jpfilmz

All these lack of “mojo” comments are really silly.  People will be able to color grade it to match just about any look they want. 

I like the pictures. A lot. 
This camera will probably replace the micro cinema camera for me as it’s not much bigger and is much easier to work with. 
I didn’t feel as strongly about the 4K production camera / Ursa because they were limited, principally by dynamic range.
I have a deep affection for the 4.6K sensor and have shot nearly daily withnit since before it was launched. I know it very well. 
This pocket camera will integrate and sit very nicely alongside the 4.6K. It’s already a closer match than the micro for me without having really tested it in an A/B scenario. 
I was a little worried about it having less DR Than the 4.6K but I think the other clips  show some great examples of what this sensor can do. “Nature” was incredibly tricky material to shoot as anyone who’s been in that situation before would know and it was unfair to see it being derided.  
Those that did so only reveal their own inadequate understanding of what those shots reveal. 
I can think of a million other scenarios I would have rather done but these sequences were specifically produced to illuminate what the camera can do in specific situations. 
What im almost more excited about is the unification that Gen 4 brings. As I mentioned earlier, it’s pretty much the same people at BMD that brought you the first camera working on this camera.
They’ve learned a lot (and so have I) and I think Gen 4 is really strong. I wish this and extended video would get rolled out wide already as I think half the issue I see with users of BMD products is a lack of knowledge in grading. 
Now BMD do have perhaps the greatest colour correction tool on the market BUT they don’t make it easy to get to a great result without a little arcane knowledge.
Even I often run into issues when working by myself and I see extended video being a great step in addressing that shortcoming. There’s no point in talking about how great you can make images shot RAW if you don’t know how to do it and can’t easily or intuitively find a way to do so. 
With regards to the 4k Pocket. 
Its a genuine low light contender. I was really impressed at what a useable picture it produces with little lighting.
I’m laughing at those that said it’s overlit. I mean a 500w chimera dimmed to almost nothing so the background lighting would still show though the tinted hotel windows is very very low light, much lower levels than the idiots demanding I walk out on the street and light by sodium were demanding.
Again, I laugh when I see comments about how noisy ISO3200 is but I’m guessing those users aren’t aware how much image processing their cameras are doing at high ISOs.  BMD allow you as the user to choose your poison. A very very underrated feature. And like colour correction it’s almost too powerful because users haven’t been instructed to change their expectations, nor how to add noise reduction or sharpening so they can season to taste. 
The best testbfootage will be friends users so the sooner they ship the cameras the better.  Hopefully Gen 4 means there will be less hysteria about its performance and a few will realise there’s no point comparing it to a GHx or a Sony and learn to get the most from what it is good at.
JB

All these lack of “mojo” comments are really silly.  People will be able to color grade it to match just about any look they want. 

I am very surprised by the comments about the lack of "film look" in the footage from new pocket. Sure, first two videos with skin tones test did not look perfect in this regard, but the rest? I watched all the clips and I still see this organic, "classic BMD look". But with better, more natural colors, more details etc. compared to original BMPCC.
 My favourite shots
I think that looks way more cinematic than BMPCC. Actually, if someone told me that the mirror shot was filmed with Ursa mini, I would believe him.
Also almost every camera (and lens) have his "weak" moments, I can found on YouTube high amount of BMPCC videos that looks extremaly digital, as if they were shot with cheap DSLR.

I think the color is just more accurate with the new Pocket 4K.  In the past the footage had more of a look to it, and now the color is better so you have to do that yourself.  Putting a heavy "look" on something makes it hard to judge the performance of the camera, so Blackmagic chose the route of grading it themselves and making sure it accurately represented the camera.
 
A lot of the Kinefinity Terra footage (especially Phillip Bloom's stuff) is hard to judge the color science of the camera due to haphazard and heavy grading.  I have no idea if Kinefinity cameras produce nice images because all of the graded material is very artistic.

I think we're just nostalgic.
When the Ursa Mini 4.6K first started shipping there were many many threads that were EXACTLY the same as some of the complaints on here....  Users complaining that the UM4.6K didn't have the same mojo / look / feel as the 4K sensor which at that point was in the Production camera, the Ursa and the Ursa mini 4K.
This is a new sensor.  
It has the same chef's in the kitchen, working with new ingredients.
Spend some time with the images, look at the RAWS when they're available and learn to get the most from it.  THEN come back and post about what you like or don't like.  But grading from a downloaded 264 and then writing it off as being inferior is a bit premature and simplistic.
JB
 

Is the 18-135 the stm version?  when the lighting conditions are good its my favorite handheld run and gun lens for the c100 due its light weight and stabilization.  It also can use the face tracking autofocus. see 1min mark below.
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAbB4dQOz4I
Mark Wyatt talks about using the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. ‘Nature’ is Mark’s test of the camera’s 4K performance in the extreme lighting conditions of rainforests and ravines.
“The camera tests I wanted to do were in the forests and waterfalls on the outer West Coast of Canada. I was really interested in seeing how the new sensor would handle these harsh lighting conditions. By increasing the ISO to an impressive 1250 and 2500, it allowed me to capture the dark moss-lined walls and unique emerald color, yet also hold onto the highlight detail of the top of the waterfall and sky. I feel most cameras would likely struggle with this scene.”
“I had the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K for only a few days, but overall I was really impressed by it. The weight of the camera is very liberating, especially when you are used to using larger camera systems. The screen is big and bright enough to use in daylight, which I found great for judging focus and exposure. And, the colors too on the screen, were also nicely represented. In fact, I would argue it is Blackmagic’s best screen yet.”
Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K
RAW 
ISO400, 1250 and 2500 
Sigma 18-35mm, Rokinon Cine 50mm EF lenses
Metabones Speedbooster to Micro Four Thirds

Yeah first time for me to hear the sensor actually get burned, unfortunately I did encounter Sony A7sII overheat and shut down on me.
 
 

 
This is the combo I use for event, unlimited recording time, full size HDMI out, long battery  (well C100mKII battery is much longer with bigger battery), and never overheat whatsoever.

Update from Apple that fixes throttling issues with the i9.  Im getting much better cpu performance with it.  
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/24/apple-addresses-macbook-pro-throttling/
 

A pretty strong comeback to the i9gate issue...
 

Yes.  4k is NOT needed for every job and sometimes you need a workhorse to get the job done camera that can perform multipurpose duty and pull solid image.   Long battery life, NDs, auto focus, wifi browser control, XLRs, SD dual sd cards, and ergonomically a breeze to use.  
 

Yes.  4k is NOT needed for every job and sometimes you need a workhorse to get the job done camera that can perform multipurpose duty and pull solid image.   Long battery life, NDs, auto focus, wifi browser control, XLRs, SD dual sd cards, and ergonomically a breeze to use.  
 

I think it’s the SLR Magic anamorphic primes they are using. IMO those lenses are garbage. They should have just rented some Cookes.

3.5k Crop Recording test.  I was able to get solid continuous recording with the settings below.
Raw Record Module/no sound
Resolution: 3520x1320  
Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1
Bit Depth: 12 Bit Lossless

Other notes.  I was able to easiy pull focus while recording in 3.5k mode using canon live view in 5x zoom.  Using the 3k 1:1 mode with a resolution of 3072x1308 & 2.35:1 ratio I could get continuous recording and pull focus after pressing the zoom button once and using a half press on the shutter button to get a clear live view.  With the half shutter the live view zooms in again allowing you to set focus.  It may seem fiddly but with these resolutions on a full frame I think it's one of the best ways to check focus.
 

I think jpfilmz is talking about the buggy LiveView on the LCD that still has some problems. It is probably better now since this statement was written by A1ex.
 
From A1ex :  April 1st, 2017.
         Where's the catch?

This is only a very rough proof of concept. It has not been battle-tested and has many quirks. Some of them may be easy to fix, others not so. In particular:

* It feels quite buggy. I'm still hunting the issues one by one, but it's hard, as Canon's LiveView implementation is very complex, and our understanding on how it works is still very limited.
* Write speeds are high. For example, 10-bit 4096x2500 at 15 fps requires 180 MB/s. 1080p45 should be a little more manageable at 111 MB/s.
* Canon preview is broken in most modes; you need to use the grayscale preview in the raw recording module.
* High-resolution modes (in particular, full-res LiveView) may cause trouble with memory management. This is very tricky to solve, as we only get 3 full-resolution buffers in LiveView, with restrictions on the order in which they must be freed, and lots of other quirks.
* Since these settings were pushed to limit, the risk of corrupted frames is high. If it happens, decrease the vertical resolution a bit (from the crop_rec submenu).
* When refreshing LiveView settings, the camera might lock-up (no idea why). Pressing MENU twice appears to fix it.

I think he means the view on the LCD?

Canon 70-200mm f2.8 II and I think the 24-70mm f2.8.  Definitely the 70-200 on the closeups.  The first 3 shot were mirror reflection shots.  If they could stabilize the live view the 5D3 would be a beast.

Not bad.  The 1080 does upscale to 4k nicely.  Here is a 3k to 4k upscale i did awhile back.  I still haven't found a camera that can match the color, detail, motion cadence of the 5DMK3 in raw unless I want to spend a fortune.  Canon could really truly rule everyone if they wanted.  It's such a tragedy.  :-(
 
 

Not bad.  The 1080 does upscale to 4k nicely.  Here is a 3k to 4k upscale i did awhile back.  I still haven't found a camera that can match the color, detail, motion cadence of the 5DMK3 in raw unless I want to spend a fortune.  Canon could really truly rule everyone if they wanted.  It's such a tragedy.  :-(
 
 

Not bad.  The 1080 does upscale to 4k nicely.  Here is a 3k to 4k upscale i did awhile back.  I still haven't found a camera that can match the color, detail, motion cadence of the 5DMK3 in raw unless I want to spend a fortune.  Canon could really truly rule everyone if they wanted.  It's such a tragedy.  :-(
 
 

Not bad.  The 1080 does upscale to 4k nicely.  Here is a 3k to 4k upscale i did awhile back.  I still haven't found a camera that can match the color, detail, motion cadence of the 5DMK3 in raw unless I want to spend a fortune.  Canon could really truly rule everyone if they wanted.  It's such a tragedy.  :-(
 
 

I have both. 5DMK3 Raw is very stable with the right cards.  I cannot go back to 8bit for anything except long form events.  The RAW work flow is really not a hassle and it's much like the workflow for handling RAW images. DNG creation is easy with the 5D raw files and from there its the same experience as editing blackmagic DNG files in Davinchi Resolve. If your looking for a raw camera for only video then I would recommend the Blackmagic Pocket ONLY if you purchase a speed booster to go along with it.  With the speed booster you will be able to shoot on par with a 5DMK3 in low light situations. The only weaknesses of the Blackmagic pocket is the chance of moire, poor battery life, horrible audio preamps(only remedied by using a videomic pro with +25 db set).  5D raw weaknesses, poor in camera playback and much shorter record times while using raw.  Below is some 5D Raw footage I shot at 2 weddings in 2015 scaled up to 4K. 

It can definitely look cinematic. I've been on the fence about this camera...but it's just to hard to ignore it's features per price.  Especially with the news of the new 400mb codec.
 

Also the Hero 6 was announced.