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11 hours ago, DBounce said:
I guess my point is there are larger bodies out there with smaller sensor if we are talking "video".
Look at any ENG camera from the last few decades.
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20 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:
Nokia was a top brand, especially in Europe. It didn't quite have the same mass following here in the states, that went to Apple and Samsung, but those of us that knew about phones and the cameras on them knew the Nokias blew everything out of the water in spades in that regard. The megapixel count on these devices were insane.
Think of pre-iPhone days, Apple didn't exist as a player in the cellphone market. Back then even in the USA you had Nokia as one of the major market leaders.20 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:But bless Panasonic for trying...
This in a phone, not a point and shoot.
A friend of mine has the Panasonic CM1! I've been tempted a few times myself to buy one.
Wish 1" sensors with a prime lens were more common in smartphones.
Heck, I wish I could buy a point & shoot with a 1" sensor with a prime lens!! But such a camera doesn't exist. -
20 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:
Interesting point there. That would certainly bring down the price too.
If you do buy a mid range f2.8 zoom and don't get the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8, then don't rob yourself completely of a super lowlight fast option! Get one or two primes on the cheap to help yourself out in a pinch.
50mm f1.8 lenses are always dirt dirt cheap, so get that at least. Although a fast 35mm or 24mm is likely more useful in my opinion if you only have one.
Anyone can have this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1158443-REG/yongnuo_yn35mm_f2_yn_35mm_f_2_lens.html Better than nothing in an emergency.
Or other options:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rokinon-Samyang-Canon-EF-24mm-f-1-4-Aspherical-ED-UMC-Lens-For-Canon/282813284219
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Excellent-Sigma-AF-24mm-f1-8-EX-DG-Macro-Lens-24-1-8-Canon-EF/272788802326 -
10 hours ago, maxmizer said:
My personal opinion: It does not seem so cheap to be 1.86 m4/3 crop!!!
https://www.apple.com/us_smb_78313/shop/product/HK8Q2ZM/A/red-raven-camera-kit-final-cut-pro-x
Is this cheap?!
And x1.86 isn't so drastically far off from S35, especially not if used with the KineEnhancer: -
8 hours ago, Nathan Gabriel said:
I seem to remember a mft mount jvc camera with a super35 sensor, but I could be wrong.
JVC LS300:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1096581-REG/jvc_gy_ls300_4kcam_handheld_s35mm.html -
13 hours ago, fuzzynormal said:
I will eventually, but they just got the cams a few days before this particular volunteer project --and for talking head stuff it was fine as is.
What hack will you use?13 hours ago, fuzzynormal said:I mean, that's a $90 camera getting that shot. Not bad.
The value for money is off the charts!!!
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20 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:
You can't sell a smartphone these days without 4k, let alone a product with the word cinema in it costing many dollars more. As soon as smartphones starting gaining 4k capabilities 1080 became old news as far as consumer perception.
The new buzzword will be 8k soon. This is not a good trend, as most cinemas are still running 2k projectors and 4k televisions are still not widespread yet.
Yes, the day the average high end smartphone has 8K will be pretty dreadful.
As 4K really should at least have another 10 year life span as a delivery format.A Sony F3 is seen by many as "not current" because it lacks 4K (even though the frequency is high I'm on shoots with a hired FS7 but they're just recording in 1080/2K!). Would be terrible to buy a F5 with 4K that then quickly becomes just as "outdated" as a F3
20 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:We don't need more resolution, we need more dynamic range, cleaner sensors, and smaller acquisition and distribution footprints. Resolution is already at the tip between quality and diminishing return, there are other factors to innovate upon.
Exactly.
We also need better functionality / ergonomics with our cameras too.
Was very pleased to see the GH5 have a full size HDMI port, that is an important development. Likewise the Panasonic DMW-XLR1 was a *MASSIVE* improvement over the YAGH
And now the GH5S has a timecode input.
Those developments are just as important as higher frame rates / better codecs / etc!Am hoping the next generation will see built in ND filters like the AF100 / LS300 have (or maybe even eND). And a movable EVF, like on the GX8. Perhaps an additional SDI connection too? To have all this packed into a body the size of a large DSLR would be phenomenal.
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1 hour ago, Tim Sewell said:
I think PB has a Kinefinity (can't remember which one) on test at the moment - from his comments on Instagram he seems to quite like it.
It is the Kinefinity Terra 4K that he has.39 minutes ago, zerocool22 said:+ When I am tired of that camera and I want to sell it. There is not a big usergroup looking for the kinefinity camera's, so thats also something I always consider.
A chicken and egg problem.
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1 hour ago, Mattias Burling said:
Im just going by holding both cameras with minimal setup for basic shooting. Camera, lens, monitor, evf, battery.
With those components the Sony was so heavy that anything more than a few minutes was an absolute no go.
Well you could use exactly the same lens / monitor / battery / etc on either a RED ONE or the Sony F5, thus it would be down to the rig's choice of gear not the camera body which makes it so heavy.1 hour ago, Robert Collins said:I seriously doubt it. The multi-aspect sensor is how the pixels are distributed and not the physical size of the sensor. The GH1 had a multi-aspect sensor and it had exactly the same size sensor as all the other M43 cameras. It was sporting an extra 100,000 pixels though.
Multi-aspect means they use a large proportion of the sensor.
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They use a Varicam? (S35 or LT?)
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35 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:
They only need one camera.
That is a very very slow process. Canon sends out many multiple cameras at once. And Canon would have employed people who manage this. (plus for people like Casey I bet they pay him handsomely as well)
But yes I agree, Kinefinity should take their marketing more seriously and send out loaner cameras. They're starting that though, as Philip Bloom has one (and didn't Andrew Reid have one for a little while years ago?). -
29 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:
It wasn't any 2.2kg thats for sure. More like 15 kg with the ENG lens, monitor, etc.
I'm stating the quoted manufacturer specs for each for the body only weight (as of course it is meaningless to give a rigged up weight, as it can vary so much from one person to the next!) -
1 hour ago, Mattias Burling said:
Or save some money and weight by getting the lighter Red One MX. Gives you recode as well
In all seriousness. The F5 is cool and all but man is it a heavy beast, R1MX heavy. The reality show about the company I work for was shot on it and I asked to try it out without the easy rig... wow.
The F5 is heavy, but not as heavy as a RED ONE!
2.2 kg vs 4.5kg
That isn't even close.
But of course it all depends on how the final rig is set up.
But certainly if I owned either then I'd invest in an easyrig. -
On 1/28/2018 at 7:04 AM, fuzzynormal said:
It's an unhacked GH1.
Why not hack it?! -
From the Kinefinity Facebook group (yes, his name is "Ari Rothschild"!):
https://www.facebook.com/groups/kinefinity/permalink/1415470078563042/
QuoteThis is a rough cut of a quick exposure, color, rolling shutter, and resolution test for Arri Alexa mini, Red Epic Helium, Terra 6k, and Terra 4k.
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On 1/27/2018 at 9:51 AM, Raafi Rivero said:
Well, cost is a great reason to buy any comparable over any other more expensive thing. C200 wins on internal ND
No, the Canon doesn't "win".
Kinefinity with eND for the win:http://www.kinefinity.com/product-category/kine_acc-en/previous-accessories/mount-adapters/?lang=en
On 1/27/2018 at 10:26 PM, jonpais said:just maybe because bh doesn’t send loaners out to two dozen youtubers for review?
Exactly. The market budget alone of Canon is I bet massively bigger then Kinefinity's budget for everything.
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On 1/26/2018 at 7:04 PM, ntblowz said:
(so as some nz tv series, funded with millions of nz tax money ? )
Which ones? I know Shortland St is using the Varicam S35 (they don't get funding I am pretty sure? Well, many many many many years ago Shortland St got some from NZ On Air. Back in the 90's, for the first four seasons), but I can't think of any other kiwi TV series at the moment using a Varicam. -
10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:
If it's not 4k it will not compete well in a 4k buzzword market.
Yes, the BMPCC was a massive success for them, but the Micro Cinema Camera was released only a short time later, yet even though the Micro was an "improved BMPCC" it sadly hasn't got anywhere near the same traction in mind share :-( :-(
Quite sad. I reckon a notable reason why is because the Micro was still 1080, and new 1080 only cameras are going to struggle to sell.
Thus I can understand why BMD is happy to just wait it out until the right low cost 4K sensor comes along, rather than put out another 1080 camera to the market. -
9 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:
Right now I've got my eye on the Sigma Art 1.8 16-35mm. Good?
You mean the 18-35mm
This together with the Sigma 50-100mm f1.8 and the Tokina 11-20mm f2.8 will give you the "Holy Trinity" of still zooms for APS-C / S35
Do it!
Another option is one of those 16/17/18mm to 50mm f2.8 third party zooms which you can get for cheap secondhand for a few hundred dollars. Or maybe even the classic 24-70mm f2.8 from a third party manufacturer.
As while I love my 18-35mm, there are times I don't need the f1.8 as f2.8 is still plenty fast but I really appreciate that extra reach over 35mm -
On 1/25/2018 at 6:00 AM, Matthew Hartman said:
The other features dont really mean that much to me at the end of the day, or maybe I'll find use for them. Can't really say until the camera is in hand.
I think you'll find the extra buttons/switches BMD has added to the Pro to be handy in the field. Obviously not worth paying for alone by themselves, but together with the changeable mount and NDs, it is nice gravy on the top.On 1/25/2018 at 6:00 AM, Matthew Hartman said:But these cameras are not outside my budget, so why not own them and be done with this damn acquisition and unhealthy obsession already.
Don't worry, in a few short years you'll be back here asking about a different new camera that you're lusting over ;-)
On 1/25/2018 at 6:00 AM, Matthew Hartman said:Also, I definitely want to go the SSD route with the Ursa, any reccomendations?
On 1/25/2018 at 5:43 AM, Matthew Hartman said:LOL, why the hell is WalMart selling the Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k?
Seems like Walmart's website is just acting as a reseller:
"Sold & shipped by 17th St Photo Supply Inc"
Just like Amazon.com's marketplace does. -
10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:
The worst re-org I saw in my time was MS' aquisition of Nokia.
Back in the day I was a big time cellphone geek, especially keen on the best built in cameras I could get in a smartphone. Thus a big fan of Nokia. As their Nokia N82 was amazing! (for its time) And Symbian OS was pretty good too for an early smartphone. Had a Sony Ericsson K810i too before that, and a Sony Ericsson K800i before that! The Xeon flash is what really set them apart for the time if you wanted to take any snaps in lowlight conditions.
Anyway, sadly Nokia has fallen a long long way since the days it was #1 :-( Of which a big blame lies with MS
10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:They brought a lot of Nokia's employees over to the Redmond campus here in the U.S., including their families, only to let most of them go about 2 months later. I thought this an extremely immoral dick move on MS' part.
Wow! Just wow :-o Didn't know about that. Shocking -
On 1/27/2018 at 8:48 AM, Mattias Burling said:
Prices are really bananas these days. For example, I can buy a C300i with PDAF for less than a used GH5.
And a Sony F3 going for half that sometimes!!! :-o Wow
Was a little shocked to see today a Sony PMW-F5 sell for US$5.7K:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Version-UP-Sony-PMW-F5-Camcorder-4K-format-OK/122925420188
Pity I didn't have the money for it :-(On 1/27/2018 at 8:48 AM, Mattias Burling said:Prices are really bananas these days. For example, I can buy a C300i with PDAF for less than a used GH5.
Travel back and tell me that three years ago and give me a good laugh
Laugh given! :-P
On 1/27/2018 at 9:27 PM, Mattias Burling said:Remember how we used to joke about Canon actually making a great camera and forums still finding flaws. You know how many cameras today have everything we asked for two years ago and we promised that would be "it". All happy. But we then turn every single rock in search of something to be unhappy about.
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On 1/27/2018 at 3:22 AM, AaronChicago said:
Realistic next steps would be 6K (maybe 8K) up to 30fps. Internal ND. 4K 120fps. They can't really cannibalize their cinema line (EVA1, VariCam) so I highly doubt they're going to add a sensor that is better than those 2. Unless by that time their cinema cameras have all new sensors.
I'd hazard a guess that the Varicam line won't be an update before the GH line up gets their GH6.
And I'm CERTAIN the EVA1 won't before the GH6! (although if we're lucky we might see an EVA1 MFT before then? PLEASE!) -
Been so many years since the Zacuto shoot out, wish they'd do it again!
Panasonic GH5S 4K / 240fps low light monster
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Overheating as many more factors than just sensor size!
Remember it is a totally new sensor in the GH5S.
DPreview gets a lot wrong, in this case the spec sheet is being lazy. Again.