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1 hour ago, kuban said:

Just seen what is purported to be a leaked image of the new pocket camera, if true, looks wise is horrid.

Like this?

 

No pocket carrying with this one!

But if it means great functionality/horsepower, then it is worth it

https://youtu.be/2M7CgEVgojM?t=1838

^ direct link to the FS5mk2 announcement

3 hours ago, squig said:

Never let cinematographers into the house.

That is what Simon thinks now!

2 hours ago, Django said:

and yes this doesn't bode well at all for A7S3 prospects..

Yeah if the FS5mk2 doesn't get 4K 10bit then I rate at near 0% chance that an a7Smk3 released this year will have 10bit internal. 

Looks great!

Wow! Bet this will be a strong alternatives to say Veydra lenses?

3 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

If you go down to the second comment it mentions HDMI Raw output on the FS5.

Yeah, but he is wrong. 

Don't believe everything you read on the internet ;-) 

I put online my long rambling pre-NAB thoughts, together with a couple of friends of mine:

20 hours ago, johnnyd said:

Unfortunately FS700 only does 4k through the SDI and this is probably hdmi only. Would be nice though if it had sdi too, a smaller 4k recorder is something I've been waiting for a while.

Yeah after I made my comment I realised the name "Ninja" is what Atomos uses to refer to their HDMI only recorders :-/ So wouldn't work with 4K raw. Sad. :-/ 

23 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

I thought the BMPCC came out before a MTF BMCC did? Wasn't the BMCC EF mount, PL mount out a long time before they made a MFT version of it?

Yes, they didn't launch the BMCC MFT until after the other BMCC ones were already announced and shipping for a while. 

18 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

God no, it could have been called "The Donald Trump Fluffy Kitten And Puppy Decapitator" and the EVF would still have been its bigger negative by a country mile 

Ha. But heh, everyone I suppose has different priorities, the EVF doesn't rate as high to me as for others. 

No, some like BP-U30 are very small. 

Is what the Kinefinity Terra and Mavo bodies use. 

Thanks for mentioning the EOSHD community in the Video!

13 hours ago, DaveAltizer said:

Side bar, why is there different threads above the general thread? Like black magic cameras and stuff for sale etc. more people view these general posts 

They're not threads. They'e subforums

12 hours ago, kye said:

There is logic to this as there is convenience in a manufacturer providing compatibility across their range of cameras.  Not only does it mean that on set you can have the A-cam and B-cam (and C-cam?) arrangement sharing lenses etc, but it also means that when someone buys into a system at the lower end there's less friction for them to upgrade within the system.

Sony supports this, from the a5100 to the VENICE. 

Meanwhile, Panasonic fvcked this up with their EVA1 not having a MFT option. 

3 hours ago, Trek of Joy said:

Just for @BTM_Pix, there are now pics floating around of a banner showing the new Atomos Ninja V - a 5", 1000nit, recorder/monitor that does 4k60p and Prores raw. I've held off on a external recorder because I want it to be somewhat future proof and do 60p, and the 7" screens are too big for my shooting style, but this might just fit the bill. 

 Fantastic news!! This makes a FS700 much more attractive, as I too didn't want to use a 7" monitor with it. 

1 hour ago, webrunner5 said:

Yeas but the BMCC MFT one has a inactive mount. Not my idea of heaven on earth

It was BMD's first ever MFT camera. 

I don't imagine they will do an inactive mount again, not now they have the experience of building active MFT mount cameras. 

8 hours ago, Cinegain said:

Btw, is JVC attending? How old is that GY-LS300 in meanwhile? Would be interesting to see an update to that concept as well.

JVC has quite a large stand at NAB 

I too am hopefully JVC will release another MFT cinema camera. 

7 hours ago, mercer said:

If it was such a popular professional mount, then why doesn’t the Ursa Pro have a Micro 4/3 Mount? 

I believe this was a mistake by both BMD and Panasonic not to release a locking MFT mount with their cinema cameras. (Like Sony has done with their E mount, with the FS7mk2 and the new VENICE).

8 hours ago, Cinegain said:

Think that had more to do with the name 'JVC' giving flashbacks to mom & dad DV camcorders. Apparently there were some letdowns like display quality as well. But all who have tried it had seemed positively suprised by what it was able to do... and now many quite significant firmware updates later, it's quite capable. Really like the idea of an APS-C sensor behind a MFT mount leading to new possibilities. Wouldn't mind the new Blackmagic pocket rocket to be capable of such as well.

Yup, the MFT mount was a *strength* of that camera, while its biggest negative was perhaps its name. 

6 hours ago, Cinegain said:

Especially now a lot of folks in that scene have been shooting with cameras like the GH2, G7, GH4 and GH5 and have quite the lens collection. The problem now is... where you go from there?

Exactly why it was a mistake of Panasonic not to have an EVA1 MFT camera. 

As the EVA1 left nowhere to go for Panasonic's **own customers**!! Way to go Panasonic in neglecting your faithful followers. 

Meanwhile with Sony you could buy a lenses for your a5100 and keep on using it all the way up to the VENICE!!

5 hours ago, Geoff CB said:

They would have put 4.6K in the name if it was.

No, as it could be the 4.6K sensor at the heart of it, but a cut of it. A 4K sized cut of it. 

Well with the Micro (which has the same sensor) they didn't repeat it with the same teeny battery, so I doubt they'll stick with the old BMPCC battery. A new one will surely be chosen. (fingers crossed for NP-F or BP-U!)

Hopefully it doesn't have the Micro Studio sensor. 

But BMD might think now that they've had the firmware update which boosts DR 2 stops and gives base ISO a raise from 400 to 800 that this is sufficient for BMPCC Generation 2.0?!  

Hope not. 

6 hours ago, sanveer said:

I hope it has the 4.6k sensor instead of the 4k sensor. The difference between the two is just too much.

P.S. that sensor size may most likely be different, so this comment may not be valid. 

I can't imagine the BMPC4K being crammed into anything which could be described as "pocket"?! It would surprise me. 

But yes, I also hope not!

19 minutes ago, jonpais said:

 

Shot on What alone lists dozens features and shorts shot with the BMPCC, which at one time sold for as little as $500. 

 

Astonishingly they'e still selling secondhand for more than that!

Hopefully the new BMPCC4K will push down hard prices of the secondhand  original BMPCC

Cinema lenses are ultra expensive for many more reasons than just doing a focus pull 

1 hour ago, DaveAltizer said:

Would be incredible. Flippy selfie screen??...probably not... good AF? No way. But amazing IQ and video features like peaking, waveforms, and ProRes...OH YA!

I use my BMPCC now as a vlog camera, a flip up screen would be a bigger upgrade for me than 4K!

3 hours ago, Greg Block said:

@Trek of Joy

 

This fall is my guess...they skipped last year's NAB announcing a camera, so they could ship on my time is my reasoning.

BMD has taken to heart the criticism and seems keen to ship cameras immediately now or at least in a timely manner 

Then again they might regress to old form....    so anything is possible!

11 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I don't agree.

Can only think of the E mount adapter where the Terra wins?

I'm not sure thats a bigger win than having the MFT mount on the GH5s?

Kinefinity's boosted EF mount is only 0.72 reduction whereas you can go deeper than that with a Metabones EF to MFT.

 

I would rate the KineMount over a MFT mount. (Btw Kinefinity is a member of the Micro Four Thirds  group)

3 hours ago, MoonCannon said:

Honestly, if it was the ursa mini 4.6k sensor (in terms of color and DR) but 4k and small enough to be a "pocket" I'd be over the moon

I've suggested a few times that a 4K cut of the 4.6K sensor in a MFT mount would be a big hit. 

This is after all what the BMPCC was, a 1080 cut of the 2.5K sensor of the BMCC

9 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

And with a more flexible lens mount.

False.