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On 1/10/2020 at 12:49 AM, ZEEK said:

Awesome Mercer! The 5D3 is such a great cam even in 2020! I have the 5D2 and the 14 bit raw amazes me still, especially with the Samyang Primes. 14 Bit RAW I also feel is better than the lossless. The lossless feels like a .png and 14 Bit feels like full raw with more colours to play around with and more detailed too, considering you're getting more bit rate mb/s. Some people can't tell the difference, but I can feel it when I grade and am sure you can too. 

Please make a comparison of 14 bit lossless and 14 bit uncompressed. Lossless means exactly what it does, if you compress and decompress an image with it, the result will be identical, byte for byte, not just visually.

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2 hours ago, Ilia3101 said:

Please make a comparison of 14 bit lossless and 14 bit uncompressed. Lossless means exactly what it does, if you compress and decompress an image with it, the result will be identical, byte for byte, not just visually.

I have done my own tests and will continue to do so. I personally feel the colour reproduction is slightly less degraded in the uncompressed and for the 14-bit RAW footage, in particular skin tones. There probably isn't a difference except in file size, but I like to push my grading in my spare time and just feel something different with the Uncompressed. Whi knowa i may be wrong, but I'll continue to grade lossless and uncompressed just for my own sanity sake and see. Cheers ?

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Lossless means what it says but just because something is called "lossless" doesn't in fact make it so.

Mercer and Seek have used ML cameras as daily drivers or, if not, extensively, so there's probably something to the difference.

A test would be good, nonetheless. I have a 5Diii and wouldn't mind testing out the difference and sharing the results here.

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On 1/10/2020 at 5:24 PM, mercer said:

I probably need to be happy with what I have, put my head down and get some work done.

I feel the same. So many capable cameras out now and then the 1Dx III on the horizon but 1080 RAW on the 5d III is so good that I just want more cinema lenses and to make more films.

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Please let me know if anyone is selling a mosaic engineering filter. Looking for anything that is meant for aps-c, not full frame. Thank you!

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hope i can also contribute to how awesome the eos m in 2.5K 3x crop is

"Wissenschaftshafen"

ML RAW 12bit
recorded at 2520 x 1054 in 3x Crop Mode
upscaled to 4096 x 1716
23,976 fps

export in MLV App with fixed dots etc.
edit in Davinci Resolve
grade in Davinci Resolve and FilmConvert Nitrate
Film Stock Fuji Velvia 100

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On 1/10/2020 at 1:32 AM, ZEEK said:

Honestly, you don't need an upgrade, maybe just a 4K side camera to fill that need. I have the GH5 as a 4K sidekick, but I now appreciate the Magic Lantern cameras more. They're better for my main needs, the gh5 is just for backup 4K if I ever need it. 

I have had pretty much all. 12, 14, 24, 35, 50 & 85 (never owned the 135mm although it looks nice). Now I just own the 35 & 50mm. Both great companions to the 5Dii and extremely sharp. They grade like Hollywood lens ? The 24mm was very nice, but the 24mm and the 85mm just feel like speciality lenses to use in certain situations which is why I sold them as I don't use them often. For landscapes and closeups, they're perfect! Might consider the 85mm again.

I love both the 5D and the EOS M. The 5D is overall better with low light and dynamic range. The dynamic range gives the 5D2 a high end camera feel. Without an ND on a bright day, I'd have to stop the EOS M to about F22, with the 5D2 it's like F11. I love crop sensor cameras as well as the portability. The 5D2 I feel overall provides a more detailed and visually pleasing cinematic look. Really love it, won't give it away.

With dual iso, it has 14 stops of DR, just need to get the settings working. Pentax K lenses also go well with the Canon Full Frame if you file the back correctly. 

Here is the latest eos m film I did, not sure if you've seen it, but it's probably the best work in terms of colour I have pushed on the EOS m:

I use both the 5D2 & EOS M equally as much. 

That's beautiful, this thread has peaked my interest in tinkering with a 5d 2/3 and ML raw to shoot my beach sunset stuff. I just don't want to pull the trigger on a cinema camera yet (mostly because I'll need more than just cards to make one work) and I have access to EF lenses. Searching for a cheap 5d now...

Chris

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49 minutes ago, Trek of Joy said:

That's beautiful, this thread has peaked my interest in tinkering with a 5d 2/3 and ML raw to shoot my beach sunset stuff. I just don't want to pull the trigger on a cinema camera yet (mostly because I'll need more than just cards to make one work) and I have access to EF lenses. Searching for a cheap 5d now...

Chris

If you can afford it, I recommend getting the Mark III for full 1080p, the ability to keep the firmware constantly on an SD card while you record on CF cards, the OLPF Filter, etc...

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2 hours ago, mercer said:

If you can afford it, I recommend getting the Mark III for full 1080p, the ability to keep the firmware constantly on an SD card while you record on CF cards, the OLPF Filter, etc...

Thanks, I can so that's the direction I'll go.

Chris

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