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Nikon uses XQD as well, basically the world of next gen cards seems to be broken into XQD vs CFast. And Panasonic hasn't really given any indication at all as to which way they might jump for their top of the line mirrorless camera. (except that Panasonic does use P2 cards, but just maaaaybe, they might see the P2 users as a totally different class to GH series users and thus class them with something else of XQD or CFast. Anyway.... they might just stick with SD cards, as the latest fasts cards can handle 4K 10bit) By the time the GH5 comes out next year the DVX200 will be becoming reasonably long in the tooth, and remember a large chunk of the cost of the DVX200 is its Leica lens, which a GH body never comes with. Plus the DVX200 is aimed for a rather different class of users. I fully agree Panasonic should bring out a low/mid range camera above their mirrorless range. But they certainly could have a GH5 4K 10bit @US$2K + AF200 (as a direct FS7/C300mk2) @US$8K + Varicam LT kit @US$25K, without needing to worry about any substantial overlap between the three of them. And as Panasonic has been gaining a lot of attention with the GH4 (and hopefully even more with the GH5!!), they're gaining lots of new users, especially people new ish to filmmaking in general, so you want a very clear path for them to follow as they grow up and improve and expand out. At the moment a young professional starting out with a GH4 today is most likely to get a Sony FS7 / RED Raven / URSA Mini 4.6K next, instead of a Panasonic camera. Having a cheaper Varicam LT helps a bit from what it used to be before, but the jump is still too large from GH4 to Varicam LT!! There needs to be at least one (or two!) steeping stones between the GH4 and the Varicam LT. Otherwise you will leak customers as they move up in price point.

Just get a focal reducer and Tokina 11-20mm f2.8 Sorted. Not that hard at all :-)

Indeed, asking for 2.35 and 1.85 aspect ratio crop lines on 16:9 is such a simple and basic request they could have EASILY included even all the way back to GH1 days. But they haven't yet.

If 10bit 4K internal comes in the GH5 (as we are now expecting) then Panasonic has won the game of camera wars for this round. Panasonic was first mirrorless/DSLR with 10bit external before anybody else, now it looks like Panasonic will be first with 10bit internal before anyone else had even caught up and offered 10bit external aside from Panasonic!!

I'd be much much more tempted by a BMMCC or secondhand BMPCC (I have one myself) than a 5Dmk2 for ML raw.

Probably, product cycles can be quite long.

Nah, I'd rather have it in the form factor of the Sony XLR-K2M to help keep it even more compact. But if you have the choice of either battery grip size for audio or a XLR-K2M styled option, then that is cool too.

Heh, mine has just been sitting on the shelf! I have so many better/easier cameras to use instead.

Why? You can use a focal reducer with a Panasonic AF100 or Sony FS5 or Sony FS700 or Sony FS7, all of which also have built in ND filters. And has ZERO of the issues I meantioned about the ND adapter you linked to.

Wouldn't mind it if they start using XQD or CFast cards in the GH bodies. (but please not microP2!)

But what if you want clear? Or wish to use native lenses?? Or use a focul reducer?

422 without going to 10bit as well wouldn't be a huge gain, don't want to still be stuck with 8bit. An internal ND filter adapter doesn't seem realistic. Needs to be built into the camera. And XLR-K2M form factor would be much nicer than YAGH styling.

Don't worry, even I (self proclaimed "King of Canon Haters") own a Canon DSLR as well A Canon 50D! :-o Which I picked up for NZ$50 (which is about US$35 ish).

I'd be surprised if it does not have IBIS, after the GX80 has it. And Olympus is bringing a 4K IBIS camera. GH5 needs something that is cutting edge above all other competitors to keep it in the lead for the long cycle until the GH6 comes out. FHD 240fps probably wouldn't be it.... (even RX10/RX100 series has that). But 4K 60fps could do it!

More info is coming soon: http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-no-full-gh5-announcement-photokina/ My thoughts is, please please please have this (in order of priority): 4K DCI 60fps 10bit 422 internal with no crop + IBIS + XLR-K2M style audio implementation (not add audio like the YAGH!!) + built in ND filter (if the RX10 can do it, why not a GH5?? Even better if variable ND filter like the FS5!!) + 240fps FHD + multi aspect ratio sensor (like the GH2). Do that and I'll sell my wife, soul, and first born to get one. Do check out the XLR-K2M, is a nifty Sony product which can be put on their mirrorless cameras, or even point and shoots! I see no reason at all why Panasonic couldn't bring this out if they considered it. The Sony RX10 mk2 is priced way under US$2K, and has an ND filter. Even if they GH5 doesn't have the fancy FS5 ND filter and only has a basic RX10 type ND filter then I'd still be happy with that as a big improvement for the GH line up As it looks like an AF200 is not coming, I think Panasonic really needs to bring their best A game with the GH5! And the GX9/G8 can be photography focused cameras, plus there is Olympus for MFT users.

You're also gaining a much greater range! Good choice I think.

AnthingButEOS.com Wonder if "BeyondHD.com" is taken. wow, true, 8yrs since 50D came out! And then a little while after the 5Dmk2

Hope so, but doubt it. I think there is almost ZERO chance of internal raw. Currently Panasonic GH4 is the only one doing external 10bit, so it isn't like they're being pushed to do more! But it is the natural next step for the GH series to do (just like how the a7S mk1 to a7S mk2 went from external 4K to internal 4K)

Brace yourself for more disappointment!

Wouldn't be a bad thing if EOSHD had a few guest posts, it would also mean the main page gets updated more often. And even if Andrew Reid was only writing a few short paragraphs, I'm sure most of us here would welcome a guest post from Andrew! I know I would on my humble little blog.

Welcome, glad to see another D750 fan here! A friend of mine got one of these recently as his first DSLR. And I've got wedding photographer friends who use them too. As a Nikon shooter myself (D50 => D90 => D5200 , chose the D5200 thanks to EOSHD!) I am tempted by the D750 indeed, especially as it has experienced a big price drop lately. (just need to save up that $$$$ 1st!)

I thought that was just temporary?

How do they spend money against you?!?!

Was replying to a comment when I was shocked to get this error message.

Newshooter had a hands on play with it: http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/08/25/hands-on-preview-canon-5d-mkiv-has-4k-internal-recording-with-a-1-74x-crop/ ML is possible with CF and SD, don't know what you mean?? Probably wouldn't get 4K raw without CFast though.