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No, Samyang, Rokinon and Bower are all the same

Thanks, yeah, I ended up 2x sometimes 3x my sequence. But still ended up with blurry end results after encoding. So I ended up encoding in same sequence width and height, then used a program called GIF Brewery, which had tons of more options while finalizing. They look great now, but hate when clients ask for weird ass deliverables. Last week I made 3 intro videos for Queen Latifah, Katie Couric and Madonna Badger for their talk at Cannes Lion and they asked me to send them 720p 0.6Mbps finals, I was like, uhhh okay?!
 
Well well, THANKS FUZZ

The robotic movement I think can be squarely blamed on the gimbal.
From what I can see, the 90% of basecam gimbals suck at smooth movement. Maybe it's from it's origins as a stabilizer system on drones, but the motion part is very artificial, but the stabilization works.
By smooth movement, I mean watch the beginning and end of pans, tilts, or other movement.  That's where it looks robotic when it "snaps" into place, or had weird ramping.
But you can try zhiyun stuff.  I started using zhiyun crane, still using crane v2. I think their custom solution does smooth motion a lot better, so for the average person it's easier to use.
But zhiyun lacks the other featueres for useage on vehicles or fast movement, you will notice it reacts to gforces by tilting. You can test by using even 50mm and running forward, you will see the frame tilt down.
Even though I'm leaning towards preordering (I just cancelled but thinking of ordering again), I'm dreading the poor robotic movements I'm assuming they haven't tweaked out.
In regards to the heavy lenses... It really depends on what camera and why you are using it.  I don't think there's much of a point in using the sigma's unless you camera supports AFC with them, otherwise you cant keep anything in focus with shallow dof.  If you aren't using it for shallow dof, then there's no point in using a heavy f1.8 lens!
You can YouTube videos of moza air and crane 2 showing them working with sigma 18-35mm.  I don't think the 50-100 will balance though.
I had a faulty tilta g2x and it did balance a7iii and Sony GM 70-200, but because the teles are so heavy you have to rebalance if you switch lenses which I won't do during run and gun.
I'm used to gh5 and the Trinity of 7-14, 12-35 and 35-100.  You just need to slide the plate back and forth and you're good to go (not perfectly rebalanced but good enough). Unfortunately there's nothing like that for full frame (in terms of similar lens size and easy lens change on gimbal), but hopefully Tamron will make something magical happen with a lightweight 2.8 zoom tele.
My suggestion is get a used crane or crane v2 and see if it's your thing, they are so cheap now... Like I'm sure you can find one for like 200. If you find it useful then you can go from there.

Long and heavy lenses are notoriously harder to balance, no matter the gimbals' maximum payload. If you choose a one-hand-gimbal, you might want to keep it lighter, if possible.  Follow my (very personal, wedding videographer owning Ronin M and Zhiyun Crane) reasoning or find your own arguments:
1. The angled roll-motor of the Ronin S doesn't obstruct the cameras' display. Now it seems that this lets you forgo an additional external monitor. But does it? Depends on whether you just need to frame the image - and that's possible even with the considerably lighter Moza or Zhiyun with the motor in front of the screen - or, other story, if you need to focus manually. Because you have no or a poor autofocus. In this case, most camera displays won't be sufficient anyway. Probably. And you needed a free hand (one-hand-gimbal literally) or someone else to pull the focus (watch the promotion video). Heavy gimbal, heavy lens, field monitor, follow focus add up to a total weight not suitable for longer shots and longer shoots.
2. What is it that you expect from gimbal shots? Majestic crane moves or buttery smooth dolly shots through empty architecture? These are possible even with heavier setups (because they run just seconds), but they require more or less the same skills a steadicam operator must have, hashtag ninja walk. Also be aware that the Ronin S also stabilizes just three axis, and that there are more:
(these flexible arms can also be added to existing gimbals, see here).
3. But there is another purpose. You can follow a person. If you consider yourself a good handheld operator, you won't need to practice an awful lot with a good gimbal, set up well (see next point). There are roughly two scenarios for a wedding: shooting static telephoto images with very long lenses, from a tripod or handheld with IBIS and OIS, and do the rest (we are talking *hours*, therefore you will learn to hate every unnecessary ounce!) with the gimbal and 24-35 mm full frame equivalent focal lengths. 50% of all footage you see in films and TV shows fall into that latter category.
4. Well set up means the gimbal will ignore little shakes (I think that's called dead zone) and smooth out your big, intentional moves. As of now, there is a limit to the speed of pans and tilts, because if you move too fast, the gimbal will of course follow, but the movement will look robotic (because that's what it is). The Ronin S advertises a 'sports mode', and again, watch the official promo:
I think this feature is the most outstanding one of this gimbal. But one has to be aware how it should be used. Shooting a staged breakdance? Fine. Documentary style (like a wedding)? I'm afraid then it was too heavy.
 

My dear erstwhile member can you please stop attacking John Brawley now.
I have long since given up on camera forum arguments so might not be completely up on who is right and who is wrong-evil / killed-a-kitten, but can we tone it down a bit. It's JB! We could be learning so much and having such interesting cameras talks with a film industry guy and I am sure one of the only people with a Blackmagic Pocket 2 prototype yet instead a handful of you are just bitching. It's pointless. Even if you disagree with him on certain matters, hold your tongue a bit for the benefit of the rest of us who are interested in what he has to tell.

This is ridiculous guys. Maybe there should be a 'bullshit' thread? 
Is it a good idea to talk about the projects people hope o have this camera in time for? I'm shooting a film festival in September and really hope I have this in my bag by then.

Work in advertising and haven't really had much time for my own projects the past years. But I am releasing a music video in June that I directed, shot (handheld BMPCC), edited and colored. 
For now, this is my latest, for mother's day:
 

Work in advertising and haven't really had much time for my own projects the past years. But I am releasing a music video in June that I directed, shot (handheld BMPCC), edited and colored. 
For now, this is my latest, for mother's day:
 

Work in advertising and haven't really had much time for my own projects the past years. But I am releasing a music video in June that I directed, shot (handheld BMPCC), edited and colored. 
For now, this is my latest, for mother's day:
 

Work in advertising and haven't really had much time for my own projects the past years. But I am releasing a music video in June that I directed, shot (handheld BMPCC), edited and colored. 
For now, this is my latest, for mother's day:
 

I do not like hyperbolic language ("garbage", etc.) and I think that subjective opinions on how videos look ("looks plasticy") do not add much value (but are interesting). However,  I think that worse are personal comparisons that imply that some poster's opinions are more worthy than others'. While I think that is of course true, the weights placed are purely subjective and the criteria not obvious. The best videographer or DP might be a total ignoramus about anything but the camera he or she uses, or a paid shill for some manufacturer, or a poor communicator, or be logic-challenged, or see everything in black and white (not literally!). And an armchair enthusiast who never shot a video might know something others do not and have exquisite tastes regarding video art. Or someone may know more about optics, sensors, or production techniques without ever even seeing a video. Most respected critics of art (including film) do not paint or shoot. "Greater minds" is not conducive to free discussion - should there be prerequisites for posting (submit your videos, or take a test - which camera has the best low-light performance? why is 8 bit better than 10 bit? write down all the perks you have ever received from manufacturers )?
Yours truly, a lesser mind.

Jesus we get you are not going to buy the God Damn thing. Give it a rest!

It depends. A juggernaut in the retail camera space like B&H may get a line of credit in the form of net 30 or net 60. So if you pay B&H $1400, $1200 goes to Black Magic. So let's say B&H sold 100 cameras in pre-order. They will probably get a shipment for 120 and they will owe B&H the cash on the 20 in 30 or 60 days.

God forbid you have to twist the end of your lens to focus on something. What is this, 2017?

I agree with you mercer, sorry Jon. Been skipping your comments cause all you keep talking about is that damn GH5. Little Pana-fanboy on the line? Can we stick to the subject OF Pocket4K here?

Oh God, here we go... you have been making spiteful comments about other people’s comments on the GH5... 
Sorry I was wrong about the italics... I reread it and realized you were quoting someone who was quoting someone... my bad.
And finally... Jesus Christ Jon... which is it... you love the GH5 and need no other camera because it’s better than the Pocket II or do you want the Pocket II? Seriously, these oddball conversations you are having are becoming nonsensical.
The funny thing is that I can completely skip your portion of the conversation... which is a lot and still follow the general thread. 
And honestly I really don’t care if you take my camera advice. But for someone that goes to such lengths to defend the GH5, then why bother spending more money on another camera... it’s not like getting a Pocket II is going to change your videos that much. You are putting quality work out with the GH5 and from my experience, BM cameras are different beasts.

You guys need to learn how to hold your cameras correctly, and also how to pull focus. I have a few Cannes lions under my belt and I’ve shot with no ibis, non active lens mounts and finally NO AF for the past 7-8years. This camera is crazy insane, and also it’s freaking 1400dollars with tax!!! Like what stuff do you guys even shot?!

You guys need to learn how to hold your cameras correctly, and also how to pull focus. I have a few Cannes lions under my belt and I’ve shot with no ibis, non active lens mounts and finally NO AF for the past 7-8years. This camera is crazy insane, and also it’s freaking 1400dollars with tax!!! Like what stuff do you guys even shot?!

You guys need to learn how to hold your cameras correctly, and also how to pull focus. I have a few Cannes lions under my belt and I’ve shot with no ibis, non active lens mounts and finally NO AF for the past 7-8years. This camera is crazy insane, and also it’s freaking 1400dollars with tax!!! Like what stuff do you guys even shot?!

You guys need to learn how to hold your cameras correctly, and also how to pull focus. I have a few Cannes lions under my belt and I’ve shot with no ibis, non active lens mounts and finally NO AF for the past 7-8years. This camera is crazy insane, and also it’s freaking 1400dollars with tax!!! Like what stuff do you guys even shot?!

You guys need to learn how to hold your cameras correctly, and also how to pull focus. I have a few Cannes lions under my belt and I’ve shot with no ibis, non active lens mounts and finally NO AF for the past 7-8years. This camera is crazy insane, and also it’s freaking 1400dollars with tax!!! Like what stuff do you guys even shot?!

Well got my preorder done from B&H! Let’s see how backordered this one will be!
 
So can I use my BMPCC speedbooster on this? I don’t want to rebuy my glass.

Yeah, no audio here either

God I wish BMD comes out with something new this year at NAB within price range... otherwise I think I might jump on the wagon of GH5 users with this release (if it’s up to par with what everyone is wishing for that is).

I think I'm going to go ahead and update my BMPCC to a BMMCC finally. Mostly because EVERY SINGLE CLIENT is asking for slow motion, ha!
 
Anyway, I want to check in with you guys who own it, what should I get for it? My current "run and gun" set up with BMPCC is just a cage and a monopod for weight, and going similar with the BMMCC I assume I basically just need a monitor? Was looking at the SmallHD Focus? Both camera and display can run on Canon LP6. Should I sell my metabones (nikon BMPCC) and my Nikon lenses and do EF, or is that just too much trouble for nothing (I don't personally see a reason as I always focus manually)? Uhm, yeah hit me with everything you got about this! 
 
THANKS