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This is what I have started to tell myself too. It may come down to me owning two cameras, One for still and the other for video or just as back up. 
That is my hope too. This camera to me will give me a clear path in terms of gear purchase for a while. I am hoping that Sony give it 24mp, 10 bit color, and 4k 60p full frame or slide crop. I will be happy with that. 

I'm still thinking about maybe switching to Sony or Canon for better AF in video cause I am often shooting as a one man band, and AF would be very appreciated. But I can't help thinking that my Panasonic S1H and even my newest S5 after the future firmware has still the edge in video besides AF and slow motion: 
- much better color science
- much better IBIS
- better video tools (waveform, vectorscope, shutter angle, etc)
- a unique LCD implementation (tilt and swivel)
- 6K (though I don't really use it that much but still)
- very useful S35 crop mode in 4k and even pixel pixel in 1080p
- no overheating whatsoever 
- better tactile implementation (Sony improved it a lot but still not the same quality as Panasonic and Canon)
- 4k DCI 
- better ergonomics (arguably Panasonic has the best ergonomics of all the hybrid full frame cameras, and I say this as a former A7III and Canon EOS R owner)
- Possibility to choose linear focusing and even the length throw with native lenses from Panasonic and Sigma recently wich is not possible on Sony lenses
- better hybrid usability if you need to shoot stills and video 
- Timecode
- Real anamorphic recording modes
- ProRes RAW up to 5.9K (up to 4k in the Sony)
- Etc.

So yeah I'd be glad to have a better AF, but truly giving up all those things I listed before, it feels like I would downgrade in some ways.
@andrewreid what do you think of the comparison. As of now, what would you choose between those two?

I thought @Andrew Reid’s piece was excellent. Useful insights.
The rest of the thread proves one thing - we are all looking for different things from our cameras/tools.
“Brilliant” that we have so many to choose from.
I’m enjoying my Siii.

3k anamorphic mode on the mini!!  why not on the pocket cinema 4K? Any ideas, anyone ever asked black magic?

3k anamorphic mode on the mini!!  why not on the pocket cinema 4K? Any ideas, anyone ever asked black magic?

I experienced a lot worse with my Z 6 than he did and yes it does hunt but mine is just piss poor. And I did my test in 1080 24p not even 4k! The AF-F with mine didn't work most of the time. I had to use the back button AF to get it to focus. I will not use mine either with AF and Nlog, but comparing mine to his AF performance with Nlog and 10bit, it looks like his is almost usable. I guess I could have added that it does hunt a little. I have had the A7III for 2 months and used the Canon 5D IV for a week so I have some reference in term of AF performance from other competitors to compare the Z 6 with.

Anyone familiar with or have used Feiyu Tech gimbals to comment about their quality? Another gimbal option for the BMP4K I just stumbled across is the Feiyu Tech AK4000 and I am actually considering or the Moza Air 2. 
 
 

Video of the BMPCC 4K on the Moza Air 2 and the Moza iFocus. My only issue with it is, the gimbal by it self weighs 1.5kg!!
 
Who's selling this with the free Moza iFocus?

I received my Z6 the other day and this is my quick first impression and usage after 2 days. Before I pre-ordered the Z6 I rented the Sony A7III and used for a month and was considering buying it.
The Z6 feels very solid in the hands. You immediately get the confidence you can use it in any weather condition without worrying too much. It fits well in the hands.
The EVF and screen in nice, big, and sharp. The buttons have a nice feel to it.
The menu; a lot simpler than the Sony. I have to say I am fairly familiar with Nikon menu system from past usage but if you were to give both cameras to someone who has never used a Sony or Nikon before, their learning curve on the Nikon menu system will be fast. Within 30 mins, I will say I was very comfortable with where everything was on the menu.
I only have the 24-70 f4s lens and I am quite impressed with that lens and the IQ I am getting with the Z6 and that lens. Even more impressive is the low light with that F4 lens. This camera may turn out to be the king of low light with other cameras at that price point.
Video AF; sorry Panasonic I am so happy for you for your latest firmware update on the GH5/s but Nikon completely beat you at video AF on their very first attempt on a mirrorless camera! It’s quite impressive, I dare to say on par with Sony. Moreover, you get face detect AF when shooting 4k! On the video side of things, this camera is very capable! Of course, it doesn’t have the advanced video tools the GH5/s has but for most of the hybrid shootings I do, I will be ok.
I wish this camera had is eye AF like Sony and better tracking when shooting stills. Eye AF is quite handy and useful when it works. 
There is quite a latency with this camera with what you see on the LCD and EVF, worse than any camera I ever used. 
I am still testing to see how long the battery will last compared with my time with the A7III, but I don't think it will measure up to the A7III.
Overall so far, I think Nikon did an ok job with their first attempt in the mirrorless world. Are there things that need improvement, most definitely! For my kind of hybrid shooting, I think the Z6 will keep me going for a while.
One last thing, I like their mobile phone and camera app (Snapbridge). The only camera that compares is Panasonic. (I have tried Fuji, Sony, Panasonic, and Nikon) It still amazes me how camera companies still haven’t yet made communication between the camera and mobile device effortless.
Off to more shooting and testing. 

I received my Z6 the other day and this is my quick first impression and usage after 2 days. Before I pre-ordered the Z6 I rented the Sony A7III and used for a month and was considering buying it.
The Z6 feels very solid in the hands. You immediately get the confidence you can use it in any weather condition without worrying too much. It fits well in the hands.
The EVF and screen in nice, big, and sharp. The buttons have a nice feel to it.
The menu; a lot simpler than the Sony. I have to say I am fairly familiar with Nikon menu system from past usage but if you were to give both cameras to someone who has never used a Sony or Nikon before, their learning curve on the Nikon menu system will be fast. Within 30 mins, I will say I was very comfortable with where everything was on the menu.
I only have the 24-70 f4s lens and I am quite impressed with that lens and the IQ I am getting with the Z6 and that lens. Even more impressive is the low light with that F4 lens. This camera may turn out to be the king of low light with other cameras at that price point.
Video AF; sorry Panasonic I am so happy for you for your latest firmware update on the GH5/s but Nikon completely beat you at video AF on their very first attempt on a mirrorless camera! It’s quite impressive, I dare to say on par with Sony. Moreover, you get face detect AF when shooting 4k! On the video side of things, this camera is very capable! Of course, it doesn’t have the advanced video tools the GH5/s has but for most of the hybrid shootings I do, I will be ok.
I wish this camera had is eye AF like Sony and better tracking when shooting stills. Eye AF is quite handy and useful when it works. 
There is quite a latency with this camera with what you see on the LCD and EVF, worse than any camera I ever used. 
I am still testing to see how long the battery will last compared with my time with the A7III, but I don't think it will measure up to the A7III.
Overall so far, I think Nikon did an ok job with their first attempt in the mirrorless world. Are there things that need improvement, most definitely! For my kind of hybrid shooting, I think the Z6 will keep me going for a while.
One last thing, I like their mobile phone and camera app (Snapbridge). The only camera that compares is Panasonic. (I have tried Fuji, Sony, Panasonic, and Nikon) It still amazes me how camera companies still haven’t yet made communication between the camera and mobile device effortless.
Off to more shooting and testing. 

I received my Z6 the other day and this is my quick first impression and usage after 2 days. Before I pre-ordered the Z6 I rented the Sony A7III and used for a month and was considering buying it.
The Z6 feels very solid in the hands. You immediately get the confidence you can use it in any weather condition without worrying too much. It fits well in the hands.
The EVF and screen in nice, big, and sharp. The buttons have a nice feel to it.
The menu; a lot simpler than the Sony. I have to say I am fairly familiar with Nikon menu system from past usage but if you were to give both cameras to someone who has never used a Sony or Nikon before, their learning curve on the Nikon menu system will be fast. Within 30 mins, I will say I was very comfortable with where everything was on the menu.
I only have the 24-70 f4s lens and I am quite impressed with that lens and the IQ I am getting with the Z6 and that lens. Even more impressive is the low light with that F4 lens. This camera may turn out to be the king of low light with other cameras at that price point.
Video AF; sorry Panasonic I am so happy for you for your latest firmware update on the GH5/s but Nikon completely beat you at video AF on their very first attempt on a mirrorless camera! It’s quite impressive, I dare to say on par with Sony. Moreover, you get face detect AF when shooting 4k! On the video side of things, this camera is very capable! Of course, it doesn’t have the advanced video tools the GH5/s has but for most of the hybrid shootings I do, I will be ok.
I wish this camera had is eye AF like Sony and better tracking when shooting stills. Eye AF is quite handy and useful when it works. 
There is quite a latency with this camera with what you see on the LCD and EVF, worse than any camera I ever used. 
I am still testing to see how long the battery will last compared with my time with the A7III, but I don't think it will measure up to the A7III.
Overall so far, I think Nikon did an ok job with their first attempt in the mirrorless world. Are there things that need improvement, most definitely! For my kind of hybrid shooting, I think the Z6 will keep me going for a while.
One last thing, I like their mobile phone and camera app (Snapbridge). The only camera that compares is Panasonic. (I have tried Fuji, Sony, Panasonic, and Nikon) It still amazes me how camera companies still haven’t yet made communication between the camera and mobile device effortless.
Off to more shooting and testing. 

This actually look really good! I like the music too. Did you do work in post to minimize breathing compared to the previous core DNA or is breathing improved in the ProtoDNA? Is this going to replace the coreDNA? 
The link of your write up doesn't work. 

I like the Zhiyun weebill lab for it's small size, shape and weight. It would have been my perfect gimbal for the P4K if it balanced without counter weights and if the video transmission function worked with the P4K (This camera will benefit quite a lot from that functionality without it's tilted screen). But clearly at it's currently state it's not a match for the P4K. Zhiyun have to redesign or make a version for that camera. At this point it's either the more bigger Zhiyun crane 3 lab, Ronin S or Moza air 2. Moza air 2 is the cheapest of all 3 and so far works with the P4K. I hope Zhiyun can make a version of the weebill lab for P4k soon! 

I like the Zhiyun weebill lab for it's small size, shape and weight. It would have been my perfect gimbal for the P4K if it balanced without counter weights and if the video transmission function worked with the P4K (This camera will benefit quite a lot from that functionality without it's tilted screen). But clearly at it's currently state it's not a match for the P4K. Zhiyun have to redesign or make a version for that camera. At this point it's either the more bigger Zhiyun crane 3 lab, Ronin S or Moza air 2. Moza air 2 is the cheapest of all 3 and so far works with the P4K. I hope Zhiyun can make a version of the weebill lab for P4k soon! 

Video of the BMPCC 4K on the Moza Air 2 and the Moza iFocus. My only issue with it is, the gimbal by it self weighs 1.5kg!!
 
Who's selling this with the free Moza iFocus?

These Koreans have excellent style and posture!
I thought the Weebill would be P4K ready, I do not like all these mods to make a very modern and recent gimbal to work.
I will be waiting for the official release, but I believe they will have something ready for it very soon.
They are also from the same continent (the Weebill bird and the Black Magic company), so they have to figure it out!

It's true that for stills, a full frame camera is the way to go for me, every time. I have a cheap old Sony A7 that serves me well. I despise the menus and the form factor is not comfortable, logical or sensible but it does take lovely professional raw stills.
For video, however, I am so happy with m43 and APS-C sized cameras. Better rolling shutter is a BIG factor in why. Cost is another! The horrendous UI of Sony A7 series cameras is another. I still don't have my Pocket 4K but I anticipate it will be one of my best ever camera investments.

You are right, fast glass on APS-C can produce the FF look. 
But I have used MFT, APS-C, and full frame cameras to shoot on many different projects. My favorite photos were those taken on full frame, I found myself liking that look a lot.  

This guy talks about the core SWX Powerbase Edge in this video. 

Panasonic and Sigma ones will be normal priced. Just the Leica will be expensive. 
Anyway, 2019 is gonna be exciting. We know at least 1 FF mirrorless  will be 4K60fps now. Let’s see the A7SIII 

Jesus,what a bunch of whiny baby some of you are! It's a camera announcement six months before release, and you're crying, complaining, and passing judgement because they didn't give you all the specs in intimate detail. They probably don't even know what the full specs are yet, as a lot of development will happen over the next 6 months!
every time a new cameras is released, I'm reminded of why I can't stand most artistic types, you all seem to be perpetually malcontent!

Because it's licence free other manufacturers should be able to implement it on their current or future cameras? If it's licence free and open source so other NLE will be able to implement it, what does BM stand to gain? 
This will definitely make me keep my BMP4K pre-order.  

I will take a great looking image with great skin tones any day over good spec sheet. As far as I am concerned,  Sony can put the best tech in the A7S III but if it's still classic color science and skin tones, then my search for a new camera hybrid camera will continue. I pre-ordered the Z6 and I look forward to first trying out the Z7 to see how I will like or not the Z6. I am keeping my eyes opened on the up coming Fuji XT-3. Canon, I am not holding my breath!  

Value for money wise and besides the small size of this camera why will someone spend $7999 on this camera instead of the $7999 on a Sony Fs7 if video is primarily what you shoot?

I'm very, very interested in this 2x anamorphic adapter for use with my GH4. Now, if only the GH4 could record in 24p when in 4:3 4K Photo mode...
Would the SLR Magic 25mm f/0.95 be a good match for the Anamorphot?