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Either these reviewers don't know what they're doing or R3D NE is not exactly repackaged NRAW. Nlog is noticeably softer, in both NRAW and h.265. 

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R3D details is close to SDR h.265, even at second base ISO.

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Even the skin tone is different

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43 minutes ago, ND64 said:

Either these reviewers don't know what they're doing or R3D NE is not exactly repackaged NRAW. Nlog is noticeably softer, in both NRAW and h.265. 

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R3D details is close to SDR h.265, even at second base ISO.

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Even the skin tone is different

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That would make sense. Why would Nikon buy Red, introduce RedCode Raw into a camera and trick everyone by using NRaw and calling it RedCode? Seems kinda pointless. I am no expert in coding, but wouldn't it make more sense that Nikon had to implement R3D into the "language" that communicates with their processors. So R3D was reconfigured slightly. Just a guess, but has anyone tried to rename the R3D files as NRaw... I would guess that it works. 

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5 hours ago, ND64 said:

Either these reviewers don't know what they're doing or R3D NE is not exactly repackaged NRAW. Nlog is noticeably softer, in both NRAW and h.265. 

Screenshot_20251003_165043.thumb.jpg.0939892019bca438ea134b618df352bb.jpg

R3D details is close to SDR h.265, even at second base ISO.

Screenshot_20251003_165149.thumb.jpg.2e429d68a55380a3ca5c9fab95d757fd.jpg

Even the skin tone is different

Screenshot_20251003_164957.thumb.jpg.922f15471e61f46ae5a978ab2ca76dc8.jpg

Do you have a link to the video? For me, this could be just a sharpness setting or the person might be moving slightly. One thing this tells me, is that the H265, is not as bad as some people have made it to be. 

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7 hours ago, ND64 said:

Yea, definitely NRAW has baked in NR/sharpness, R3D NE is pure and clean.

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Different post-processing pipelines and their settings for N-RAW and R3D NE may be what is causing such differences and not necessarily different primary data in the file, unless the person making the video actually used the renaming hack. However, of course it is possible that the data are different in the files. However, sharpening images and storing them in the raw format makes no sense as the images are not in RGB format at that time. Sharpening in that phase could mess up the colors so I doubt they are doing it.

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44 minutes ago, Ilkka Nissila said:

However, sharpening images and storing them in the raw format makes no sense as the images are not in RGB format at that time.

Maybe NRAW has a metadata piece that automatically activates a default value of sharpening and noise reduction in Davinci that you can't set to zero. They should compare the files in REDCINE-X Pro.

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2 hours ago, ND64 said:

Maybe NRAW has a metadata piece that automatically activates a default value of sharpening and noise reduction in Davinci that you can't set to zero. They should compare the files in REDCINE-X Pro.

Default value of sharpening for NRaw in Resolve is defined in Project setting Camera Raw page and it seems to be 10 out 100 and you CAN set it to zero. Sharpness can be then adjusted on clip level too. With sharpness set to 10 NRaw looks clean, but calm, not over sharpened

For Red Raw Resolve has Image detail that can be set to low, medium and high.

Z6iii NRaw files pretty surely do not have default noice reduction when you compare same file named to NEV and R3D with R3D’s chroma NR activated. 

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