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yes well the S1 and S1H have 1 stop more of ibis over the S5, but I am still leaning towards the S5 because of the weight(flipscreen). For walking shots you still need a gymbal/glidecam anyways so I figure I rather lift 300GR less each time I fly it. And prolly because it is smaller and lighter it gets mounted much faster, and doesnt need that much precision on a ronin s for example(could be wrong but I def noticed the difference rigging a RED vs my old GH4). 

This post says it all.
how you really don’t know anyone as well as you think you do.

Newsshooter just released their review as well. It looks good. Wondering how that price will translate in euros.
I rather have an r5 or a7s iii, but for half the price of those you cant go wrong with the s5.

With S1 Sigma mc 21 and Tamron 24-70 G2 VC Control works nice together with the Ibis

I have the Sigma with my S1H and it works really great. I think it's the best option right now.

No it's available in France, and in other countires as I saw it so i'm pretty sure it works in Belgium !

So just hope for a GFX with a FF crop video mode as an option 🙂

Mostly follow the local fb group i am in, there are some good advice there as people tend to share their findings and research (and some bad ones too though, so choose wisely).  I do it as long term investment instead of playing for short term, so minor dips dont worry me much. Since bank interest is so low so and gonna be that way for a few years there is no point put money in the bank unless u buying a house or something.
I didn't watch youtube as they are like any other youtuber...

To second what @ntblowz said, most people I know that are successful in investing are in it for the long term.  There's a saying that if you're going to own stock for a decade or more, any time is the right time to buy.
There is a pretty widely held belief that there is a strong 10-year cycle that the market follows, and so the idea is to plot a 10-year moving average for the whole market (eg, look at the indexes) and whenever the current market position is below that trend-line then that's the right time to buy.

@Andrew Reid do you still have your s1/s1h would you be able to compare ibis on the s5 and the s1/s1h? As Gerald says its not as good, and newsshooter says its the same.

I think so. They had to have a gyro instead of IBIS data for the FX9 because they couldn't have the IBIS mechanism and the electronic ND both fit in the mount. I'm actually really impressed with the Gyro data stabilization, and look forward to that being usable in other applications.  

Their "advanced" mode on the A7sIII seems great and I'm glad they have the gyro data.

From Gerald Undone's tests it seems that the IBIS is not as good as the Panasonic S1, so that is another strike against it for me. 

I wish Fuji would enter the full frame market. 

Never used an S1 camera before, but i guess I will never hook it up to a external monitor (because of weight and power). Have other camera's that will do that just fine. This camera for me is all about compact travel videography and photography, and for shoots where I need B-roll where the low weight, small form factor and ibis will benefit me greatly. 

It breaks easily and requires you to have a cage for the camera to use it reliably without it falling out or getting pulled out easily. Full and even miniHDMI you can get away with just plugging it in sometimes but I never trust micro and don't want to lug a cage whenever I want to use and external monitor. 

Honestly hope the S5 releases for $1500 and kills used prices on the S1, that way I can pick one up with the XLR input. It really is a rock solid camera with no negatives for me except the lack of great video AF.... and I really don't use video AF right now, it would just be nice to have. 

S5 is rumoured to have uncropped 60p at 10 bit.  Big tick.  Flip screen.  Another big tick.  Smaller too, which is another big tick.  Its not my main camera, and I don't want it big.  I have my cinema cameras for that.  Hopefully improved AF as well.  
It will carry another year of technical development in it.  So may have some small improvements here and there.  
So definitely above the S1 in many key areas. 

Some gorgeous shots by Note.
This camera is the most interesting of all the new releases imho, am bored of the overheating mess that is Canon, and the disappointingly video like images of the A7s3. 

The 10k pricetag is not for the masses though. But I agree, best image of maybe sub 20k cameras.

It's a bad idea because a gaming headset isn't designed to be neutral, it is very coloured with the bass, mids and highs dialled in a certain way. So it is a bit like doing colour grading on an inaccurate monitor. You will compensate for those inaccuracies and the image will be completely off on everybody else's screens.
So don't do it and get Beyerdynamic closed back monitoring headphones DT770 Pro.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/beyerdynamic-770-PRO-Studio-Headphones/dp/B0016MNAAI/ref=sxin_7_ac_d_rm?ac_md=2-2-ZHQgNzcwIHBybw%3D%3D-ac_d_rm&cv_ct_cx=dt+990&dchild=1&keywords=dt+990&pd_rd_i=B0016MNAAI&pd_rd_r=147e029d-898b-463f-bf5d-19b242fe94ba&pd_rd_w=PDtZg&pd_rd_wg=AEx06&pf_rd_p=0c799c14-fd2d-4652-a647-3581649b0ff7&pf_rd_r=CVZMDQH8EJEEXMH844XT&psc=1&qid=1598619207&sr=1-3-fe323411-17bb-433b-b2f8-c44f2e1370d4
If you mix in a quiet place use the open back version DT 990 for even better reference sound quality.

Wow amazing, another 5 whopping minutes. Im ordering one right now...
So I guess Canon will do nothing about the problem. So its up to some smart users to fix it or give a workable workaround....
Sad day for camera tech.

Wow amazing, another 5 whopping minutes. Im ordering one right now...
So I guess Canon will do nothing about the problem. So its up to some smart users to fix it or give a workable workaround....
Sad day for camera tech.

Apparently a firmware update is coming tomorrow.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64300120
 

It has yet to be proven that 8K RAW goes indefinitely, but yes it is very impressive hardware.
There may be thermal throttling or lock-ups somewhere during long sessions, we don't know - but what is now proven without a shadow of a doubt is how artificial the 15 minute limit is and how it counts down on a timer rather than a high maximum temperature cut off point.
My opinion gets stronger every day that all this is about segmenting it from the Cinema EOS cameras.
But we all know this is a stupid business decision, because most Cinema EOS camera owners wanted to buy an EOS R5 as a b-cam, second body, third body, handheld rig, you name it.
In my opinion Canon seems to want to sell every professional shooter a minimum of 2 very expensive cameras for the same shoot - one single hybrid camera at $4000 plus very expensive high margin optics is not enough it seems. Shoot stills? Buy EOS R5. Shoot video? Buy C500 Mark II. Shoot both. Buy both.
Yup it is terrible for us who just want to buy the EOS R5 for it's amazing hardware and cinematic images.
We're always the one to get screwed it seems.
This is why Canon, in my opinion, has been losing video users for years.
It is faulty thinking, throughout the company. I don't know which part of Canon is most to blame - USA or Japan? Both? EOS or Cinema? Maybe both? Or do the EOS guys secretly really dislike the politics that the Cinema business has brought to the company and the restrictions it has placed on their products and all the stupid segmentation?
Either way, they must change.
I am up to 1 hour of 8K H.265 which is very special from a 45MP full frame sensor.
It makes it even more frustrating that Canon has turned it into a lemon then!
If Canon chose to lie to their customers about limitations on a $700 consumer camera that was boring and unexciting, the passion wouldn't quite be as strong to uncover the truth and fix it... That it is a very expensive flagship camera and the first of its kind in the world, makes it a hugely emotional topic for me & you, and rightly so.

Som years ago it came out that a famous car company has manipulated the control system of their cars, so when measuring how pollutive the exhaust is, the software adjusted the engine management, so very low values were registered. The company did advertise the cars with these impossible to archive values, so actually were misleading, cheating the customers. Investigations showed that also other car manufacturers made use of this ingenious trick… 
Since these firms have paid billions as penalty, have “reengineered” the control software, have recalled millions of cars, the responsible ones have faced serious sanctions and most of the CEO-s are not seeeous anymore. Most people find all this rightful. 
I really hope that in some of the most important countries, markets for Canon, where customers are not willing to be defrauded and the legal system is grown up to such situations, Canon is going to be punished for this absurd dishonesty. It will also be an important message for the whole high-tech/IT industry, where shiny marketing brochures often promise values, never archivable in real world.

On Friday, I received a message from the lead developer at Magic Lantern. An interesting theory was being put forward by one of their open source contributors, which he believed could defeat the so-called overheat timer on the Canon EOS R5.
Initially I was skeptical as to whether it would work! Mainly because the initial real-world tests on my own EOS R5 did not reset the timer.
But then, a break-through.
Magic Lantern just became Magic Screw!
Read the full blog post here:
https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos-r5-so-called-overheat-timer-defeated-by-a-single-screw-in-battery-door/