Sony FX2

[ND64]

5 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

Surely the best way of doing that would be to do a review and actually state that he doesn’t rate it IN THE FUCKING REVIEW.

He doesn't want to ruin his relationship with the brands to the point they don't send him the new cameras twice as good as previous gen. 

[MrSMW]

8 minutes ago, ND64 said:

He doesn't want to ruin his relationship with the brands to the point they don't send him the new cameras twice as good as previous gen. 

I think if I was in the camera reviewing game, I wouldn't either, but therein lies the problem with that scenario, - just how do you retain any kind of personal or perceived integrity if you only ever praise every single piece of kit launched without becoming an utter shill?

Fortunately I don't have to and will never have to because I don't have and never will have an 'influencer' channel!

But back on the FX2, I have watched a couple of reviews now and regardless of their personal opinion, I have made my own mind up and it's "not quite".

I have become used to using 6k 30p open gate as my standard for over a year now. 

I like both the quality of the output and the relatively low size of the log file with Lumix.

The OG gives me a decent option for post production 9:16 crop without having to make an entirely new social media short from scratch.

The S5ii was good for this last year and the S9 is better (despite various shortcomings) for this year.

Is a move to Sony or Nikon still on the cards for next year?

Ideally yes, but purely because it's the only valid option for me and my specific needs and requirements and yes, I have looked at every conceivable option and continue to do so without it becoming an obsession.

FX2 though?

No.

It's failure for me is the LCD & EVF. I haven't used an EVF for years, stills or video, - it's just too slow and clunky a way of working for me.

Add on monitors etc also do not work for me so rear LCD is a critical part of my process.

So I would personally not use or want the EVF of the FX2 and at the same time, that LCD res is just really quite poor, even compared with my S9.

In fact other than build/body (but not glass options), the S9 is just a preferable option for me right now.

ZV-E1 is on my radar but again, suffers from the same LCD woes.

It bypassed me completely but the best Sony option for me right now would probably be the FX30 which has an excellent LCD which utterly shames that of this new FX2.

The FX2 could have been a contender for me if they had simply skipped the EVF protrusion and had a decent LCD instead.

And that right there, was and is the dealbreaker for me.

Next move is over to Nikon. Please don't fuck this up. Make an FX3/30 style body with quality rear LCD, internal Z6iii spec with ability to bake in RED luts and we're probably golden. I can then use all my e Mount glass adapted with full AF and happy days will ensue. And I can then end my career back where it started, - with Neekon.

[eatstoomuchjam]

As expected, Camera Conspiracies isn't  a fan, comes complete with the expected boardroom sketch with a blonde wig.

 

 

[Andrew Reid]

Comparison is the thief of joy when it comes to creative tools.

Most cameras these days are a victim of comparison.

If we all stop comparing the choices, life becomes much more simple.

Buy what you can afford and be happy 🙂

 

[BTM_Pix]

I wish one of these gobshites would have the courage of their convictions and instead of the shocked faced gurning thumbnail pronouncing "This Changes EVERYTHING !" they just had one with them shrugging and saying "This Changes NOTHING !".

Camera companies are getting away with this tiny incremental facelift versions because they know these clowns have to keep stoking the click generator so won't ever offer up more meaningful commentary.

In that respect, the urban cowboy could have actually displayed some credibility if he'd made that type of commentary video about it instead of just swerving it completely.

I don't want this faux "GAME CHANGER!" nonsense as the reality is that there are seldom any releases that genuinely shock anymore.

We want genuine, shit your pants, wow releases.

Less "GAME CHANGER!" and more "UNDERWEAR CHANGER!".

 

[eatstoomuchjam]

Is there even an underwear changer?  What would that look like.  There are already cameras on the market that shoot in resolutions that surpass human perception at a reasonable viewing distance/screen size combination (anything 8K+).  There are already cameras that shoot those resolutions at silly frame rates (UC12K does 8K at like 160fps).  Dynamic range on current mirrorless cameras is already within spitting image of Arri and arguably better than most film stocks that were ever produced (give or take pleasant highlight rolloff).  Sensitivity?  For years, the A7 III has been able to shoot with a pretty fast lens by moonlight.  How much darker do we need?

So really, with that in mind, it's a bit hard for me to think of the specs on a camera that would  make me go out and buy some underwear, put them on, and then crap them...  especially since at least some of them come with compromises - like the UC12K has photosites so small that, while I haven't done the math, I suspect would suffer from diffraction before f/8.  So does the camera need to have even more resolution that I don't need?  Or even higher framerates that I will use on about 1 out of every 5 shoots?

Computational photography more similar to what a phone could do?  That could be interesting, but I'm still not sure that's "holy crap" level.

 

[BTM_Pix]

If this camera had come with internal electronic ND and global shutter then this entire forum would be up and on their way to the underwear drawer walking like that Honda robot.

 

[Andrew Reid]

1 hour ago, BTM_Pix said:

I wish one of these gobshites would have the courage of their convictions and instead of the shocked faced gurning thumbnail pronouncing "This Changes EVERYTHING !" they just had one with them shrugging and saying "This Changes NOTHING !".

Camera companies are getting away with this tiny incremental facelift versions because they know these clowns have to keep stoking the click generator so won't ever offer up more meaningful commentary.

In that respect, the urban cowboy could have actually displayed some credibility if he'd made that type of commentary video about it instead of just swerving it completely.

I don't want this faux "GAME CHANGER!" nonsense as the reality is that there are seldom any releases that genuinely shock anymore.

We want genuine, shit your pants, wow releases.

Less "GAME CHANGER!" and more "UNDERWEAR CHANGER!".

Fro Knows Photo - NEW SONY FX1 MADE ME SHIT MYSELF

Gerald Undone - SONY FX1 is a bedwetting moment

Philip Bloom - FX1 CURED MY LOVE OF CATS

Jordan Drake - I JIZZED MY PANTS BECAUSE OF SONY

Camera Conspiracies - SONY FX1 ABSOLUTELY CRAP VLOGGING CAMERA

Camera Labs - SONY FX1 has been released and it shoots video

Tony and Chelsea Northrup -

[eatstoomuchjam]

24 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

If this camera had come with internal electronic ND and global shutter then this entire forum would be up and on their way to the underwear drawer walking like that Honda robot.

I'm gonna swap the M43 mount on my Z Cam E2-S6G for the Z Cam EF mount and put in the electronic ND filter.  I'll also hook up the Video Assist 12G so that the recording choices can be h.265, ProRes, and braw.  Get those pants ready!  😉

Or if the ND doesn't have to be electronic, I'd like to introduce you to the Komodo and the Canon EF-RF ND filter adapter.  😅

I'd post a picture of both things side-by-side, but I don't wanna be on the hook for everybody's dry cleaning bills.

19 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

ro Knows Photo - NEW SONY FX1 MADE ME SHIT MYSELF

Gerald Undone - SONY FX1 is a bedwetting moment

Philip Bloom - FX1 CURED MY LOVE OF CATS

Jordan Drake - I JIZZED MY PANTS BECAUSE OF SONY

Camera Conspiracies - SONY FX1 ABSOLUTELY CRAP VLOGGING CAMERA

Camera Labs - SONY FX1 has been released and it shoots video

Tony and Chelsea Northrup -

Pooter McCubbins - NEW FX1 MADE ME CRAP IN THE LEATHER UNDERWEAR I MADE MYSELF (AVAILABLE AT MY STORE)

Maati Haapoja - FX1 MADE ME POOP IN THE PANTS POOTER HANDED DOWN TO ME

iPhoneyDo - FX1 MADE ME CHANGE MY NAME TO IPANTSDOODOO

Mac Mackey - FX1 INSPIRED A NEW SET OF UNDERWEAR POOP LUTS AVAILABLE NOW IN MY STORE

MarcusPix - HERE IS THE MOST PORTABLE LIGHT STAND THAT I USED TO FILM MY FX1 PANTS POOPS

ArtOfPhotography - I USED TO TALK ABOUT PHOTO HISTORY BUT NOW I JUST WANT SOME CLEAN SHORTS THANKS FX1

Slanted Lens - WHICH FX SERIES CAMERAS MAKE YOU CRAP YOUR PANTS THE MOST?  HERE IS A COMPARISON THAT IS BOTH DULL AND NOT TOO ACCURATE

Snapchick - HERE'S A TUTORIAL FOR SELF-BOUDOIR PHOTOGRAPHY AFTER THE FX1 MAKES YOU POOP IN YOUR LINGERIE

[Andrew Reid]

The new Black Mirror episode is a real banger...

...in which Philip Bloom goes all the way to the White House and starts making up the laws of the land, a new Constitution.

Law number 1... ALL media is given a platform based on promotional effectiveness and loyalty to the CAT KINGDOM. Those media not interested in cats, are de-platformed and uninvited from Sony camera launches.

Law number 2... Universities watch out... Cat Zionism is about. Or should that be Meowism. Any pro-pussians and anyone who doesn't worship white fur is deported to a columbian jail.

Law number 3... Lawyers and judges are to be superseded by weekly episodes of the Supreme Apprentice, where 6 cats around a table ultimately get to settle all arguments big or small with the flick of a tail.

Law number 4... Japanese cameras are banned, all cameras must have pet detection and be made in Texas.

Law Number 5... All China cats and European cats get out. The CAT KINGDOM is only for AMERICAN AND BRITISH PUSSY.