Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K

[cantsin 1]

3 hours ago, froess said:

Hmm... I don't agree. Swappable mounts it's a feature that I think they will leave on the higher end models. 

If you look at the design of the housing, it's pretty clear that the bulge in the middle isn't just a mount, but contains the whole sensor. So my bet is still on Ricoh GXR-style swappable sensor+mount modules where the 4k option will be the 12 stops/400 ISO 1" sensor from the Micro Studio & URSA Broadcast, and the 14 stops option will be the 1080p sensor from the old pocket/Micro Cinema.

 

[andrgl 241]

6 minutes ago, cantsin said:

If you look at the design of the housing, it's pretty clear that the bulge in the middle isn't just a mount, but contains the whole sensor. So my bet is still on Ricoh GXR-style swappable sensor+mount modules where the 4k option will be the 12 stops/400 ISO 1" sensor from the Micro Studio & URSA Broadcast, and the 14 stops option will be the 1080p sensor from the old pocket/Micro Cinema.

Disagree. They wouldn't use the Pocket brand on swappable mount cam.

[jonpais 3,124]

I guess we'll find out very shortly. 

[webrunner5 2,461]

I hope it doesn't mean I have to have a rig like this one to use it!!! There is a Sony A7s mk II in there someplace believe it or not.

http://www.icgmagazine.com/web/next-level-filmmaking/

 

[andrgl 241]

 

Just now, jonpais said:

I guess we'll find out very shortly. 

Yeah exactly. Still it's hard not get excited and think about all the different stuff we'll learn:

• frame rates
• dynamic range
• ProRes RAW support
• recording media
• sensor size
• lens mount
• battery type

[BTM_Pix 4,523]

Great discussion going on about these images over at BMCUser

They're analysing them like its the Zapruder film !

[Santiago de la Rosa 41]

PLEASE S16, 13 stops, MFT, 4k Raw+Prores, better screen and battery.

Ah and same price that original pocket at launch.

I hope MFT Speedbooster will work on the Pocket 2.

[froess 25]

15 minutes ago, cantsin said:

If you look at the design of the housing, it's pretty clear that the bulge in the middle isn't just a mount, but contains the whole sensor. So my bet is still on Ricoh GXR-style swappable sensor+mount modules where the 4k option will be the 12 stops/400 ISO 1" sensor from the Micro Studio & URSA Broadcast, and the 14 stops option will be the 1080p sensor from the old pocket/Micro Cinema

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It's just speculation on your part. It's not that it's a bad thing having swappable mounts, but I just don't see that happening on the pocket.

[jonpais 3,124]

Are swappable mounts a bad thing? that's the feeling I'm getting reading these comments... 

[webrunner5 2,461]

That would be extremely complex to pull off. That original sensor is so far behind in low light ability in this day and age, why the hell even bother today. That has always been BM's knock on their cameras. Why continue the trend. I sure hope they progress, not stay the same. I am not paying big money for a camera with a top  usable ISO of 800 now.

[cantsin 1]

11 minutes ago, froess said:

It's just speculation on your part. It's not that it's a bad thing having swappable mounts, but I just don't see that happening on the pocket.

Look at the picture - the middle bulge is so far recessed into the camera housing that the sensor needs to sit inside there. There's simply no other space for it. The only speculative question is whether that middle bulge is a swappable unit or not.

And, again, a swappable design like the Ricoh GXR (which is about as compact as the BM Pocket) makes sense if BM doesn't have a sensor yet that can deliver both 4K and high dynamic range.

The swapping could only be about the sensor, not the mount - all those sensor modules may have MFT mounts.

 

 

[froess 25]

1 minute ago, cantsin said:

The only speculative question is whether that middle bulge is a swappable unit or not.

 

 

Yes, I agree. That was what I meant by speculation on your part.

[cantsin 1]

6 minutes ago, froess said:

Yes, I agree. That was what I meant by speculation on your part.

Yes, but based on the fact that the middle bulge is not a solid part of a one-piece camera housing, but looks like it sits in a bay. 

The two big switches right and left from it could be for locking and unlocking the sensor modules.

[BTM_Pix 4,523]

Put the picture in Photoshop and raise the shadows.

You can see something written on the bulge.

[webrunner5 2,461]

Then maybe it is just, which would be a big deal, moveable EVF.

[cantsin 1]

9 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

Put the picture in Photoshop and raise the shadows.

You can see something written on the bulge.

You can see it even without Photoshop (on a calibrated monitor) - it says "Blackmagic Design", putting the manufacturer logo above the lens as with so many other cameras.

6 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Then maybe it is just, which would be a big deal, moveable EVF.

No, because then all operation buttons would be on the wrong side, and you don't put an accessory screw mount on a lightweight, moveable part.

[webrunner5 2,461]

9 minutes ago, cantsin said:

You can see it even without Photoshop (on a calibrated monitor) - it says "Blackmagic Design", putting the manufacturer logo above the lens as with so many other cameras.

No, because then all operation buttons would be on the wrong side, and you don't put an accessory screw mount on a lightweight, moveable part.

They are not going to have changeable modules on it get real. The GR was a flop sales wise. Goofy, complex idea. Maybe it is a folding lens? Who the hell knows.

[Matthias Scheja 4]

[Santiago de la Rosa 41]

That last photo looks an MFT!

Is S16? How to Know it?

[webrunner5 2,461]

Well there is your answer. What ever it is LoL.