.  If that motion is caused by something like a smooth pan or tilt or is very gradual and smooth, then the motion will have a certain aesthetic, but if that motion is not smooth, but is very jerky with lots of small motion, then it will have a different aesthetic.
Engaging a Global Shutter so that the whole frame begins and ends it's exposure at the same time (hey look - I did know what a global shutter is!) does not negate the fact that the camera is facing a slightly different direction each time a frame was exposed.  IBIS, on the other hand, actually does negate the fact that the camera is facing a slightly different direction each time a frame was exposed, and under the right situation, will remove that motion from the footage.
I get that you dislike the aesthetic of RS, and so switching to GS "fixes" it for you, but I dislike jittery camera motion, which GS does not fix.
I'd link to a video explaining the differences between IBIS and GS in order to reflect back your level of condescension when you fail to understand what someone is saying and automatically respond by thinking you're smarter than them, but I don't think that anyone would have made a video on the topic because the differences are obvious.  Or so I thought.

I think you are more a hater then anybody is a fanboy over here.

I think you are more a hater then anybody is a fanboy over here.

you gonna call everyone a canon fanboy? I just said the camera is worse than garbage and gerald went soft on them. 
I like how suddenly he is the most respected of them all lol. 
You are becoming quite an annoyance on here. 

I've taken a similar approach to my travels in having multiple setups as backups.  Considering that although my trips are holidays, they're similar in that we're away from major cities with electronics stores, we have tight schedules that aren't flexible, and I won't want to repeat the same one for lost footage so it's a now-or-never kind of thing.
I went through my whole setup looking for single points of failure and eliminating them.  I have multiples of every item and can, at a pinch, have anything fail and still continue shooting.  The only weakness of the setup was that my backup body wasn't that great.
Also, because I had backups of everything I essentially have duplicate setups, and so can film things from multiple angles if I choose to.
I disagree.  IBIS can reduce and even eliminate hand-shake to create smoother and even locked-off shots, whereas global shutter means that whatever movement is there isn't removed, it's just far less objectionable.  Also, IBIS on wide lenses can combine with lens distortion and RS to create wobbling that global shutter does not introduce.
So IBIS and GS both have strengths and weaknesses, but aren't equivalent.  They're different tools for different jobs.

I don't like what the Aivascope Anamorphic adapter does to this footage.
 

You could just as easily say the S1H is the best mirrorless camera out there if you don't need great AF or the A7sIII is the best if you don't need photos larger than 12MP.  Knock enough of the cons out of the 'for and against' discussions cos you don't need or care about them and you have a winning camera.  Incidentally Sony has greater DR, and colour can be as much about grade, not to mention subject to what you like and prefer.  
No camera will be winning the best mirrorless contest anytime soon.  They're all flawed in crucial ways.

Color, aliasing free, motion cadence, smoothness. incredible. That's where the money is atm. 4K , 6k, 8k are worthless without those.

It is. Pro cameramen don't go to a gig without a couple of cam units at least anyways.

Same with the Canon R5 $3800 in the U.S and about $5500 in the UK
To compare Panasonic S1H is $4000 in the U.S. and about $4700 in the UK 
Sony and Canon marketing teams in Europe are taking the piss

Am I the only one who got buffled by a A7S3 US vs Europe price tag difference? Its 3500 vs 5000$ if we do the conversion, a 43% difference! Are they out of their fuckin minds? Yes, I know that the US price doesn't inculde taxes, but they are not even remotly close to 43%. 

Then just buy an EOS-r and spend the rest on a nice holiday. Or me for giving you this top tip  

So we can get the worst AF in the industry? Thanks but no thanks. 
Canon should just put a passive cooling system à la A7S which is much easier for them to do than for Panasonic to have a great AF. 
Unfortunately for some weird reasons Canon decided not to cool the R5. Pretty sure someone at top management said « well at least that recording limitation will differentiate with our Cinema line. »

What if the R5 did not overheat would you still go the A7S III route?

Btw I read in a previous post about the canon RF cooling adapter. Found some article about it ==>
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/canon-designs-additional-adapter-to-fix-canon-eos-r5-overheating-issue-1705356-2020-07-28

Quote from Clermond on dvxuser:
I was in the field for about 1.5hrs at about 37°C. The camera was in the very hot car before.
My iPad case melted on the dashbord. I was shooting 4K25 HQ and 4K50 HQ. 28 clips from 30sec to 3mins,
125GB in total. The only thing that overheated was I myself. The CFexpress card was very hot when I out it out.
I just checked some files mostly for focus. I really like what I see. 19hrs on the feet. Time for some sleep.

I don’t get this idea. The person that knows they need a C200/300/500 are not going to buy an R5 in place of it!
They are separate markets.
Typically someone that is in the market for a R5 isn’t going to be like, shit, I’ll spring and spend an extra $10,000 for the C500.
If anything they will buy what they need, C200/300/500 and get a couple of R5/6 in addition not in replacement.

Not asked of me I know, but if it was not for the overheating controversy (and whether that would even be an issue for my own hybrid needs I don’t know at this time), it would be my first choice right now.
A pair of them matched to the RF 28-70 f2 and 85mm f2 and I’d be set and never need to change a lens or use a monopod as I do now.
That 28-70 is a beast...but it’s a featherweight compared to my current combo of; Sigma 18-35, Fringer Pro, Anker powerbank and monopod (with XT3). Replace all 4 of those items with the 28-70 f2 would be a dream.
And that is my consideration, - the sum of the whole kit and not just the camera body.
The Sony looks good as a pure video tool, but has 3 strikes against it for me; colour, IBIS, 12mp. Could I live with it? Maybe, but only if it was the best option out there and for me it isn’t.
My hope is they either sort the Canon or at the very least it turns out to be OK for my needs.
The XH2 will need to have zero compromises to beat a sorted version of this Canon. And I’m a Fuji fan.

No camera is perfect. We all have different needs.
S1H is Netflix approved as it is one of the only large sensor hybrids that check marks their capture requirements ie. Timecode, high bitrate 10-bit 4:2:2 Log, DCI 4K, Anamorphic support. Of course the fact it has an active cooling system and won't overheat doesn't hurt. Narrative work rarely requires AF lenses so AF simply isn't an issue. It also has all the cine cam features like LUT assist, vector scopes etc.
But for hybrid shooters, solo video shooters, vloggers, youtubers etc. AutoFocus is crucial, especially in FF which rules out the Pannys.
R5 vs A7S3. Tough call. On paper, R5 should destroy A7S3. It has 45MP, 8K, DCI 4K, Better IBIS, better ergonomics, internal RAW.
..but in the real world, all that means nothing if your camera can't operate because it overheated.
so by default, it would seem A7S3 wins. However if you're an outdoor shooter in warm weather, A7S3 may overheat even faster than R5. 
and when A7S3 overheats, it completely shuts off while it appears R5 allows you to switch to pixel-binned 4K.. but HQ recovery times are long.
A7S3 does appear to be the safer bet if you're hard pressed for an upgrade. But if you already have an A73, is 12MP non-oversampled 4K really worth the 4200€ investment? Maybe for the HFR & 10-bit. I'll let you be the judge. Personally I'm not rushing in to buy either, hate being a beta-tester to first gen e-products.
 

What if the R5 did not overheat would you still go the A7S III route?

I should have posted the link : https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon EOS R5,Sony ILCE-7RM4
 

Not to stir things up, but is the overheating an issue with the a7siii as well? I’ve seen some issues people had. Is this just marketing that everyone bashes Canon but not Sony? I don’t own either and don’t plan to, but just curious why everyone got hell bent on destroying Canon but it doesn’t seem to be discussed with Sony. Or is it not an issue with Sony? 
 
https://youtu.be/tgcp8wXAUZY

Yes, these EOS R5 footage looks incredible.
I only use the ACES CLog conversion, no grading at all, and already looks fantastic.

Really wish someone upload some nice footage from the A7s 3 like that one, so we can play with it.
And hope that Canon come up with something that doesn't take 5 years to do.
At least sony throw their best codecs into a mirrorless.
But for now I will keep my pocket 4k.
Its not full frame but colors and codecs are really nice to work with.
 

Unfortunately I tend to believe that future of m43 as looks dictated with position in Panasonic's plans is pretty bad. Panasonic team simply don't wish - or don't dare - to offer m43 camera that is far above in--the-field capabilities of their FF line, let alone EVA line... but moment of technology is quite such. All that FF line still severely struggle to bring even at lower (I mean mostly mostly capable LSI and codec and bit/bitrate wise) level, m43 already matured. Simply, Panasonic team IMO is also captivated in some sort of market autism that today is common for all Japanese manufacturer.
There's simply no wide place for 4000+ euros prized photo-body cameras. There also was no place for highly restrictive GH5s for 2500e without daring to give RAW but with daring to cut off IBIS because of task of gluing camera to moving car - and even more for such long keeping price at that level. Population of younger and aspiring dreamers or even more ambition travelers (even at Western countries that rapidly lose their previous standard) has no money for overheated price lust - they don't want to endlessly dispute about specs, salivate about sensor size, 10% more or less Bokeh, DOF, etc. - but to learn, create and promote themselves as distinctive creative individuals.
And at the moment when Japanese manufacturer finally are forced to drop their lust for more than 200% profit margin, BM's clever, more spec wise friendly and more honest in offering products already eat up most of the wider circle (out of die-hard AF users) market. 
Also unfortunately, after several misleading states about GH5s (totally false or deliberately misleading quoting of true usable DR, about cheap reason for omit of IBIS, misery of argument for stubborn keeping destructive NR algorithm etc) by mr Frazer, I concluded that he is just logically and predictable boastful front man without any decision relevance.

Not really.   I never asked for 8K... or even 120fps 4K.. maybe some did, I didn't.  In fact, what I was hoping for was a Canon version of the S1H camera with their own colour science and AF.  
Still waiting....