Cliff Totten

Clipping occurs when sensor photosites are saturated and can't collect any more photons. There is no "raw" on planet Earth that can "recover highlights" from a saturated photosite. The term "highlight recovery" that everybody throws around is not a real thing. You either clipped and saturated photosites on your sensor or you didnt. You either crossed that threshold or didnt. Neither Log video OR raw sensor data can save you from clipped sampling. Pure white....is always pure white. So is pure black. This goes for both log video and raw.

Clipping occurs when sensor photosites are saturated and can't collect any more photons. There is no "raw" on planet Earth that can "recover highlights" from a saturated photosite. The term "highlight recovery" that everybody throws around is not a real thing. You either clipped and saturated photosites on your sensor or you didnt. You either crossed that threshold or didnt. Neither Log video OR raw sensor data can save you from clipped sampling. Pure white....is always pure white. So is pure black. This goes for both log video and raw.

Yes,...if the S1H did have phase detect AF, it WOULD be flawless. Too dangerous and that us why it won't ever have PDAF.
The camera industry has a "pizza pie" of customers. They work together to divide the customer revenue so that each company has a "group" to live off of. Panasonic has its crowd, Sony has its people, Cannot and Fuji and Oly each have their own customers...for carefully calculated reasons.
The Japaneese camera industry is an important one for the country of Japan. Its almost a "national pride" issue. They cherish it and the Japanese companies want each company to succeed or at least survive as a matter of pride and respect for each other. Each company will spar with each other, yes!...but always see that each refuses to deliver a true "knockout" blow to the other. Ot just won't ever happen.
This is why every camera will be crippled in some way to save the Japaneese "brotherhood" from being destroyed.
Everybody is given a bowling lane to operate and survive in. The camera crippling we have all seen in the past 20+ years is no accident. Its mostly designed to preserve the health of the Japaneese camera industry as a whole.
Believe it or not....but Sony doesn't want Cannot to die. Cannot doesnt want Lumix to die...etc. They are each valuable to the country they all love.

Andrew....do you know the "Magic Lantern" guys? Do you know how to contact or reach out to them?
I would literally bet my life that they are very interested in this R5 mess. 
If you want to upset Cannot and REALLY ring their bell, get some dialog going with ML and REALLY start a fire here....
If Cannot has not yet encrypted their firmware, could you imagine ML reversing all these cripples in firmware? Maybe It could be just as easy as taking timer values in lines of code and replacing them with high values like "99999" or something of that sort.
Cannot doesnt fear bad R5 press....but they DO absolutely fear somebody circumventing their carefully chosen marketing strategies and tactics!

Yes,...if the S1H did have phase detect AF, it WOULD be flawless. Too dangerous and that us why it won't ever have PDAF.
The camera industry has a "pizza pie" of customers. They work together to divide the customer revenue so that each company has a "group" to live off of. Panasonic has its crowd, Sony has its people, Cannot and Fuji and Oly each have their own customers...for carefully calculated reasons.
The Japaneese camera industry is an important one for the country of Japan. Its almost a "national pride" issue. They cherish it and the Japanese companies want each company to succeed or at least survive as a matter of pride and respect for each other. Each company will spar with each other, yes!...but always see that each refuses to deliver a true "knockout" blow to the other. Ot just won't ever happen.
This is why every camera will be crippled in some way to save the Japaneese "brotherhood" from being destroyed.
Everybody is given a bowling lane to operate and survive in. The camera crippling we have all seen in the past 20+ years is no accident. Its mostly designed to preserve the health of the Japaneese camera industry as a whole.
Believe it or not....but Sony doesn't want Cannot to die. Cannot doesnt want Lumix to die...etc. They are each valuable to the country they all love.

Yes,...if the S1H did have phase detect AF, it WOULD be flawless. Too dangerous and that us why it won't ever have PDAF.
The camera industry has a "pizza pie" of customers. They work together to divide the customer revenue so that each company has a "group" to live off of. Panasonic has its crowd, Sony has its people, Cannot and Fuji and Oly each have their own customers...for carefully calculated reasons.
The Japaneese camera industry is an important one for the country of Japan. Its almost a "national pride" issue. They cherish it and the Japanese companies want each company to succeed or at least survive as a matter of pride and respect for each other. Each company will spar with each other, yes!...but always see that each refuses to deliver a true "knockout" blow to the other. Ot just won't ever happen.
This is why every camera will be crippled in some way to save the Japaneese "brotherhood" from being destroyed.
Everybody is given a bowling lane to operate and survive in. The camera crippling we have all seen in the past 20+ years is no accident. Its mostly designed to preserve the health of the Japaneese camera industry as a whole.
Believe it or not....but Sony doesn't want Cannot to die. Cannot doesnt want Lumix to die...etc. They are each valuable to the country they all love.

The GH5 and GH5-S are Sony IMX272 and IMX299 sensors. I don't know if these Sony sensors have PDAF photosites or not. "If" they do have PDAF photosites like their MFT cousins on the Olympus side, then Panasonic does not have the liscense from Sony to use them. I don't know.
Anyway...on the full frame war. Who else besides Sony makes full frame PDAF sensors with EXMOR patents and on-board A/D converters? Where else is Panasonic going to go if they can't negotiate with Sony? Cmosis?  Aptina? Sure they could buy other sensors without Sony architecture patents......and sit back and watch their camera get smashed on test sites like this or YouTube when compared to a Sony camera. They HAVE to buy from Sony to compete with Sony.
My source (this means "rumor") tells me that politics between Sony and Panasonic are very "complicated". 
I dont know. I am not in those Panasonic/ Sony sensor licensing/purchasing  meetings and very few people in Japan actually are.
Bottom line?....guys don't blame Panasonic so hard for not having PDAF sensor liscensing. Its not their fault in the way many people are guessing.
Panasonic engineers (at their level) are doing the very best they can with the sensors they have.
Again...they FULLY understand the contrast hunting AF hole that they are in. 

Ok...lets clear up some common misunderstandings....
Panasonic does NOT hate phase detect AF
Panasonic has PDAF cameras in their labs and PERFECTLY understands how much better they perform over contrast hunting AF
Panasonic is absolutely, completely, 100%...PAINFULLY...aware that they are at the bottom of the industry AF performance list....and will stay there with contrast hunting AF.
Panasonic is again....PAINFULLY...aware that being the only major company without PDAF is killing their sales numbers. They FULLY understand this at every level.
Panasonic is not "stupid" or "arrogant" or "stubborn" or "blind" as many of declared.
Panasonic wishes they were not in the situation that they are in today with AF. They don't WANT to be in this situation!!
However,...Panasonic engineers are given non-PDAF sensors and YES!!...this SUCKS!  Their task is to make the best contrast AF they can with the sensors they have. These guys are trying as hard as they can! They are given lemons and asked to make lemonade.
Politics between Sony and Panasonic are very complicated. Today, Panasonic is stuck where they are. Hopefully things will change in the future but for now, this is the reality they MUST live with.
Everybody just blindly blames Panasonic for being "stubburn" with holding on to  contrast AF.....I really wish it was that simple of a problem that so many think it is.
Guys....Its just not that simple as we make it out to be.

If I were Cannot, I'd pray to God that I have security measures in place in the R5 to block it from being firmware hacked by the Magic Lantern guys.
If somebody can hack and unlock the R5 software?...customers would be left with one HELL of a nuclear bomb 8k monster beast camera that would TERRIFY Cannot's marketing execs and cine EOS managers.
Yeah....you better pray the R5 does not get hacked.      

I'm just tired of everybody saying
"Panasonic is stupid"
"Panasonic is arrogant"
"Panasonic doesnt understand how PDAF works and why is great"
"Panasonic thinks DfD is better than PDAF"
Ugg....Panasonuc being stuck without PDAF has NOTHING to do with that crap.
People also make this RIDUCULAS statement"
"Sony imaging and Sony Semiconductor are two SEPERATE companies.....and Semiconductor has ZERO concerns with the heath or competition if imaging'
I mean, this one guy told me "Semiconductor just wants to sell sensors, they don't care at all if Imaging dies or not"
Who believes that??? 

Ok...lets clear up some common misunderstandings....
Panasonic does NOT hate phase detect AF
Panasonic has PDAF cameras in their labs and PERFECTLY understands how much better they perform over contrast hunting AF
Panasonic is absolutely, completely, 100%...PAINFULLY...aware that they are at the bottom of the industry AF performance list....and will stay there with contrast hunting AF.
Panasonic is again....PAINFULLY...aware that being the only major company without PDAF is killing their sales numbers. They FULLY understand this at every level.
Panasonic is not "stupid" or "arrogant" or "stubborn" or "blind" as many of declared.
Panasonic wishes they were not in the situation that they are in today with AF. They don't WANT to be in this situation!!
However,...Panasonic engineers are given non-PDAF sensors and YES!!...this SUCKS!  Their task is to make the best contrast AF they can with the sensors they have. These guys are trying as hard as they can! They are given lemons and asked to make lemonade.
Politics between Sony and Panasonic are very complicated. Today, Panasonic is stuck where they are. Hopefully things will change in the future but for now, this is the reality they MUST live with.
Everybody just blindly blames Panasonic for being "stubburn" with holding on to  contrast AF.....I really wish it was that simple of a problem that so many think it is.
Guys....Its just not that simple as we make it out to be.

I refuse to believe Connot would be THIS underhanded. I'm sure it really IS a true heat problem and NOT a software programmed timer. What programmer would do this in the office, go home at the end of the day and still be able to sleep at night? 
I think the problem is probably with your fridge. There is prolly something wrong with it. Can you test with a freezer instead?

I refuse to believe Connot would be THIS underhanded. I'm sure it really IS a true heat problem and NOT a software programmed timer. What programmer would do this in the office, go home at the end of the day and still be able to sleep at night? 
I think the problem is probably with your fridge. There is prolly something wrong with it. Can you test with a freezer instead?

I refuse to believe Connot would be THIS underhanded. I'm sure it really IS a true heat problem and NOT a software programmed timer. What programmer would do this in the office, go home at the end of the day and still be able to sleep at night? 
I think the problem is probably with your fridge. There is prolly something wrong with it. Can you test with a freezer instead?

I refuse to believe Connot would be THIS underhanded. I'm sure it really IS a true heat problem and NOT a software programmed timer. What programmer would do this in the office, go home at the end of the day and still be able to sleep at night? 
I think the problem is probably with your fridge. There is prolly something wrong with it. Can you test with a freezer instead?

Message to Sony and Cannot:
Please add a real time temp gauge to your R5 and S-III. A small, simple 5 dot heat meter line. (Looks like an audio level meter) have 2 green, 1 yellow 1 orange and 1 red colored dot.
This gives people more warning that their camera is getting hot. The more you know BEFORE a shutdown the better. I'd rather know it comming in 10min than find out 30 seconds before!
How hard would that EXTREMELY valuable information be to add to the display?

90% of us here are NOT shocked about this R5 stuff. We have been watching the industry do this same sort of crap for 20+ years. Camera crippling is a necessity in the camera industry. Its a vital strategy to separate, split and divide camera models into various customer teirs. Without crippling, every company's fleet gets overlapped and consumer cannibalism goes wild.
So yeah....if anybody is in the 10% "shocked" catagory,...then shame on you. I have to laugh as either you are a complete industry "noobie" or you literally just have NOT been paying attention whatsoever....not even a little bit! 
I posted at the beginning of the year that the R5 would have extremely limited recording restrictions due to a Cannot source that tipped me off to this.
This was a calculated marketing decision, NOT a mistake in any way.
Sadly.....camera crippling has served companies very well for 20+ years. It will still be here long after all of us are gone.

Message to Sony and Cannot:
Please add a real time temp gauge to your R5 and S-III. A small, simple 5 dot heat meter line. (Looks like an audio level meter) have 2 green, 1 yellow 1 orange and 1 red colored dot.
This gives people more warning that their camera is getting hot. The more you know BEFORE a shutdown the better. I'd rather know it comming in 10min than find out 30 seconds before!
How hard would that EXTREMELY valuable information be to add to the display?

Andrew....I have said this over and over and over again. The heat condition of the R5 is not an engineering "mistake" on Cannot's part. It is literally doing exactly as it was designed to do from day one. Cannot wants the R5 to be used only in specific ways and this does not coincide with the way "we" want to use it.
We have a need that we want the R5 to fill. However, Cannot wants to sell us a different camera for our need.  Yes, the firmware is deliberately highly restrictive. They are actively "steering" their customers the best way the know how with these crippling tricks.
As customers, we need to stop thinking the R5 was an engineering mistake and simply let accept it as a casual camera that has zero overlap with any of their true camcorders.
Cannot will never stab their Cine EOS team in the back....no matter how bad we want them to. If anybody thinks the Cine EOS team doesnt care about the R5 and was not in many of the R5 devopment meetings and planning discussions....you are crazy!

Andrew....I have said this over and over and over again. The heat condition of the R5 is not an engineering "mistake" on Cannot's part. It is literally doing exactly as it was designed to do from day one. Cannot wants the R5 to be used only in specific ways and this does not coincide with the way "we" want to use it.
We have a need that we want the R5 to fill. However, Cannot wants to sell us a different camera for our need.  Yes, the firmware is deliberately highly restrictive. They are actively "steering" their customers the best way the know how with these crippling tricks.
As customers, we need to stop thinking the R5 was an engineering mistake and simply let accept it as a casual camera that has zero overlap with any of their true camcorders.
Cannot will never stab their Cine EOS team in the back....no matter how bad we want them to. If anybody thinks the Cine EOS team doesnt care about the R5 and was not in many of the R5 devopment meetings and planning discussions....you are crazy!

Bottom line:
Canon wants this camera to be used only in certain ways for specific applications. So, they design the R5 for that and that only.
We, however want to use the R5 "our" way. We want it to "fit" into the way "we" work. We pretty much all want to use the R5 "our" way and we are getting pissed that its not working.
The problem is "us". We expect too much from the R5 but we eventually need to learn how to accept it for the limited application it was designwd for.
The R5 is not a pro camcorder. Its not for paid video work. Its made to capture your kids in your backyard in 8k or your cats playing with a laser pointer. Its made for casual home shooting and nothing more.
Its failure us our fault, no Cannon's
CT

Bottom line:
Canon wants this camera to be used only in certain ways for specific applications. So, they design the R5 for that and that only.
We, however want to use the R5 "our" way. We want it to "fit" into the way "we" work. We pretty much all want to use the R5 "our" way and we are getting pissed that its not working.
The problem is "us". We expect too much from the R5 but we eventually need to learn how to accept it for the limited application it was designwd for.
The R5 is not a pro camcorder. Its not for paid video work. Its made to capture your kids in your backyard in 8k or your cats playing with a laser pointer. Its made for casual home shooting and nothing more.
Its failure us our fault, no Cannon's
CT

Bottom line:
Canon wants this camera to be used only in certain ways for specific applications. So, they design the R5 for that and that only.
We, however want to use the R5 "our" way. We want it to "fit" into the way "we" work. We pretty much all want to use the R5 "our" way and we are getting pissed that its not working.
The problem is "us". We expect too much from the R5 but we eventually need to learn how to accept it for the limited application it was designwd for.
The R5 is not a pro camcorder. Its not for paid video work. Its made to capture your kids in your backyard in 8k or your cats playing with a laser pointer. Its made for casual home shooting and nothing more.
Its failure us our fault, no Cannon's
CT

Many Cannon fans are saying
"That's OK,...I can work arround the heat. I only shoot short clips anyway..."
These guys ARE going to find that they get burned with shutdowns more than they anticipated. Its going to hit them when they LEAST want it to. 
I predict that the used market will be FLOODED with R5's starting in 6 months and we will see WAY more R5's for sale on eBay than we would normally see.
The R5 resale value is going to be terrible and Cannon makes zero dollars from resold cameras.

Many Cannon fans are saying
"That's OK,...I can work arround the heat. I only shoot short clips anyway..."
These guys ARE going to find that they get burned with shutdowns more than they anticipated. Its going to hit them when they LEAST want it to. 
I predict that the used market will be FLOODED with R5's starting in 6 months and we will see WAY more R5's for sale on eBay than we would normally see.
The R5 resale value is going to be terrible and Cannon makes zero dollars from resold cameras.