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3 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:
Yes, I spotted that the other day. Was it Jon Brawley who said that?
I forgot who, but it was at least JB, if not one of the BMD reps.
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On 3/23/2018 at 1:10 AM, BTM_Pix said:
My theory is that its stills and video modes are so distinct code wise that it is effectively almost like a reboot when you switch, hence why it has to be a physical control.
Apparently every time the original BMPCC switched frame rates it was rebooting! :-o But it was doing it pretty quickly. -
The boot licking in that other forum is other worldly.
- andrgl and Trek of Joy
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20 minutes ago, anonim said:
Thank you - just, maybe omission of Terra 4K looks more founded because of higher price?
The body of the Terra 4K is "only" a grand and half more than the body of the GH5S
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1 hour ago, Dan Wake said:
Just use velcro
44 minutes ago, squig said:That's why god gave us velcro.
Oh snap!
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1 hour ago, jonpais said:
What's lacking on all three cameras, as I see it, is 1080i 50Mbps.
They're also all lacked a SD recording resolution option.49 minutes ago, anonim said:Apart of fear of some funny pompous voices, I can't understand why GH5 would not be include in the list - especially if the sense of comparison is working usability?
Agree it should be a four way face off with the original GH5 as well.
Five if you consider counting the Kinefinity Terra 4K as well! -
A "pro" shared by all three (yet is very rare at this price point!): timecode inputs!
It is an unknown however as to which of the three are implementing it best, my money is on perhaps the BMPCC4K
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1304877-REG/panasonic_dmw_xlr1_xlr_microphone_adapter.html
The Panasonic DMW-XLR1 is a specific pro in favor of just the GH5.
The mini XLR input is a pro just in favor for the BMPCC4K -
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1 hour ago, Snowfun said:
For my own 2018 preorders it’s a two horse race - Hydrogen vs Pocket...
Three horse race:
Hydrogen vs Pocket 4K vs Z Cam E2
No wait, yes it is a two horse race:
Pocket 4K vs Z Cam E2
As once you add the interchangeable lens mount module for Hydrogen then I am 100% sure it will be in a completely different pricing territory to either the Pocket or the E2 (more like Terra 4K price, if not even much more!). -
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Maybe mk3 of this camera series is what you'll want:
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35 minutes ago, kye said:
Have Canon done all their NAB2018 announcements yet? I had in the back of my mind they might be announcing the XC20..
https://www.newsshooter.com/2018/04/13/canon-intelligent-compact-camera-concept/
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http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?167012-Update-4-12-2018
Heh, RED has been pretty bad in the past with delays (or straight up cancelling projects), but even still now in 2018 they don't meet shipping targets.
I think we can give BMD a bit of slack! Even though I'm fairly optimistic they'll meet their November target. -
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15 minutes ago, kye said:
My daughter is onto her third iPhone in two years just through being careless (she's a dreamer and just not aware that her phone will fall out of her pocket if she does a handstand or whatever) and my son thinks that dropping a pair of headphones onto the floor in a moment of exasperation when he dies on xbox and then picking them up by the cord when he starts the next game is still within our instructions to "be careful and treat them properly" - I'll leave you to imagine how long a pair of headphones last in our house.
My all time record is 13 phones gone through in a single year. So your daughter is not doing too bad! -
39 minutes ago, kye said:
Or when ML is ported to the camera... although that might be a tall order depending on what the insides look like from a technical perspective.
Not using the same base OS in the M50 as in the Canon DSLR series, thus I reckon the chances are near ish nil that ML will be ported across.
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Heh, makes me wonder if there is a market opportunity to take in ANY record trigger to then pass it out in ANY other record trigger. (for instance feed in Canon trigger, pass out Sony trigger) For recorders etc which don't support all the record triggers.
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6 hours ago, salim said:
https://www.sounddevices.com/support/downloads/mixpres-firmware
Only just saw this earlier this afternoon.
No major major changes which change my overall opinion on them, I reckon the Zoom F4 is still the best buy in the sub $2K ish market. Unless there is something else which you very specifically need. -
1 hour ago, Kisaha said:
The problem with GoPro is that other companys make similar cameras for 1/3, or less, money. They were always priced very high, in my opinion, and then they had that drone fiasco, that was the last drop certainly.
Yeah I have tonnes of Yi action cameras instead. I should never have purchased my GoPro Hero 3 Black
1 hour ago, kye said:I'm surprised no-one has posted this video yet...
EmpowerAll.com and FunBug are all gone and non-used domains now!
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17 minutes ago, DBounce said:
Sorry @jonpais, I didn’t hear about that “rumor” here. I heard about that from a rep from a major European distributor. I think it’s safe to say it’s no rumor.
But was it real, or FUD aimed at the competitor? Always important to consider where the source of the "info" is coming from.
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6 hours ago, sanveer said:
I shared a video (or more than one), where one of the Blackmagic employees says that it does upto 100fps non-windowed.
Yes, I remember this being said as well. That is pretty close to the max fps! Which is nice if you don't wish to window it.1 hour ago, jonpais said:Recording to a drive via USB-C seems a touch risky to me. The photo where they just have a Samsung drive dangling off the camera - all you’ve got to do is breathe and it will fall out. I suppose a clamp comes with the camera?
I imagine for people trying to shoot with 4K on the BMPCC4K with an ultra frugal budget (i.e. not just getting a tonne of CFast cards), that their shooting style will have a lot of similarities to the way RED ONE folks shoot (for those who don't have the SSD module, or only have a limited number of gigs on it). At least until CFast prices fall further.
What they'll do is for the tripod shots they'll use their USB-C (just like RED ONEs using their RED-DRIVE for tripod shots) but then switch over to using their CFast card when handheld (again, just like how RED ONE owners would then switch over to CF or SSD when then going handheld).
Taking this hybrid approach is saner than constantly having a USB-C drive hanging off at all times. -
11 hours ago, Kisaha said:
Unfortunately there are specific laws of physics that the simplest thing, isn't that simple!
I am sure in the near future AI engines with multiple microphones will choose automatically and mix appropriately all the sound sources it can control through complicated algorithms and true artificial intelligence.
I could easily imagine a future a decade or three down the tracks where AI robots have "stolen our jobs!"
HOWEVER, I don't believe the way this would happen is by using an ambisonic mic that then "focuses" in on what is wanted.
Rather it would instead by via liberal usage of lavs (and/or plant mics) which then gets agressively cleaned up via super advanced AI like we're already starting to see in the likes of programs such as iZotope RX (together with advanced automixing). Which then ends up producing quite usable dialogue even from sloppily used lavs.11 hours ago, Kisaha said:Having an experienced sound specialist with the right equipment is the best approach. My specialization is documentary, and I have worked in numerous productions, and recently in spontaneous travel shows e.t.c Believe it or not, the need for an experienced soundman is a nessecity. If you let the cameramen with 2 mics -for each camera, the sound would be almost unusuable.
The most "casual" and easy the shot seems, the most complicate and difficult is.
Imagine having 1 camera and 1 lens to operate, and at the same time I had 5 wireless and 1 boom. All those had batteries, needed to turned off and on accordingly, had to search for frequencies occassionally while booming the same time for safety and on the spot sound FX (e.g when they were cooking I had to do the sound FX gathering simultaneously with the boom) e.t.c
I bet that most people believed that this was the easiest sound job ever! Actually on set and after rehearsals are the easiest jobs (depending the director and if they stick to the script and rehearsals), live and on documentaries a sound man shows his/hers worth.
Saw this posted on FB, worth sharing on this topic:
QuoteThe "REALITY" is:
A Sound Mixer, Sound Recordist, and Sound Engineer are THREE different people, with different backgrounds, training and experience.
To expect that ONE guy can wire a half dozen non-professional talent, scan channels/change freqs/check 3IM app, listen to 6 tracks, record 2 mixes, jam a digital slate, provide hops, provide IFB, provide lock-its, wield a boom, and run around around all day carrying the shit? >> is absolutely insane!
Oh and lets not forget; "We have a special guest talent (a relative), please wire her up right away, we don't have much time to grab this". Crap, which mic do I pull, who's closest? Oh shit, she's wearing a strapless Taffeta/Crepe number, and its see-thru! Hmm, who has the B6? Is that the one wired for the Zax, or the Lectro? Where is the white leg strap? Huh, we're using C cam? Did they turn off the Lock-It when they did 'B'Roll? Does that cam have the StarLink or the Terradek? What day was that? Oh we're using new media for this, sure gimme a sec to re-format. Dammit did I change the batteries in the that transmitter? Oh wait, remember to check the NP-1. Shit did I change the mirror track? What, you need another IFB for her husband?
Yet we do it. And how? You "non-sound" people haven't got a clue. Firstly we dont record "sounds". We record "primary dialog". Next we dont "listen" to what is being said. Afterall we only have 2 ears, right? Just try to separate your ears to discern 2 different sources, let alone which mic you just heard that scratchiness on? Was it a loose mic, or a ponytail suddenly on the wrong side, or a nylon vest, cell phone? Was that talent even on camera? Do you have any idea the level of concentration required? Its a mindfuck!
Of course we "hear" that things are being said, but we are "listening" for something that doesn't "belong". Then our experience and knowledge kick in to an efficient resolution. Which can be most difficult without an assistant - A TRAINED ASSISTANT.
We work miracles, by ourselves, everyday, around the world. We save your asses. We make your production work, we fix your edits, we solve issues each shoot that you dont even "hear" about. Pun intended.
We certainly deserve double what we are offered, for that which you so easily take for granted (heck, 6 wireless alone are $600/day = $60/hr)….and gives us a headache at the end of each day. -
13 hours ago, Kisaha said:
Sennheiser is offering Ambeo for a couple of years now. It is in my buying list for 2020!
Buy it in 2018!! By getting the Rode NT-SF1 instead for a fraction of the cost.
Although the support Zoom (and soon in the future MixPre series as well) has for the AMBEO B format means I wonder if the extra cost makes it worth it.
Oh hey, there is a secondhand one up for sale:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sennheiser-AMBEO-VR-MIC-Microphone-3D-AUDIO-capture/18317295831111 hours ago, kye said:@IronFilm You are right about one mic placed in the scene being superior. I believe this will change, but not for a long time (as you say, maybe decades - when I said 'tomorrow' I wasn't meaning in 24 hours time, obviously).
Ah good, we're on the same page in that regards then. As without that qualifier of it being "decades away" (and heck, who knows what might be happening then... movies as we know it might be dead! Everything tapped straight into our brain stem instead) then a person viewing this thread could easily get the wrong impression that this is relevant to something today.11 hours ago, kye said:One of the early adopter markets will be 360 degree filming.
In narrative work, where every shot is carefully setup and people can be positioned offscreen then it makes sense to have a boom operator and a shotgun microphone.
Even (or especially?) with 360 degree filmmaking you are carefully setting up and thinking about each shot.
I worked on a 360VR shoot last month (doing sound for the crew, using an ambisonic mic) and each and every shot was carefully done, is why we did nearly a whole week of filming with full days.11 hours ago, kye said:One of the challenges of these forums is that people are coming at film-making with such different perspectives that people get confused about what people are saying. I speak from the perspective of an amateur guerrilla run-and-gun film-maker who passively captures what occurs, rather than shaping what happens. I realise that I am by far the minority on here, but to compensate, I do try and be really obvious about where I'm coming from. I apologise if that wasn't obvious enough.
I think for your needs of run-and-gun with no crew, then you'd be better off chucking a lav on each person then crossing your fingers as you pray and hope for the best, than to use an ambisonic mic (where would you place it?! On top of your camera?!).11 hours ago, kye said:Actually what I want is to go to the zoo and have the whole thing recorded with a minimum of equipment getting in the way of the experience. To me, a 360 degree camera and a 360 degree microphone sounds like the perfect setup actually. However, the tech isn't there yet, and won't be for some time. As we've discussed, it needs 8K 360 cameras at least
For what delivery medium? For 360VR delivery? Or conventional HD (or 4K) 16:9? (or 2.35 aspect ratio or whatever)
10 hours ago, Kisaha said:No! Excuse ME if I sounded too aggressive. I am always trying to help.
Are you a teeny bit part Canadian?
RED delays in 2018: "Late and better is better than just late."
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I think the extreme hatred/skepticism/negativity towards RED in the early days caused them to close ranks, and those effects still linger in their culture to today.