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If the cost of the XF705 is a bit rich for your blood the new JVC GY-HC500 at half the price (£3395+tax) might be for you. It also has a 1" sensor & can record 4K@50pHDR 4:2:2 10-bit video plus has a 20x power zoom. Interestingly it can record to SSD.
https://www.newsshooter.com/2018/09/11/jvc-gy-hc500-gc550/
https://cvp.com/product/jvc-gy-hc500-connected-cam

If the cost of the XF705 is a bit rich for your blood the new JVC GY-HC500 at half the price (£3395+tax) might be for you. It also has a 1" sensor & can record 4K@50pHDR 4:2:2 10-bit video plus has a 20x power zoom. Interestingly it can record to SSD.
https://www.newsshooter.com/2018/09/11/jvc-gy-hc500-gc550/
https://cvp.com/product/jvc-gy-hc500-connected-cam

Isn't that what just happened?

Isn't that what just happened?

I find it hilariously ironic that a couple of days after writing a post on "Why the camera press need to grow a pair of balls" decrying freebies & junkets that Andrew throws his toys out of the pram because BM didn't invite him to one of their junkets. Then Andrew declares that he is so pissed off with being snubbed that he is going cancel his pre-order of their camera. This all comes over as unbelievably petulant & childish behaviour.
Andrew then goes on to compound this by posting a ranting blog insulting John Bawley who is one of the rare professional cinematographers who posts on this forum. JB has nothing to do with whether Andrew got invited to the junket or not but that seems irrelevant as he just gets caught in the blowback of Andrew's rage.

I find it hilariously ironic that a couple of days after writing a post on "Why the camera press need to grow a pair of balls" decrying freebies & junkets that Andrew throws his toys out of the pram because BM didn't invite him to one of their junkets. Then Andrew declares that he is so pissed off with being snubbed that he is going cancel his pre-order of their camera. This all comes over as unbelievably petulant & childish behaviour.
Andrew then goes on to compound this by posting a ranting blog insulting John Bawley who is one of the rare professional cinematographers who posts on this forum. JB has nothing to do with whether Andrew got invited to the junket or not but that seems irrelevant as he just gets caught in the blowback of Andrew's rage.

You have proof that this isn't a fake? It's easy enough to create an impressive PDF showing whatever video specs that you want. That document is on Google Drive not on www.canon.com

You are stuck in today's video vs. photo paradigm. The technology already exists for dual ISO so why not dual shutter speed? or a still image taken at 1/250 or 1/500 or whatever taken in between each video frame or every 10th video frame & stored separately? There are so many different ways this could be accomplished. The 8 Megapixel stills that you can grab off a 4K timeline are sensational & can be used for any commercial purpose from wedding albums to magazine covers to billboards. 

As I said it depends on your requirements & none of the shots in that video were over a couple of seconds.

A nice demonstration that content is king & the technical limitations of the cameras are less important. Interesting blog post too. When I saw the drone shots I was amazed at how high & far you had the drone fly then I saw that you lost it but <spoiler alert> was happy that you found it again.
TBH with a slightly better gimbal to use with the G7 X there would be no need for the iPhone as it was the only 4K source.

You must be the one other person besides me who bought an AF100. It was the first affordable large sensor camcorder. I bought it at launch & had such high hopes of it replacing my GH3 & Canon 5D2s but unfortunately I hated it. I was so grateful when the C300 launched & I was able to replace the AF100. This really was a great large sensor camcorder with lovely image & colours & great ergonomics. The C300 was (& still is) an amazing camera. My circumstances changed & I no longer own the C300 but if I were still in the market for a camcorder it would be a C200 for 4K or a C100 for HD. The difference in ergonomics between the GH5 & Cx00 are night & day.

You must be the one other person besides me who bought an AF100. It was the first affordable large sensor camcorder. I bought it at launch & had such high hopes of it replacing my GH3 & Canon 5D2s but unfortunately I hated it. I was so grateful when the C300 launched & I was able to replace the AF100. This really was a great large sensor camcorder with lovely image & colours & great ergonomics. The C300 was (& still is) an amazing camera. My circumstances changed & I no longer own the C300 but if I were still in the market for a camcorder it would be a C200 for 4K or a C100 for HD. The difference in ergonomics between the GH5 & Cx00 are night & day.

A laptop is never going to be the ideal choice for video editing. You pay a premium for portability but lose out on screen size, CPU & graphics power. It's much better value to buy a desktop with a decent large monitor plus you get a more powerful upgradeable system.

A laptop is never going to be the ideal choice for video editing. You pay a premium for portability but lose out on screen size, CPU & graphics power. It's much better value to buy a desktop with a decent large monitor plus you get a more powerful upgradeable system.

ProRes is designed to be very light on CPU & does a great job at the expense of larger files sizes but that first system is a 2006 Mac Pro 1,1 & will not be up to the task of 4K video even with a graphics card upgrade.
The second system is a 2010/2012 Mac Pro 5,1 (or a 2009 4,1 that has had the firmware upgraded) & the hex core W3680 3.33GHz CPU is still a decent performer as CPU performance hasn't improved all that much over the last 10 years. That should handle 4K ProRes fine with an upgraded video card. However you need to look at the price carefully. It does draw a lot of power but is beautifully made & will chug through the work without missing a beat.
If you are not committed to Mac then a similarly specified HP Z400 Windows workstation with a hex core W3680 3.33GHz CPU can be bought for a lot less than half the price of a Mac Pro 5,1.

What is gained is the extra zoom from 200-600mm so that I only need one camera. I shoot more photographs than video nowadays & often wind up using the FZ1000 more because of the option of extra zoom from 200-400mm. At 1095g the RX10M3 is quite a bit heavier than the RX10M2 (813g) but even today I have to very deliberately go out with my pair of cameras but if I were to get an RX100 too then I would carry that on far more occasions.

Crap! The 5D2 is a great stills camera & is also capable of shooting absolutely amazing video with Magic Lantern RAW but also very decent cinematic video without any hacking. Just because there are newer more expensive cameras with even better low light performance & higher resolution that doesn't suddenly make the 5D2 a rubbish camera. Here in the UK you can buy a used 5D2 from Wex for £500 including a 12 month warranty. That's amazing value for the quality of the camera & the images it is capable of.
This video made over nine years ago before the 5D2 was shipping is what started the whole DSLR revolution (unfortunately for some bizarre reason there are no 1080p HD versions that I could find online any more)
If resolution & dynamic range is what you want then what about this shot with a  5D2 with Magic Lantern RAW?
 

12 minutes is about the same length of time as filming using 35mm cassette on a "proper" movie. It's only wedding videographers who obsess about the video limit. 12 minutes is a long time & ML does an auto restart if necessary so you lose less than a second.
I have owned both 5D2s & 5D3s. They feel almost identical in your hands. The build quality of both is exceptional. They will take a lot of punishment. I wouldn't worry too much about reselling a 5D2 in a few years. I doubt that the used price will drop much lower. Shutter count can't be relied on as a measure of how much use the camera has has as if it's been used mostly for video it may well have a very low shutter count.

The OP is on a tight budget & a used D750 is twice the price of a used 5D2. The 5D2 also gives the option of Magic Lantern RAW.

The OP is on a tight budget & a used D750 is twice the price of a used 5D2. The 5D2 also gives the option of Magic Lantern RAW.

Crap! The 5D2 is a great stills camera & is also capable of shooting absolutely amazing video with Magic Lantern RAW but also very decent cinematic video without any hacking. Just because there are newer more expensive cameras with even better low light performance & higher resolution that doesn't suddenly make the 5D2 a rubbish camera. Here in the UK you can buy a used 5D2 from Wex for £500 including a 12 month warranty. That's amazing value for the quality of the camera & the images it is capable of.
This video made over nine years ago before the 5D2 was shipping is what started the whole DSLR revolution (unfortunately for some bizarre reason there are no 1080p HD versions that I could find online any more)
If resolution & dynamic range is what you want then what about this shot with a  5D2 with Magic Lantern RAW?
 

The budget is perfectly reasonable. An adapter & decent manual lenses are cheap. I shot video on the 5D2 & 5D3 for years & never used a monitor.
The 5D2 was groundbreaking & still produces lovely images. OK it's not razor sharp 4K but that is part of the beauty of the image. The colours are great especially flesh tones. I was blown away when I first saw these clips posted by SmugMug founder Don MacAskill in November 2008 & immediately bought a 5D2 & sold my Canon XH A1 HDV camcorders These videos still look amazing
https://cmac.smugmug.com/Photography/Paris-and-San-Franciso-videos/i-NmGTgrh
 
 
 
 

Just for clarification. The 5DIII is not eight years old but just a tad over five. It shipped in March 2012. I took delivery of two of the first in the UK on 17th March 2012. The body only one was £2999 & the one with 24-105mm F/4L was £3689. Used a body only 5DIII is still worth £1000-1500.
I think that it's amazing that the Magic Lantern guys are still squeezing new features out of a five year old camera that is still a decent pro tool. It doesn't shoot 4K but the colours & the full frame look are still gorgeous.

Just for clarification. The 5DIII is not eight years old but just a tad over five. It shipped in March 2012. I took delivery of two of the first in the UK on 17th March 2012. The body only one was £2999 & the one with 24-105mm F/4L was £3689. Used a body only 5DIII is still worth £1000-1500.
I think that it's amazing that the Magic Lantern guys are still squeezing new features out of a five year old camera that is still a decent pro tool. It doesn't shoot 4K but the colours & the full frame look are still gorgeous.

Just for clarification. The 5DIII is not eight years old but just a tad over five. It shipped in March 2012. I took delivery of two of the first in the UK on 17th March 2012. The body only one was £2999 & the one with 24-105mm F/4L was £3689. Used a body only 5DIII is still worth £1000-1500.
I think that it's amazing that the Magic Lantern guys are still squeezing new features out of a five year old camera that is still a decent pro tool. It doesn't shoot 4K but the colours & the full frame look are still gorgeous.