Geoff CB

3 hours ago, Anaconda_ said:

Adds Blackmagic RAW stills capture support.

 

Ohhh I'm interested to see that. 

7 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

Now you tell me this is filmed in 422 and I can buy a cheapo BMVA rather than a bulky Pix or Gemini.:) Beautiful tones and shot! Which one of the SLOG uses did you apply, the one which Ben (Ericson) described in this thread or the one from Renaissance Man? Did you lit with Tungsten?

Prores 444 Slog out of SDI A port at 3200 iso with a PIX-E7. Nikon 24-70 at 70mm with a Tiffen Supermist Black 1/8 filter. 

Lights in background heart were tungsten. But fill and spotlight on stage was gelled LED. 

3 hours ago, Anaconda_ said:

Nobody even has this camera yet, and BMD have released a pretty amazing update for it.

Also updated RS readout times:

 

Wow. That is one hell of a spec list.

35 minutes ago, basil_555 said:

You’re using the 24-70 lens, which is rather heavy, without any additional support. Doesn’t it put too much stress on the camera?

Not at all, the mount on the camera is very strong. Metal mount + steel Nikon G adapter from Optitek. If I was mounting a cinema lens on it yes I'd use a rail support, but photography lenses are relatively light in the grand scheme, if cheap DSLR can handle it this mount certainly can.

On 9/10/2020 at 10:47 AM, PannySVHS said:

Sizewise I think Ben Ericsons setup with the 5inch  BM video assist had the perfect size. He powered it through a SWIFT battery via DTap from the F3. Your recorder provides beautiful 444 but looks to be a bit on the bulky side.:) Is it your recommended PiX E5? @Geoff CB Anyway, we need to see some footage from you and your thoughts on F3 vs S1! Your beautiful screenshots are too beautiful to not to want some moving images!

It's a larger PIX-E7 with the XLR adapter attached. Honestly the camera itself is bulky so not going to switch to a smaller recorder to get it a little lighter.

Working on the videos, but have other work I have to get done first. Including shooting a short on the F3 alongside the S1 on Saturday. So we'll see how they do! 

Don't think this will sell well, terrible video specs for the price, bad viewfinder, and not in any way better than the A7III for photographers. 

2 hours ago, deezid said:

Imatest doesn't care about artifacts, which is a huge issue.
The available latitude on the FX9 is still better than on the A7sIII where anything below middle gray starts smearing or even shows ghosting.

I'd rather have no NR or non-destructive NR on the S1/S1H/S5 (12.3 stops, 12 bit ADC video mode) vs destructive NR on the A7sIII (13 stops, 12 bit ADC video mode) or even worse A73 (10.7 stops, 10 bit ADC video mode).

I'm sure the FX9 would receive better results with NR on, but their noise reduction algorithms aren't as sophisticated as the Panasonic S-series's has become, so you would run into similar issues shown on the A7sIII.

And honestly, the grain on the FX9 cleans up super nicely if necessary. 🙂

yeah DR is important but I've seen so many cameras with great DR that fall apart and the shadows or the highlights in terms of image quality. Like my A7rII that turned green in the highlights right before clipping (thank God they fixed this on later models).

Lack of front dial is a mistake. Especially at the rumored price.

So if you are trying to get 60p out of this camera make sure you have a 6G SDI cable! I thought an older SDI would work and was constantly having issues getting 60 FPS, switches to a 12g cable and much much better! 

1 hour ago, Antoin e said:

Some of you know if the sdi port of the BMVA can be replaced ??

Probably not cheaply. Sorry about that. 

For me it's not necessary but it comes down to the lenses I'm investing in. At this time I'm not willing to buy any glass that doesn't cover full frame. So by extension I lean towards full frame camera purchases in the future because that takes the most advantage of the lenses I have and will continue to buy.

18 minutes ago, kye said:

Which bit isn't correct?  I've never been able to get a clear idea about which restrictions there are on the free version.

If the free version has multiple nodes, then that's pretty awesome, and makes it a lot more useful.

 

https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/SupportNotes/DaVinci_Resolve_15_Feature_Comparison.pdf

Main things you loose is resolutions over UHD, HDR, noise reduction, multi-GPU support, and project sharing. 

22 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

@Geoff CB Don´t you have a Tokina 28-70 2.6? Mind filming a bit with that beauty? I own that lens but still not BMVA, so I don´t bother filming with my F3 right now. My S1 gets more exposure for sure. I think F3 owners should do a F3 challenge. What kind of challenge could that be. Footage looks awesome no matter what. No challenge there.;)

@Antoin e Hey, would love to see your video! Stills look lovely.

The Tokina is not worth it on the camera, better off getting a nice filter like hollywood blackmagic or something similar  and a wider lens. 28-70 is very limiting on the F3.  It actually is fantastic on the S1 though. Again I'm leaning towards filters for the soft look nowadays.

Absolutely fantastic to see the 1080p 10-bit 4:2:2 is at a very high bitrate!

7 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

Because 90% of my lenses are FF. 

So just hope for a GFX with a FF crop video mode as an option 🙂

15 minutes ago, Márcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

My doubt with Sony is: everyone have figured out good IBIS (not Olympus class, but good) except Sony.

Could it be really as some say - the mount is limiting it?

I think so. They had to have a gyro instead of IBIS data for the FX9 because they couldn't have the IBIS mechanism and the electronic ND both fit in the mount. I'm actually really impressed with the Gyro data stabilization, and look forward to that being usable in other applications.  

Their "advanced" mode on the A7sIII seems great and I'm glad they have the gyro data.

From Gerald Undone's tests it seems that the IBIS is not as good as the Panasonic S1, so that is another strike against it for me. 

31 minutes ago, TheBoogieKnight said:

It's more the fact his tests are the usual smoothly run/walk towards/away from camera and not real tests. Gerald Undone did one and it looks as bad as ever unfortunately:

 

 

The lumanence spot meter at 10:42 should be in every camera, that looks great. 

Yeah the only reason I never went fuji is I don't enjoy their body designs, shallow grips and dials on top that I would never use. Never handled a XH-1 however so maybe that would convince me otherwise. 

This will probably be my next video camera as long as it has 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 30p with no crop. 

10 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

 

Conclusion for me is that a 2021 pairing of Sony A7S3 for video and A74 for stills is probably my best bet, especially as I am looking for a minimum 3 year investment. If not longer.

 

I'm in the same boat, I'm going to rent it first but I'm really leaning towards long term going full Sony. I love my Nikon's but it has so many minor annoyances and they are never going to have a video camera to move up to or use alongside them. Sony has the lenses and the AF performance for photo and video. If the R5/R6 had knocked it out of the park I would have considered it but not anymore. 

"What you need to be very mindful of when using Panasonic Lumix S series cameras, and this includes the S5, is that the HDMI delay is horrible. I did a series of tests to work out the average delay when outputting over HDMI. The average latency taken from 3 tests was a whopping 221ms."   -Newsshooter.

OW. Deal breaker for me. 

20 minutes ago, Márcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

Press release already leaked. looking good.

https://www.l-rumors.com/press-text-panasonic-s5/
 

At $2000 I would much rather buy a used S1 with it's better battery, EVF, and handling. The only thing it lacks is the 10-bit 60p. 

Edit: And unlimited record time and a full size HDMI instead of micro.  

3 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

I wish Fuji would enter the full frame market. 

They already leapfrogged it with the GFX line. Would rather they bring out a cheap GFX model.

1 hour ago, Trankilstef said:

My hope also but I'm pretty sure they'll be more in the 800$ price range unfortunately. 

Nikon's 1.8 lenses are no compromise glass. Really hope Panasonic is wise and makes these cheap and with a FEW compromises. The system really needs low cost lens options.

9 minutes ago, zerocool22 said:

 

Because it breaks more easily or are there other downsides?

It breaks easily and requires you to have a cage for the camera to use it reliably without it falling out or getting pulled out easily. Full and even miniHDMI you can get away with just plugging it in sometimes but I never trust micro and don't want to lug a cage whenever I want to use and external monitor. 

Honestly hope the S5 releases for $1500 and kills used prices on the S1, that way I can pick one up with the XLR input. It really is a rock solid camera with no negatives for me except the lack of great video AF.... and I really don't use video AF right now, it would just be nice to have. 

41 minutes ago, MicahMahaffey said:

 

And the s5 has micro hdmi. 

Aaaannnnd this camera is dead to me.

If I could deal with microHDMI I would be using a XT-4 right now.