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    NX2 rumors

    In: Cameras

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    1 hour ago, Eric Calabros said:

    Even with this crazy specs they can't get considerable market share. At best case scenario it will eat their own D750 lunch. 

    So long as Nikon also has great usability (waveforms like GH5 has would be nice, and ability to punch in for focus while recording, that sort of stuff) and launches with an excellent Nikon F / "New_Mount" adapter, then this camera will be a rock star and sell like hotcakes. As the Nikon name still has a substantial amount of pulling power. 

    Decisions decisions

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    Posted

    59 minutes ago, jonpais said:

    Many cameras continue to be produced by much smaller companies than Samsung. Kinefinity. The LS300. Cameras which receive next to no notice whatsoever.

     


    I'd make the counterpoint that it is easier for a cinema camera which appeals to a niche market to thrive and remain viable than a mass market stills consumer camera.

    NX2 rumors

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    5 hours ago, buggz said:

    Didn't Samsung get sued by Canon over patents?

    Isn't this why the NX1 was "abandoned"?


    I haven't heard this? Sources?

     

     

    2 hours ago, Robert Collins said:

    But just because NX2 resurrection is a non-starter doesnt mean that they are not developing the sensor. Why should Samsung leave the high end image sensor market up to Sony especially as they know that Nikon and Canon dont particularly like sourcing from one of their competitors (Canon uses Sony's 1 inch sensor.) Canon and Nikon would be bonkers not to put this tech and this sort of sensor into their mirrorless offerings. And quite frankly from Samsung's perspective, these sensors in Canikon bodies will show off their smartphone 'image sensor' tech far more than any fleeting interest in an NX2.


    Yeah, I would rate as another slim possibility is the "NX2" never gets sold but just was a test bed for development of a new APS-C sensor to sell to Canon / Nikon (or heck even Fujifilm, or Pentax? Maybe maybe even a small player like BMD or Kinefinity etc)

     

     

    30 minutes ago, Arikhan said:

    Though, even in the automotive industry, many companies develop prototypes or concept cars never going out to market. They simply use one or more top technologies to put them in other cars/parts brought to markets.


    Yeah but my hope is the "NX2" is a prototype they at least bother to put out to market, even if it is without any supporting new lenses or any high street stock supply etc... 

    NX2 rumors

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    The only hope for this happening is if Samsung decides it is a good idea to do a limited release to showcase the power of the Samsung processor, purely as a promotional tool to promote Samsung smartphone sales!

    An unlikely but not impossible scenario. 

    Decisions decisions

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    The only hope for this happening is if Samsung decides it is a good idea to do a limited release to showcase the power of the Samsung processor, purely as a promotional tool to promote Samsung smartphone sales!

    An unlikely but not impossible scenario. 

     

     

    10 hours ago, Kisaha said:

    And a couple of S lenses (an S ultra wide is the only thing I miss on the system).


    At least with UWA lenses the DoF is so deep it isn't unreasonable to just use a manual focus lens instead of a native lens with AF. 

    So out of all the lenses for Samsung NX system to miss out on, this is the least of a person's worries. Phew

    Decisions decisions

    In: Cameras

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    5 hours ago, Kisaha said:

    I do have the feeling that we will see something soon, maybe the new Nikon, in anyway we will see, and NX is still relevant. Remember, back then GH4 was a 16mgpxls camera, and Fuji also without doing video.


    Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe this:

     

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    High-end Samsung APS-C camera based on Exynos 9810 SoC.

    I got to play with something insane today. Samsung Mobile (who took over the camera division) retrofitted an NX1 with a new APS-C sensor and Exynos 9810 SoC, which is rumored to launch in the Samsung S9.

    30,1 megapixels sensor (6720*4480) which is stacked (3-stack FRS) ISOCELL with Tetracell and dual-pixel AF. Extremely fast readout combined with 4K 120fps h/265 encode capability enable impressive framerates
    – Full sensor (6720*4480) @ 30fps
    – 5376*3024 @ 60fps
    – 3840*2160 @ 120fps
    – 2688*1512 @ 240fps
    – 1920*1080 @ 480fps
    Up to 120fps should be full sensor read-out, 2.7K and 1080p at higher frame-rates is 2×2 pixel binning and then down-sampling (so full width of sensor is used up to 480fps (!).

    15fps burst with mechanical shutter, 30fps RAW with electronic shutter. Practically no read-out noise so extremely ISO invariant (thanks to ISOCELL’s deep trench isolation). AF is insane with combination of dual-pixel and ‘Super PD’, which is regular in-sensor phase detection.

    All features of Exynos 9810 are enabled (except a small part of GPU), so a huge amount of in-camera processing power, optional LTE-connectivity with eSIM, GNSS (GPS, GLONASS, BeiDou) for location tagging, SD 3.0 with UHS-II support for memory cards (up to 300 MB/s), Bluetooth 5 for continuous low-power connection and 802.11ac with 2×2 MIMO for fast image- and video transfer. USB 3.1 Type-C with DP enabled for uncompressed output up to 5K 30fps and 4K 60fps. There is a PCIe 3.0 x2 bus left if they decide to add something like a CFexpress card-slot, or Thunderbolt 3 or 10GbE.

    Very impressive software feature was accelerometer-based shutter. You press the shutter, and the accelerometer registers the G-forces (acceleration). Then it takes a picture when the X- and Y-acceleration are closest to 0 and the Z-acceleration is closest to 1 (natural gravity). Doesn’t work perfect (you can still move without accelerating), but I was able to double to triple my handheld shutter-speed, so that means at least a stop lower ISO. Delay between pressing and shooting is about half a second, so it’s not for sports. They are working to also implement the gyroscopic data to pick the moment with the least amount of roll. This feature makes is probably to the S9.

    Like I said, it’s a prototype, based on a NX1, and they don’t know yet if it will ever hit the market, but if it does it will be at least as ground breaking as the original NX1 (they were thinking about a few extra things (variable ND, IBIS, HBM2-buffer), but hey, research is expensive and upper management).



    https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/good-true-high-end-samsung-aps-c-camera-based-exynos-9810-soc/

    Panasonic GH6 - Predictions

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    49 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

    3 CMOS 2/3 inch 4K  broadcast cameras from Ikemgami and JVC, very recent 4K tech too:)


    Yes, but 2/3" is still small!

    I guess I should have mentioned the few 1" ones out there, that at least is nice.

    Decisions decisions

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    44 minutes ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Like you and I discussed already, it's probably worth waiting a few months. I have this nagging feeling someone is going to drop a bombshell camera this year and give many of us buyer's remorse. IF (a tentatively doubtful if) it's a new NX camera, it's going to crush a lot of competitor's dreams, let's get that straight. And hopefully this time the industry won't lynch mob it like they did with the NX1. 


    Indeed, NAB is not far away as it is in early April. 

    But then once NAB rolls round, and IF a camera is released which blows our socks off (next to zero chance that is from Samsung), we might very well have a few months to wait until it ships? Then unless you want to take the big risk of being an early adopter, you have a few more months to wait out to see independent reviews published and read user reports of it in practice. By this point in time, oh hey, 2019 NAB maybe isn't that far away.... and so the cycle carries on forever!

     

    31 minutes ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    It's nothing quantifiable, more a perception I and some other NX1 owners have. In particular a lot of pretty reputable online reviewers where either hostile or sarcastic towards Samsung's entry into the DLSM market, and I felt they were very hard on the camera whilst giving lessor (but more well known brands) cameras flying colors. It seemed a bit "intentional".

     


    Yeah I saw that too :-/ 

    If not for EOSHD's forums I'd probably never have taken a serious look at the NX1! (leading to purchasing a NX300 dirt cheap, thinking I might next buy a NX1 and keep the NX300 as a dirt cheap B cam on the side. Although that never panned out)

    Decisions decisions

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    42 minutes ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    It's build is very plasticy (although light)


    The EVA1 has a magnesium frame underneath (not cheap, but tough! And very lightweight metal for its strength), then plastic coverings to even further reduce the weight. All in all making for one incredibly lightweight cinema camera in the hand! And one you shouldn't need to worry about how "tough" it is.

    C100 mark II vs C300

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    1 hour ago, HockeyFan12 said:

    @IronFilm isn't the only one who prefers F3 ergonomics, but I certainly don't.


    I prefer the handling of the C100 over the F3. 

    But the C100 and F3 are in two different categories as cameras.

    When you comparing F3 vs C300, then the F3 nudges ahead by a nose for its handling. But I fully admit this is very subjective, and varies from person to person. Even with the same person, their views can change from job to job! Depending on the needs/style of the shoot.

     

    1 hour ago, HockeyFan12 said:

    If you're a pro hiring out dual system sound, genlock pays for itself fast, and the C100 lacks it.

    Note: genlock and timecode are two different things. 

    Just in case maybe you might be confusing the two?

    The D850 is slightly better than A7R3

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    8 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

    Did you also have D cam, E cam, Z cam too?! :) (Z cam = zombie cam).


    And was Z Cam made by.... Z Cam? ;-)

     

    8 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

    So many cameras. You must have more than even me! ;)


    The feature I did in Oz last year used FIVE different cameras.

    Every shot was always a multicam shot. 

    Live was hell for sound! (me)

    Canon 1DC in 2018

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    13 hours ago, Hitfabryk said:

    What do you guys think about this GAS? What would you do?

     


    Sounds like you already have a tonne of cameras!

    Thus worth looking deep inside yourself to see if you're a GAS sufferer and perhaps you need to nip this thought off at the bud.

    One approach which helps for me is to consider ROI (Return on Investment). 

    Will the 1D C earn you more money than not having it? Will it do so better than any other place you could put that money? (technical term: "lost opportunity cost". I'm a hard core economics nerd by the way... if you can't tell already! ha)

    13 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

    The ones to consider are:

    D850

    A7R3

    GH5/GH5S with Canon EF Speed Booster XL


    We're spoiled for choices around that price point! 

    Got also the Sony FS700 / Sony PMW-F3 / JVC LS300 / RED ONE / URSA Mini / etc

    7 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

    You can use any 1080p HDMI recorder for that. Yes Ninja 2 would work. Ninja Star as well (to keep small form factor).


    Have used the Ninja 2, and its monitor is so shit it is hard to really use it as a monitor / recorder.

    The Atomos Ninja Blade (I own the Samurai Blade, which is SDI, for my Sony F3) is so dirt cheap as well that I very strongly recommend the small extra cost of this over the Ninja 2 (or instead of a Ninja Blade, a BMD Video Assist is a good choice too). 

     

    What was the first professional camera to shoot LOG gamma?

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    3 hours ago, HockeyFan12 said:

    I completely agree with @Damphousse that highlight roll off matters more than dynamic range to the average viewer. That's why I never got behind the A7S. The chroma clipping is severe. With a C300 or F3, my image might clip, but I can make it clip in a way that's aesthetically pleasing. With the A7S (and the early F5, it's better now) colors clipped wrong and it looked like video. So for me, the camera with the lower dynamic range is the one with the better image and grading potential, subjectively. The Alexa gets both right, you'll want to grade to burn it out.

     


    That is a big big appeal of the Arri cameras, and why they are #1. Because of their highlight roll off.

     

    What was the first professional camera to shoot LOG gamma?

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    9 hours ago, maxotics said:

    It's what we do after learning our errors that define us (hint, hint @IronFilm). 


    Huh, what are you hinting at?

     

    9 hours ago, EthanAlexander said:

    I do appreciate all your posts though! They're educational and make me think. And your posts back in June are actually the reason I even signed up for a forum account... I signed up to argue with you about S Log :lol::bawling:


    Maybe we need more controversial threads started on EOSHD! ;-) 

     

    3 hours ago, Damphousse said:

    There are so many beautiful images shot with log.  You just have to have the right camera.  The $500 BMPCC trounces cameras costing thousands of dollars.  If I have enough light and expose correctly I have never felt let down by the 10 bit 422 Prores the BMPCC uses.  Raw seems sharper but I have never really felt the midrange color was lacking in prores.  I don't use the camera a ton though so some pros may have some better insight.


    Where is this $500 BMPCC?? The sale ended a long long time ago :-( :-( 

    Keep on wishing for a $500 BMMCC!! :-D

    C100 mark II vs C300

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    49 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

    Completely different cameras. Size and ergonomics completely different.


    True, I don't like how top heavy the C300 is (not a problem the F3 has...)

     

     

    50 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

    and with C300 you need a full rig for it, it isn't "plug n play" such as the C100.


    Nah, not so, plenty of people shoot with just a C300 + lens and not much else (although yes, there are also people who massively rig it up)

     

     

    53 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

    no worthy slow motion though


    4K 60fps external output is a heck of a lot more than the C300mk1 can do!

     

     

    55 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

    worst low light capabilities

    I'd be curious to see side by side of a LS300 vs C100, with the LS300 having a focal reducer and down scaled 4K 422, maybe your assumption here won't hold true?

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