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Anyone who buys this over a used GH5 should be diagnosed as clinically insane.

market shrinks > costs shared among users > higher prices

.. Z9 just got the new firmware bringing shutter angle and some WFM & zebra enhancements: ..these will surely trickle down to Z8, Z6iii. So another plus point for Z mount!

Well I’m not one to throw the baby out with the bath water as they say, but it’s certainly looking that my time with L Mount peaked and will stop at some point with the S5ii. That point will probably be when the ability to burn a lut into N-log happens. Prior to that happening…and assuming it will, then it doesn’t stop my S5ii working. Pretty sad if it’s the end of the road for full-frame. If…

Even as a freebie I don't want that lens. It's a waste of materials. At best it'll end up collecting dust in a drawer or worse, end up as waste in a landfill.

Needless to say, like everyone else here I was hoping for an S1 or S1H replacement.

Would it help to know they ALSO announced the TZ99? 🤣 https://www.dpreview.com/news/8943078360/panasonic-g97-zs99-tz99-refresh-usb-c

You thought Lumix had left behind DfD behind? You're wrong! What a shame.

Yes. That's right. Announced, not released.

I'm pretty sure they were announced at the same time and their release dates were pretty close to one another... about 4 months or so.

Yes you are right. I don't have a clear idea of why. It occurs to me that the basis is always the number of pieces produced. I don't have the numbers to state that, mine is just speculation. Off the top of my head, S5XIIs sell more than a GH7, so the initial investment is spread out over more pieces. Perhaps the same is true between the Canon R7 and R8.

Lumix really need to get the S1 and S1H replacement right, specs and price. I feel it could be the last roll of the dice for a great brand. If they get is right they can build on the S5mk2's success, if not...💩 Still, they should get me through the next 2-3 years.

I was referring more to the companies cannibalizing their own models. The pricing is out of control within their own camera lines. Look at Canon... the R8 full frame camera is cheaper than the R7 aps-c. In this instance, the main feature difference seems to be FF vs IBIS... I'm sure there may be other differences as well but that seems to be the biggest. Panasonic... S5iiX ($1999) vs GH7 ($2199). Full frame vs M4/3. The only other main difference is that the GH7 has internal ProRes Raw and 32bit float audio with the XLR handle and CF Express cards. That's not nothing but does it justify the GH7 costing $200 more? I guess you could argue that the GH7 is the flagship and the iix is not and I suppose the iix has been out for about a year longer. But even still? Maybe it's time that they consolidate their camera lines a little. Does Panasonic really need an S5ii and an S5iiX... released at the same time? But I guess they know what they're doing... nickel and diming their sub-$2500 enthusiast customers generates a bunch of profits with the upsells.

You can get a brand new S5 for $995. This seems like Panasonic using old stock. It's a shame what happened to m4/3. I was so floored to get the G7 back in 2015 for $500 and then the GX85 a little less than a year later for a little bit more and eventually a G85. Other than a few Blackmagic cameras, I've also had a GH6 and used a friend's GH5 a bunch of times. I wish I had kept the GH6. The current deal on the GH7 at B&H is pretty amazing... $140 coupon and a free XLR handle (32bit float internal) but it's still overpriced for m4/3 when you consider you can get the S5iiX for less and also with a free XLR handle. The pricing of Panasonic cameras are all over the place. I guess m4/3 sensor may cost more now? Or the cost of the sensor is one of the lowest costs of production and Panasonic is basing their pricing on features alone, adding X amount of dollars for every feature they add to the checklist. To be fair to Panasonic, I think most manufacturers are all over the place.

I recieved the camera approx. 3 weeks ago, i did not have much time to test it and decided to send it back. - The body is made of plastic but the size and the weight are fantastic. Funny how different it feels to take pictures and videos of the family with such a small camera (compared to the a74). - On the video side it feels great, feelings of the original blackmagic pocket come up. It's really fun to use for such a small camera body. Of course it is winter and i was only able to take pictures inside: for that use case the camera is worse to the a74 by far. Not sure wether it is fair to compare those two though... So overall i believe that this is a really fun camera - i will just not be able to invest the time to learn a new system right now, also @Andrew Reids praise of the S9 did not help as well. But it's defenetly a great camera for every day carry, holidays and traveling. Not sure wether it's the right thing for my use case of music videos, short films and family pictures though...

For exactly the same reason Nikon will release the updated P1000 superzoom with no change but USB port. At this point they can't add more than a penny to the BoM of this kind of cameras.

I was just thinking, about how many cameras have been released in 2024. Most companies have released just one or two, as the rate of releases in this industry have massively released. Only two companies have released three cameras this year in 2024: https://sansmirror.com/newsviews-2/a-slow-year-in-mirrorless.html Fujifilm — X-T50, GFX 100S II, X-M5 Panasonic — GH7, S9, G97 So Panasonic ranks at the top in terms of bringing out new models, I guess we should be thankful they're at least doing something.

Maybe this was the real reason why the Panasonic G97 got released: https://dslrbodies.com/newsviews-2/remember-this-date-december.html "all [devices] sold in the EU will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C charging port." If Panasonic didn't add USB-C they could no longer sell their cameras. They could keep on selling the G9 mk2 / GH6 / GH7, as they're new enough to already include USB-C. But the G95? It lacks USB-C. Thus Panasonic was faced with an issue: either they ditch completely the entry level models, and lack having a feeeder model to bring in new blood, or they do a minor update to include USB-C (and some other little stuff).

I'm going to wait for the G97.5

The benefits of N-Raw won't be visible on Youtube. It's overkill for most projects but for HDR it's a must have. I also noticed that the quality is worse than H265 in 4K modes on Z6III due to line skipping.

You are correct, they blew it with the marketing... And sort of with the product design, because had it looked a bit more serious with an EVF as well, it would have done very well. Only Panasonic can take something as powerful as an S1H, with an image that good, give it to us for $1500 and make a big fuck up of it. That you can soon get it for under $1k used is indeed a steal. The advertising is trying to capture a market that is perfectly happy with a high-end smartphone or a Sony ZV

The lack of IBIS seems like a bad idea, though -- how effective will that electronic stabilization be? Probably most users will be shooting this handheld unless they really are thinking of it for vlogging where it'll be sitting on a tripod.

I'm definitely in the minority on this site, but I think the rush to mirrorless by the entire industry was a mistake and I wouldn't be surprised if Canon and maybe Nikon bring back a DSLR line.