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Yes, the Youtube influencer machine is awful, but Gerald is the least offensive offender. He does all technical reviews, true, but at least he does a thorough and honest job. Only CVP is anywhere close to the usefulness of his reviews from a pure tech standpoint.

Yes, the Youtube influencer machine is awful, but Gerald is the least offensive offender. He does all technical reviews, true, but at least he does a thorough and honest job. Only CVP is anywhere close to the usefulness of his reviews from a pure tech standpoint.

Maybe save that criticism for the Matti Haapoja's and Peter McKinnon's of YouTube and not the guy that does rather dry long form reviews and regularly criticizes the things you think he's trying to sell?
I say this as a very vocal critic of the YouTube filmmaking bubble. I don't always agree with Gerald but it's ridiculous to act as though he's looking to maximize clicks and affiliate sales. His videos would be under 10 minutes and feature him pouring coffee (gotta get that pouring sound!), riding a one wheel around, and otherwise pretending to have a far more exciting life than he does, all while talking about how awesome x is and that you should definitely check those affiliate links down below! 
At least be fair if you're gonna criticize the guy. 

Pretty surprised but I could play back the new 8k Raw codec in DaVinci Resolve on a three-year old iMac (souped up at the time however). I have always edited in Premiere but it's pretty insane how much smoother DaVinci is with everything. Need to make the full switch.

That's what I was thinking - about an 8:1 compression. Whatever this compression ratio is, I'd LOVE it if they brought it to 4k in the the C300 III, C200, and any other future 4k raw cameras. 8:1 is sort of the sweet spot for quality and file sizes. For 4k, that would probably be closer o 400-600mbps, which is the same or a bit more than All-I.

The 8k RAW Lite is the same file size as the 8k All-I on the R5, they should definitely do that to their other camera.

GH6 kinda has to have some giant features to compete in a full-frame world. 
 
PDAF and internal NDs seems to be the two big ones for sure, but timecode, high frame rates in 4K and 6k, and black magic and ProRes raw would all help. 

If the GH5S had good AF it would have been an insanely popular camera I think for many creators.
A GH6 with good PDAF and decent lowlight and features that rival BM Pocket cameras would be an insanely popular camera.
If they added internal ND and PDAF to anything it would be an insanely popular camera.
I would like to see it, because a GH6 with oversampled 4K, internal ND, PDAF, full vlog and one of those fast but cheap MFT primes would make a great b-camera for me and I suspect a lot of others. The total package would be small and fast to deploy 

Just imagine if Atomos release a new Ninja Star for ProRes Raw - or BMD do something similar for Braw. I'd buy one, or both in an instant.

The S1H is quite fantastic. The only need it doesn't fill for me is VFR. Once Panasonic puts something out with a good 120p I'll be set. 

The S1H still has the best image of any camera under $10k, in my opinion. And I've used a lot of them. They need to put out an EVA-2 and S2H (or S5H) asap with update AF and they'll be good. I will probably use Panasonic cameras in the future for IQ alone, but AF, 120fps 4k, and a few other of the new bells and whistles are very useful in cameras like the C70, FX6, and this FX3. I'm still not sure Sony has fixed their color and IQ issues fully and their WB seems to be way off - but I'd like to test. FX3 would be excellent if the A7sIII didn't exist, and frankly, the A7sIII shouldn't exist, not the other way around. 

Putting the R6 through its paces during winter school break. Shot in 8-bit standard profile using a mix of 4K & (100FPS) FHD on a 2K timeline. Various AF modes were put to use (Face Priority, Face & Object tracking). Camera was set to Auto-ISO.
Overall I'm pretty happy with this camera, given the sub $2.5K pricing. No fancy features just solid IQ, AF & IBIS. Zero overheat even at the beach today with 20 celsius. Of course I will keep testing but my confidence with Canon is somewhat restored, I will probably go with a C70 down the line for more pro work.

The S1H still has the best image of any camera under $10k, in my opinion. And I've used a lot of them. They need to put out an EVA-2 and S2H (or S5H) asap with update AF and they'll be good. I will probably use Panasonic cameras in the future for IQ alone, but AF, 120fps 4k, and a few other of the new bells and whistles are very useful in cameras like the C70, FX6, and this FX3. I'm still not sure Sony has fixed their color and IQ issues fully and their WB seems to be way off - but I'd like to test. FX3 would be excellent if the A7sIII didn't exist, and frankly, the A7sIII shouldn't exist, not the other way around. 

Yeah, I'm over Matti and Peter and that whole crew of YouTube influencers with their increasingly worthless camera "reviews" and their endless blogs about their hipster lifestyles. Back in the day they actually posted useful videos about shooting and editing techniques, plus their shtick was new and interesting at that point and not totally played out. 0f course, I've come to learn that some of their tips, like how to conform 60p footage to a 23.976 timeline were ass backwards and causing problems with a proxy workflow. 
Gerald Undone, on the hand, is still pretty good on his reviews. I did watch his review of the FX3, and it's pretty spot on. It hits a lot of the same points as folks on this thread have brought up, including that the biggest real differences between in at the A7SIII are the tally lights, lack of viewfinder, button changeups and the handle with integrated XLR module. He makes a great point that if you are a video first shooter who doesn't really care about the EVF and does care about XLR mics, than the FX3 is a bit cheaper than the SIII and an XLR module. Other than that, it's pretty much the same princess in a different dress.

What annoys me the most is how some youtbers in those reviews are already saying how this camera is the best mirrorless option for serious filmmaking. Cinema camera my ass ! The S1H is still the king of professional video centric mirrorless ! It has everything that this Sony FX3 doesn't have as a proper cinema camera :
- 4K DCI (even 6K)
- Anamorphic modes
- Shutter angle
- Synchro Scan
- Possibility to import Luts in camera
- waveform, etc.
How those "reviewers" could forget how much the S1H is more suited to professional video shootings than this FX3 !

Well, Panasonic was working on something:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/18/22289331/panasonic-farting-cat-robot

Remember the Panasonic Varicam S35 is even older than the EVA1, and it still has seen no new release to replace it. 

But then again, they're still seeing usage! I'm about to start this week on a popular tv series shooting this season with 3x Panasonic Varicam S35 cameras. 

If the FX3 has the same image processing, autofocus and eND as any of the other FX cameras it'll be a no-brainer I think especially given its price tag. If it comes with the Sony Alpha processing (strong sharpening and noise reduction) they can keep it. 😉

I am testing the FX6 soon to see if its color and IQ are closer to C300/C70 than FS5II/A7sII before making any decisions (because if it still feels like old Sony image, I'm out).
But this camera still excites me as the ideal B-Cam to something like the FX6 or FX9. Every other cinema camera lacks a true, compact, mirrorless-like b-camera (same mount, some color, same codecs, same sensor size, same lenses, etc). I would get WAY more excited if it has: timecode, a 3.5mm input on the body, S-Cinetone, and touchscreen AF.
Those features plus all of the new Sigma lenses, the move to full-frame cinema, Zeiss Loxia line (which I loved), all make the E-Mount a very exciting possibility. BUT, all the specs, bells, and whistles don't mean much if I'll be wishing I had my old Canon image a year later.

Awesome thanks! 
And totally agree that Alpha cameras (A7iii, A7sii, etc) are pretty awful from a video image quality standpoint. But Venice and FX9 have always been way better so if the FX6 is close to that, that's pretty great. 
On that topic, I think that will be a big differentiator between the A7sIII and the FX3. Does the FX3 look more like the FX9, FX6, Venice? Or more like the A7sIII, which, in my opinion, still has that pretty awful zombie-skintones that have plagued all of the Alpha cameras and the FS5. It looks better, but not that great compared to stuff I've seen from FX9/6.
 

I am testing the FX6 soon to see if its color and IQ are closer to C300/C70 than FS5II/A7sII before making any decisions (because if it still feels like old Sony image, I'm out).
But this camera still excites me as the ideal B-Cam to something like the FX6 or FX9. Every other cinema camera lacks a true, compact, mirrorless-like b-camera (same mount, some color, same codecs, same sensor size, same lenses, etc). I would get WAY more excited if it has: timecode, a 3.5mm input on the body, S-Cinetone, and touchscreen AF.
Those features plus all of the new Sigma lenses, the move to full-frame cinema, Zeiss Loxia line (which I loved), all make the E-Mount a very exciting possibility. BUT, all the specs, bells, and whistles don't mean much if I'll be wishing I had my old Canon image a year later.

I am testing the FX6 soon to see if its color and IQ are closer to C300/C70 than FS5II/A7sII before making any decisions (because if it still feels like old Sony image, I'm out).
But this camera still excites me as the ideal B-Cam to something like the FX6 or FX9. Every other cinema camera lacks a true, compact, mirrorless-like b-camera (same mount, some color, same codecs, same sensor size, same lenses, etc). I would get WAY more excited if it has: timecode, a 3.5mm input on the body, S-Cinetone, and touchscreen AF.
Those features plus all of the new Sigma lenses, the move to full-frame cinema, Zeiss Loxia line (which I loved), all make the E-Mount a very exciting possibility. BUT, all the specs, bells, and whistles don't mean much if I'll be wishing I had my old Canon image a year later.

Moved to ‘sitting on the fence’.
I’m less interested in a pure ciné camera and more interested in a video centric hybrid.
The final spec vs cost vs Panasonic S5 will decide for me.
And yes I know the humble S5 is not it’s competitor but it’s the camera that currently ticks more of my boxes than anything else.
Second place is joint Fuji XT4 and Sony A7Siii with Fuji losing points due to lack of lenses that suit my needs and Sony on being ‘only’ 12mp and price.
We are still at least one single component away from my ideal spec, my S5 in two areas: video tracking AF and no internal ND or at least drop in filter.
The FX3 is certainly shaping up to be less of a contender than it was a week ago when it was heading for near dead cert territory.
The lack of any form of ND, internal or drop in is the biggest disappointment. If the speculation/rumors are true... 

True. But always a first - S1H is the first mirrorless camera to get it and then they added it to the S1 through the flash-sync port (I believe), so definitely possible. That's the main reason the S1H is Netflix approved and Sony would be smart to include it if they expect a lot of FX9 and FX6 owners to pick this camera up. 
 
 

It does seem a tad strange. unless the guy above is wrong and it has internal variable ND - then the camera instantly becomes very, very intriguing, especially if the IBIS rumor is true. But Sony has said before that having both IBIS and ND is nearly impossible, so I'd guess it will be one or the other.
However, I'd say the A7sIII is the lazy inclusion if the FX3 is true because this, IMO, is a way more thought-out and useful video camera than the A7sIII. Love the dedicated buttons for WB, ISO, etc. Love the mounting points. Love how they did the top handle. Love that it is cinema focused and probably has the same color and S-Cinetone like the FX6. Love that it looks like the screen can tilt while staying center to the body. Love that it has focus magnification (does the A7sIII do this while recording?). I just love it.
I've shat on Sony for many years because I did think the color and IQ of the A7sII, FS5, and (to less of a degree) FS7 was way behind the competition. BUT, I must say the FX9 and FX6 do seem to look much, much better. 
In my experience, every FS7/FX9/FX6/C300/EVA1/etc owner has a second B-Cam that is often a mirrorless for gimbal shots, 2nd interview shots, and as a backup camera. But no camera manufacturer has given them a TRUE b-cam (same sensor size, same mount, same color, same IQ, same general usability, etc). Canon has the C70, but still a bit too big for what I'm talking about and is the only Canon cinema camera with the RF Mount. Panasonic has the S1H, but it doesn't have an L-Mount A-Cam.
But THIS Sony FX3 is nearly perfect, it seems. Along with ND, the other big inclusion needed is timecode. If you can jam this with FX9/FX6/audio and just have it on standby on a gimbal or a drone or wherever you need it, that would be so, so nice.